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Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 12:30
by BF004
NCF wrote: ↑04 May 2020 12:15
I have seen this mentioned several times now and kept thinking, why would anyone want a facemask... (as in, equipment that goes with the helmet)?
Thought pretty much the same thing.
I mean, it might be kind of cool for some people. But when you ship out 100k for free and also sell them, kind of loses its novelty.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 12:36
by Pugger
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑24 Apr 2020 11:57
Drj820 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2020 11:45
Here is some context:
other contenders: had fewer needs than the packers, reloaded, got better.
Packers: had large needs, drafted a player we hope doesn’t play for three seasons.
Why do you think other contenders had fewer needs?
As I mentioned, after trading away Buckner and letting Sanders walk, the 49ers had needs there. The Saints need a #2 WR just as badly, if not more so, than we do; and their defense has more holes than ours. The Cowboys and Eagles have plenty of needs and t's kind of you to even call them contenders. The Vikings have, thus far, only replaced the players they lost. Further, not every draft pick works.
I don't like the pick, either. I think it is a year or two too early to draft the heir apparent. I think trading up and losing a 4th in a deep draft at need positions was a mistake. I, in fact, called it "unforgiveable."
But acting as if all the other teams are getting loads better while we aren't is an overreaction. Like, I'm sorry, but a rookie C is not putting the Saints over the top; that's just ridiculous. Justin Jefferson is in no way assured to be able to replace Diggs' production--he's probably a downgrade at least in the short term. Brandon Ayiuk, as we all mentioned here, is a great fit for the offenses we and the 49ers run, but is also a very raw route runner despite being a senior rather than an early-entrant.
At 26, Queen was the only player left on my board that I wanted in the first round. It was a very bad board for us after the early-mid twenties. Had we stayed put, Queen would have been gone, too. And Gutey said the trade down options were not very appealing. To evidence that, we got a bargain on the trade to move up; trade charts that were accurate on other first-round trades had us needing to give a 3 and take back a 5, or to give a 4 and a 5. Teams moving down struggled to find partners.
So we were sitting at the end of round one with fairly few options. Let's see if we get a starting WR and a starting-caliber developmental OT, and a guy who can compete for time at ILB by the end of the next couple rounds. I've been saying all offseason the rookie impact from this class was going to be very limited by the fact that we really only have an opening at WR and MLF tends to prefer rookies to develop on the bench or in part time roles.
I think Gute did the prudent thing by signing Wagner when Bulaga left. Wagner isn't Bulaga but he isn't terrible either. If Kirksey can stay healthy he is an upgrade over Martinez IMO. And if Fuchness can return to his Carolina Panther form we have a nice vet WR to compliment Adams. The ILB and WR do have health question marks but we know they can play and produce at this level. Who knows with any of these rookies.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 13:27
by NCF
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:06
by BF004
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:12
by Packfntk
Plus the cap will rise about 13-15M.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:14
by Packfntk
Wait, what is different?
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https://overthecap.com/calculator/green-bay-packers/
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:15
by Pckfn23
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/cap/2021/#
Code: Select all
2021 Cap Totals
CAP TYPE CAP TOTAL
2021 NFL Salary Cap $209,000,000
2020 Rollover Cap $0
Adjustment $0
Adjusted Salary Cap $209,000,000
All Contracts $175,073,416
Top 51 Contracts $175,073,416
Total (All) $175,073,416
Total (w/Top 51) $175,073,416
Cap Space (w/All) $33,926,584
Cap Space (w/Top 51) $33,926,584
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:16
by Packfntk
Sportrac has more than that as well:
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/cap/2021/
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:18
by Pckfn23
He had a steady salary cap from 2020 to 2021. Plus the $7.5 million they inexplicably put down for in season transactions. And the $184 million for current contracts in 2021 seems off.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:23
by Packfntk
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:18
He had a steady salary cap from 2020 to 2021. Plus the $7.5 million they inexplicably put does for in season transactions. And the $184 million for current contracts in 2021 seems off.
Yeah, that guy does not make sense.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:23
by BF004
Packfntk wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:12
Plus the cap will rise about 13-15M.
Will it?
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 04 May 2020 16:28
by Packfntk
BF004 wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:23
Packfntk wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:12
Plus the cap will rise about 13-15M.
Will it?
At least 10, I figure it to be higher this next year because TV revenues. Raises per year:
2013-2014- 10M
2014-2015- 10.28M
2015-2016- 11.99M
2016-2017- 11.73M
2017-2018- 10.2M
2018-2019- 11M
2019-2020- 10M
With the new CBA, it will rise.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 05 May 2020 14:20
by TheSkeptic
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 05 May 2020 14:42
by Drj820
Packfntk wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:28
BF004 wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:23
Packfntk wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:12
Plus the cap will rise about 13-15M.
Will it?
At least 10, I figure it to be higher this next year because TV revenues. Raises per year:
2013-2014- 10M
2014-2015- 10.28M
2015-2016- 11.99M
2016-2017- 11.73M
2017-2018- 10.2M
2018-2019- 11M
2019-2020- 10M
With the new CBA, it will rise.
it wont rise as much as you think, if at all, if the nfl doesnt get revenue from fans in the stands, or half its fans are unemployed next season.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 06 May 2020 08:33
by BF004
Packfntk wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:28
BF004 wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:23
Packfntk wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:12
Plus the cap will rise about 13-15M.
Will it?
At least 10, I figure it to be higher this next year because TV revenues. Raises per year:
2013-2014- 10M
2014-2015- 10.28M
2015-2016- 11.99M
2016-2017- 11.73M
2017-2018- 10.2M
2018-2019- 11M
2019-2020- 10M
With the new CBA, it will rise.
I guess I may be not as confident as you that trend will keep going next year.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 06 May 2020 12:44
by NCF
This is cool.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 06 May 2020 12:52
by YoHoChecko
This is cool because of what it is....
...but also because our WR coach is a young nobody and I'm stoked to have Martin in there helping him out.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 06 May 2020 17:46
by Turk's B.B.C.
Interesting to see Ruvell is a Saginaw Valley State alumnus, as was a seventh-round WR a few seasons later...
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 06 May 2020 19:46
by Turk's B.B.C.
...and MLF was Martin's QB at college?
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 06 May 2020 21:03
by go pak go
BF004 wrote: ↑06 May 2020 08:33
Packfntk wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:28
BF004 wrote: ↑04 May 2020 16:23
Will it?
At least 10, I figure it to be higher this next year because TV revenues. Raises per year:
2013-2014- 10M
2014-2015- 10.28M
2015-2016- 11.99M
2016-2017- 11.73M
2017-2018- 10.2M
2018-2019- 11M
2019-2020- 10M
With the new CBA, it will rise.
I guess I may be not as confident as you that trend will keep going next year.
I'm just hoping it doesn't fall honestly.