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This is exactly what I think. The play was either supposed to be a corner route where Watson had plenty of time and space to catch and easy one with no one in his vicinity really giving him a chance to score with the ball in his hands or it was meant to fade up the field and he burns the secondary for a TD. Either way its a bad throw and an incredible catch.
Yeah, my reasoning is that if the play did in fact call for him to hit Watson in stride towards the back of the endzone, then that is just such an egregious underthrow. It's not realistic that an NFL QB would mean to place the ball in the back of the endzone and be off by that much.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 15:25This is exactly what I think. The play was either supposed to be a corner route where Watson had plenty of time and space to catch and easy one with no one in his vicinity really giving him a chance to score with the ball in his hands or it was meant to fade up the field and he burns the secondary for a TD. Either way its a bad throw and an incredible catch.
My thoughts as well. If the play was truly to be to the sideline why so much air on the ball?Papa John wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 15:40Yeah, my reasoning is that if the play did in fact call for him to hit Watson in stride towards the back of the endzone, then that is just such an egregious underthrow. It's not realistic that an NFL QB would mean to place the ball in the back of the endzone and be off by that much.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 15:25This is exactly what I think. The play was either supposed to be a corner route where Watson had plenty of time and space to catch and easy one with no one in his vicinity really giving him a chance to score with the ball in his hands or it was meant to fade up the field and he burns the secondary for a TD. Either way its a bad throw and an incredible catch.
Just FYI, I believe you 2 are talking about separate plays.Papa John wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 15:40Yeah, my reasoning is that if the play did in fact call for him to hit Watson in stride towards the back of the endzone, then that is just such an egregious underthrow. It's not realistic that an NFL QB would mean to place the ball in the back of the endzone and be off by that much.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 15:25This is exactly what I think. The play was either supposed to be a corner route where Watson had plenty of time and space to catch and easy one with no one in his vicinity really giving him a chance to score with the ball in his hands or it was meant to fade up the field and he burns the secondary for a TD. Either way its a bad throw and an incredible catch.
Yoop, this is merely a matter of semantics. What you believe guiding means is different from what I think of it meaning. Back when I coached HS football we referred to players trying to throw a football like a dart, as guiding the ball. Guiding ends up with inaccurate placement of the football. We would tell the players to THROW the ball, to use their normal motion and trust their ability. Players try to guide it, when they don't trust or believe in themselves. But it appears that you are hung up on different definitions.Yoop wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 14:22sorry Willie the word guiding is just another term for aiming to me, I don't see Love doing anything differently from one throw to the next other then that side arm throw he's imo quite good at, I've rewatched most games and unless I've missed one of these poor tech pitches I haven't seen what your describingwilliewasgreat wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 13:57Yoop, placing the ball is another way to say he is guiding the passes instead of just throwing them. That's what I think he is trying to say. This is also an issue with pitchers in baseball. You have to just let go and throw. Placing or guiding usually comes from lack of confidence and not trusting yourself.
we all know well that Loves confidence has been tested, he's had almost no help this year from anyone, is that affecting his ball placement, are his pass short because he's timid and unsure of where to throw the ball.
there are so many questions concerning everything about Love,
again thanks for explaining this Willie, I understand what your saying, but again, I must be missing these dart type throws that your referring to, I know what a dart type release looks like with lack of follow through, just fail to remember seeing it with Love.williewasgreat wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 16:51Yoop, this is merely a matter of semantics. What you believe guiding means is different from what I think of it meaning. Back when I coached HS football we referred to players trying to throw a football like a dart, as guiding the ball. Guiding ends up with inaccurate placement of the football. We would tell the players to THROW the ball, to use their normal motion and trust their ability. Players try to guide it, when they don't trust or believe in themselves. But it appears that you are hung up on different definitions.Yoop wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 14:22sorry Willie the word guiding is just another term for aiming to me, I don't see Love doing anything differently from one throw to the next other then that side arm throw he's imo quite good at, I've rewatched most games and unless I've missed one of these poor tech pitches I haven't seen what your describingwilliewasgreat wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 13:57
Yoop, placing the ball is another way to say he is guiding the passes instead of just throwing them. That's what I think he is trying to say. This is also an issue with pitchers in baseball. You have to just let go and throw. Placing or guiding usually comes from lack of confidence and not trusting yourself.
we all know well that Loves confidence has been tested, he's had almost no help this year from anyone, is that affecting his ball placement, are his pass short because he's timid and unsure of where to throw the ball.
there are so many questions concerning everything about Love,
The one Watson had to bail him out on down the field was another poorly underthrown ball.
On review it wasnt an overthrow.
At least now I understand where you get your tendency to grossly overstate things from...lupedafiasco wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023 07:45
Starts at 55:33.
On review it wasnt an overthrow. Its just an absolutely atrocious pass.
Did you think it was a good pass?APB wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023 11:01At least now I understand where you get your tendency to grossly overstate things from...lupedafiasco wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023 07:45
Starts at 55:33.
On review it wasnt an overthrow. Its just an absolutely atrocious pass.
Mike Wahle's take on the blocking on that play (autoplays at 40:05)
No, and I never said it was. You're now moving the goal post from your insistence on it being an underthrown pass. Back it up, Ter...lupedafiasco wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023 11:10Did you think it was a good pass?APB wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023 11:01At least now I understand where you get your tendency to grossly overstate things from...lupedafiasco wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023 07:45
Starts at 55:33.
On review it wasnt an overthrow. Its just an absolutely atrocious pass.
