Packers Huddle

BSA wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2020 21:58

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2020 21:40

Green Bay is 22nd in yards/punt in games outdoors with temps 40 or below, since 2018.

I don't know the methodology they use to arrive at those numbers, but sometimes its a function of the offense moving the ball and the punter is going for placement vs distance. Crappy offenses punt from their own 20, better offenses punt from midfield.
You'd like to be at least average outdoors

Cdragon wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:06

BSA wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2020 21:58

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2020 21:40

Green Bay is 22nd in yards/punt in games outdoors with temps 40 or below, since 2018.

I don't know the methodology they use to arrive at those numbers, but sometimes its a function of the offense moving the ball and the punter is going for placement vs distance. Crappy offenses punt from their own 20, better offenses punt from midfield.
You'd like to be at least average outdoors

I think we've been going for it more on 4th down in the no man's land between punt or FG shot but I also don't remember a ton of placements where we actually pin the opponant deep. I wouldn't mind seeing stats for punting from inside your own 40 by itself and with temp 40 or less and see how that stacks up

Drj820 wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:19

Cdragon wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:06

BSA wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2020 21:58

I don't know the methodology they use to arrive at those numbers, but sometimes its a function of the offense moving the ball and the punter is going for placement vs distance. Crappy offenses punt from their own 20, better offenses punt from midfield.
You'd like to be at least average outdoors

I think we've been going for it more on 4th down in the no man's land between punt or FG shot but I also don't remember a ton of placements where we actually pin the opponant deep. I wouldn't mind seeing stats for punting from inside your own 40 by itself and with temp 40 or less and see how that stacks up

I don’t know what the stats prove but my eye thinks that after about mid October Jk Scott is not worth a draft pick and a very pedestrian punter.

go pak go wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 09:23

I just don't get it.

Ever since 2005 all I hear is, "you gotta be good at special teams. We value special teams"

And yet we always suck at special teams.

BF004 wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 09:59

go pak go wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 09:23

I just don't get it.

Ever since 2005 all I hear is, "you gotta be good at special teams. We value special teams"

And yet we always suck at special teams.

I feel like we’ve been generally quite good under LaFleur.

Bad play last week, but we also had a lot of replacement coverage guys in there.

Christo wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:56

Drj820 wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:19

Cdragon wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:06

I think we've been going for it more on 4th down in the no man's land between punt or FG shot but I also don't remember a ton of placements where we actually pin the opponant deep. I wouldn't mind seeing stats for punting from inside your own 40 by itself and with temp 40 or less and see how that stacks up

I don’t know what the stats prove but my eye thinks that after about mid October Jk Scott is not worth a draft pick and a very pedestrian punter.

They really need to bring some serious competition next year for the punter job.
I'm also not all that impressed with the job Mennenga is doing.

BSA wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 10:49

from Ben Fennell- talking about Packers offense on 3rd downs

"On third-and-short situations (3 yards or fewer), the Packers have only converted 20 of 35 attempts for a 57.1-percent rate, tying them for 26th in the NFL. In 2019, Green Bay finished 26th too.

However, flip over to the pesky third-and-long situations (6 yards or more) and the Packers are the best in the league, converting 38.8 percent of those scenarios.

It’s refreshing to see an offense with confidence pick up unfavorable downs and distances, but I know LaFleur wants to be a more effective team in the short-yardage situations. The short-yardage play calling could use some creativity and/or some personnel changes down the stretch this season."

Yoop wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 11:12

Christo wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:56

Drj820 wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:19

I don’t know what the stats prove but my eye thinks that after about mid October Jk Scott is not worth a draft pick and a very pedestrian punter.

They really need to bring some serious competition next year for the punter job.
I'm also not all that impressed with the job Mennenga is doing.

he's doing a pretty good job, same with the punter, two so so punts against 40 MPH wind gusts shouldn't signal demands for a new punter, this kid has a great leg, had a 60 yarder two weeks ago, dropped another couple inside the 5 yrd line in the last month.

go pak go wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 09:23

I just don't get it.

Ever since 2005 all I hear is, "you gotta be good at special teams. We value special teams"

And yet we always suck at special teams.

BF004 wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 10:06

I think coverage is the best it has been, punting has been good, penalties seem to be way down. Crosby been lights out. ST has been a net positive more often than not.

BF004 wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 10:06

I think coverage is the best it has been, punting has been good, penalties seem to be way down. Crosby been lights out. ST has been a net positive more often than not.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

20 Nov 2020 10:20

BF004 wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 10:06

I think coverage is the best it has been, punting has been good, penalties seem to be way down. Crosby been lights out. ST has been a net positive more often than not.

I mean that punt returned sucked and Scott hasn't been the best, but otherwise we have been decent on special teams this year, especially when one considers the musical chairs that have happened due to injury. I think that specifically played a huge role in the punt return TD last week.

Christo wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 14:20

Yoop wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 11:12

Christo wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 08:56

They really need to bring some serious competition next year for the punter job.
I'm also not all that impressed with the job Mennenga is doing.

he's doing a pretty good job, same with the punter, two so so punts against 40 MPH wind gusts shouldn't signal demands for a new punter, this kid has a great leg, had a 60 yarder two weeks ago, dropped another couple inside the 5 yrd line in the last month.

At his best, he's mediocre. And after Zook, he looks " God like ". As for Scott, we've seen the past 2 winters, he really falls off. I expect more of the same.
Yes, I realize he has a great leg, pretty much every punter does. I'm not demanding he be replaced, I want better competition next Spring. If somebody beats him, so be it.

go pak go wrote: ↑

20 Nov 2020 10:23

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

20 Nov 2020 10:20

BF004 wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2020 10:06

I think coverage is the best it has been, punting has been good, penalties seem to be way down. Crosby been lights out. ST has been a net positive more often than not.

I mean that punt returned sucked and Scott hasn't been the best, but otherwise we have been decent on special teams this year, especially when one considers the musical chairs that have happened due to injury. I think that specifically played a huge role in the punt return TD last week.

We had the blocked punt too but that was due to a Practice Squad fill in as well.

Yoop wrote: ↑

20 Nov 2020 11:11

go pak go wrote: ↑

20 Nov 2020 10:23

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

20 Nov 2020 10:20

I mean that punt returned sucked and Scott hasn't been the best, but otherwise we have been decent on special teams this year, especially when one considers the musical chairs that have happened due to injury. I think that specifically played a huge role in the punt return TD last week.

We had the blocked punt too but that was due to a Practice Squad fill in as well.

pressure has been Scotts biggest obstical, it's the same as pass pressure, it gets into your head, impossible not to.
seriously don't people see this stuff? ya can't just rate football according to a stat sheet, there are reasons for good or poor stats