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Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 04:40
by texas
Drj820 wrote: ↑13 Mar 2023 21:47
It’s a good ole boy network in GB. Good ole boy Murphy promotes in house from Ted T to Gutebumkst. Then the good ole boys demand choir boys. They drop kylin hill for having personality. We have fans year after year that treats the good ole boy club like a local operation and beg for college coaches from northwestern and wisconsin to come coach in Green Bay lol. Year after year mediocre big ten guys get on our radar as fan favorites in the draft.
We need killers. We need winners. The operation needs to go global. When the tv audience goes global in January…the good ole boys melt. From the awe shucks coach, to the hippy qb, to the “good story” good ole boys scrubs like Lazard or Tonyan..you can pick whoever you want to blame and you will be right.
Packers choke when they leave Rodgers field in Chicago and play under the global bright lights of the NFL playoffs.
"Packers people" = lovable losers, which is why I've always wanted more criminals/thugs on the roster. Not too many, but more than we usually get which is zero.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 05:40
by TheSkeptic
It is water over the dam. Rodgers is gone, 1 way or another.
Love might be an average NFL QB earning an average NFL QB salary and the Packers might win a SB with him - but probably won't.
Love might be a good NFL QB earning a good NFL QB salary and the Packers might win a SB with him - but probably won't.
Love might be another MVP QB earning a MVP salary and the Packers might win a SB with him - but probably won't.
Because the QB is neither the problem nor the solution. I do not see MLF growing a pair of balls now that Rodgers is gone. I do not see the recent Packers DC's as more than journeymen. Resigning Nixon is a great move but Crosby's leg is gone and I am afraid he will be back. To win a SB, the team either needs an unusually good roster (only possible when you have an experienced QB still on his rookie salary) or unusually good coaching that uses schemes that other teams are not built to deal with. For example if the whole league uses a 3-4 DL with 2 ILB's, run a 4-2-5. For example if the entire league is passing first, run the damn rock with 2 RB's in the backfield. And unfortunately the Packers team is middle of the road that almost every other team is built to compete against.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 06:27
by RingoCStarrQB
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 05:40
It is water over the dam. Rodgers is gone, 1 way or another.
Love might be an average NFL QB earning an average NFL QB salary and the Packers might win a SB with him - but probably won't.
Love might be a good NFL QB earning a good NFL QB salary and the Packers might win a SB with him - but probably won't.
Love might be another MVP QB earning a MVP salary and the Packers might win a SB with him - but probably won't.
Because the QB is neither the problem nor the solution. I do not see MLF growing a pair of balls now that Rodgers is gone. I do not see the recent Packers DC's as more than journeymen. Resigning Nixon is a great move but Crosby's leg is gone and I am afraid he will be back. To win a SB, the team either needs an unusually good roster (only possible when you have an experienced QB still on his rookie salary) or unusually good coaching that uses schemes that other teams are not built to deal with. For example if the whole league uses a 3-4 DL with 2 ILB's, run a 4-2-5. For example if the entire league is passing first, run the damn rock with 2 RB's in the backfield. And unfortunately the Packers team is middle of the road that almost every other team is built to compete against.
And on top of all that QB discussion, the 89ers season ticket prices hover around the league average.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 07:00
by lupedafiasco
I do find it funny Packers fans hate Rodgers for not being able to make a decision but don’t chastise Gutenbumst who can’t make a decision on what QB he wants. He’s gone back and forth on what he wants between Love and Rodgers at least 3 times now.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 07:21
by Drj820
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:00
I do find it funny Packers fans hate Rodgers for not being able to make a decision but don’t chastise Gutenbumst who can’t make a decision on what QB he wants. He’s gone back and forth on what he wants between Love and Rodgers at least 3 times now.
It is amazing how few people want to hold bum bum accountable for this mess we are in. I’m looking forward to seeing how good he and Lafleur really are without Rodgers covering their sins
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 07:37
by Yoop
bud fox wrote: ↑13 Mar 2023 21:32
When the stats show Rodgers outplayed the other qb, it isn't really a debate that the Packers were the worse team.
The ineptitude of our management and coaching staff is what primarily comes up in big games.
Rodgers has won a sb as a qb. Gute as gm no. Mlf as coach no.
spot on, Rodgers isn't the main reason we lose PO games, typically the defense can't hold a lead, receivers drop passes, the OL can't block, and the horrific special teams puts us in poor field position, the 100 yards of field position equaling 7 points never applied to the GB Packers till this last season.
well Rodgers is gone now, who will be this fan ships next scape goat?
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 07:43
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:21
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:00
I do find it funny Packers fans hate Rodgers for not being able to make a decision but don’t chastise Gutenbumst who can’t make a decision on what QB he wants. He’s gone back and forth on what he wants between Love and Rodgers at least 3 times now.
It is amazing how few people want to hold bum bum accountable for this mess we are in. I’m looking forward to seeing how good he and Lafleur really are without Rodgers covering their sins
I guess I don't get that read. I know I certainly view Brian's handling of all this to be a demerit on his resume. I understand why he did what he did, but if he can't squeak out good compensation from the Jets...I will absolutely be upset at Brian.
BG's resume is in the middle of the road for me. Done some good. Done some bad. Built some great squads but also had some terrible drafts.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 07:44
by Yoop
texas wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 04:40
Drj820 wrote: ↑13 Mar 2023 21:47
It’s a good ole boy network in GB. Good ole boy Murphy promotes in house from Ted T to Gutebumkst. Then the good ole boys demand choir boys. They drop kylin hill for having personality. We have fans year after year that treats the good ole boy club like a local operation and beg for college coaches from northwestern and wisconsin to come coach in Green Bay lol. Year after year mediocre big ten guys get on our radar as fan favorites in the draft.
We need killers. We need winners. The operation needs to go global. When the tv audience goes global in January…the good ole boys melt. From the awe shucks coach, to the hippy qb, to the “good story” good ole boys scrubs like Lazard or Tonyan..you can pick whoever you want to blame and you will be right.
Packers choke when they leave Rodgers field in Chicago and play under the global bright lights of the NFL playoffs.
"Packers people" = lovable losers, which is why I've always wanted more criminals/thugs on the roster. Not too many, but more than we usually get which is zero.
hey you want thugs and losers on the roster become a fan of the Cowboys, those losers aint won a PO game since you where in grade school.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 07:50
by Acrobat
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:21
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:00
I do find it funny Packers fans hate Rodgers for not being able to make a decision but don’t chastise Gutenbumst who can’t make a decision on what QB he wants. He’s gone back and forth on what he wants between Love and Rodgers at least 3 times now.
It is amazing how few people want to hold bum bum accountable for this mess we are in. I’m looking forward to seeing how good he and Lafleur really are without Rodgers covering their sins
I don't really see how Rodgers covered any sins last year. If anything he made them worse because he ignored open WR's in favor of throwing incompletions 50 yards down the field.
We'll see how Love does, but if he actually runs the offense efficiently while making some good deep throws when the opportunity is favorable, the Packers definitely have the roster to compete.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 07:57
by APB
This conversation tangent is so helpful! I only wonder why it hasn't come up before...?
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:03
by Yoop
Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:50
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:21
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:00
I do find it funny Packers fans hate Rodgers for not being able to make a decision but don’t chastise Gutenbumst who can’t make a decision on what QB he wants. He’s gone back and forth on what he wants between Love and Rodgers at least 3 times now.
It is amazing how few people want to hold bum bum accountable for this mess we are in. I’m looking forward to seeing how good he and Lafleur really are without Rodgers covering their sins
I don't really see how Rodgers covered any sins last year. If anything he made them worse because he ignored open WR's in favor of throwing incompletions 50 yards down the field.
We'll see how Love does, but if he actually runs the offense efficiently while making some good deep throws when the opportunity is favorable, the Packers definitely have the roster to compete.
when people like you complain about Rodgers throwing deep last year, you scream ignorance, don't you realize that? when defenses continually lack respect for your ability to throw deep they concern themselves with covering all the first and second level zones, Rodgers and Lafleur where attempting to force the defense out of those coverages.
people are saying any ol &%$@ now, just mimicking whatever any ol blogger is saying, as though they know what there talking about, the offense Lafleur used last year was basically the same offense we have used since he was hired,
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:04
by Acrobat
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:03
Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:50
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:21
It is amazing how few people want to hold bum bum accountable for this mess we are in. I’m looking forward to seeing how good he and Lafleur really are without Rodgers covering their sins
I don't really see how Rodgers covered any sins last year. If anything he made them worse because he ignored open WR's in favor of throwing incompletions 50 yards down the field.
We'll see how Love does, but if he actually runs the offense efficiently while making some good deep throws when the opportunity is favorable, the Packers definitely have the roster to compete.
when people like you complain about Rodgers throwing deep last year, you scream ignorance, don't you realize that? when defenses continually lack respect for your ability to throw deep they concern themselves with covering all the first and second level zones, Rodgers and Lafleur where attempting to force the defense out of those coverages.
people are saying any ol &%$@ now, just mimicking whatever any ol blogger is saying, as though they know what there talking about, the offense Lafleur used last year was basically the same offense we have used since he was hired,
People like me?
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:05
by Acrobat
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:03
Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:50
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:21
It is amazing how few people want to hold bum bum accountable for this mess we are in. I’m looking forward to seeing how good he and Lafleur really are without Rodgers covering their sins
I don't really see how Rodgers covered any sins last year. If anything he made them worse because he ignored open WR's in favor of throwing incompletions 50 yards down the field.
We'll see how Love does, but if he actually runs the offense efficiently while making some good deep throws when the opportunity is favorable, the Packers definitely have the roster to compete.
when people like you complain about Rodgers throwing deep last year, you scream ignorance, don't you realize that? when defenses continually lack respect for your ability to throw deep they concern themselves with covering all the first and second level zones, Rodgers and Lafleur where attempting to force the defense out of those coverages.
people are saying any ol &%$@ now, just mimicking whatever any ol blogger is saying, as though they know what there talking about, the offense Lafleur used last year was basically the same offense we have used since he was hired,
What kind of evidence (documentation, interviews, etc) do you have that proves that LaFleur was trying to force the defense out of those coverages?
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:06
by Yoop
APB wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:57
This conversation tangent is so helpful! I only wonder why it hasn't come up before...?
hey we have other conversations going on in this forum, if you don't like this one, then feel free to join the others
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:06
by Acrobat
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:06
APB wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:57
This conversation tangent is so helpful! I only wonder why it hasn't come up before...?
hey we have other conversations going on in this forum, if you don't like this one, then feel free to join the others
Oh crap, you know about other conversations? Does this mean you're planning on derailing them too?
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:08
by APB
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:06
APB wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:57
This conversation tangent is so helpful! I only wonder why it hasn't come up before...?
hey we have other conversations going on in this forum, if you don't like this one, then feel free to join the others
This exact conversation has gone on in countless other threads. That's the $%@# point.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:08
by Yoop
Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:05
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:03
Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:50
I don't really see how Rodgers covered any sins last year. If anything he made them worse because he ignored open WR's in favor of throwing incompletions 50 yards down the field.
We'll see how Love does, but if he actually runs the offense efficiently while making some good deep throws when the opportunity is favorable, the Packers definitely have the roster to compete.
when people like you complain about Rodgers throwing deep last year, you scream ignorance, don't you realize that? when defenses continually lack respect for your ability to throw deep they concern themselves with covering all the first and second level zones, Rodgers and Lafleur where attempting to force the defense out of those coverages.
people are saying any ol &%$@ now, just mimicking whatever any ol blogger is saying, as though they know what there talking about, the offense Lafleur used last year was basically the same offense we have used since he was hired,
What kind of evidence (documentation, interviews, etc) do you have that proves that LaFleur was trying to force the defense out of those coverages?
17 freaking games last season, watch them with your eyes open and a clear mind, thats your problem Acrobat, unless someone writes something u can't understand what your watching,
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:11
by Acrobat
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:08
Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:05
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:03
when people like you complain about Rodgers throwing deep last year, you scream ignorance, don't you realize that? when defenses continually lack respect for your ability to throw deep they concern themselves with covering all the first and second level zones, Rodgers and Lafleur where attempting to force the defense out of those coverages.
people are saying any ol &%$@ now, just mimicking whatever any ol blogger is saying, as though they know what there talking about, the offense Lafleur used last year was basically the same offense we have used since he was hired,
What kind of evidence (documentation, interviews, etc) do you have that proves that LaFleur was trying to force the defense out of those coverages?
17 freaking games last season, watch them with your eyes open and a clear mind, thats your problem Acrobat, unless someone writes something u can't understand what your watching,
What kind of evidence (documentation, interviews, etc) do you have that proves that LaFleur was trying to force the defense out of those coverages?
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:11
by Yoop
Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:06
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:06
APB wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:57
This conversation tangent is so helpful! I only wonder why it hasn't come up before...?
hey we have other conversations going on in this forum, if you don't like this one, then feel free to join the others
Oh crap, you know about other conversations? Does this mean you're planning on derailing them too?
you've been derailing t5his one with your stupidity, can't even figure out why Rodgers was throwing deep balls, spare me your ignorance, go learn about the game of football.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 08:12
by Yoop
APB wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:08
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 08:06
APB wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 07:57
This conversation tangent is so helpful! I only wonder why it hasn't come up before...?
hey we have other conversations going on in this forum, if you don't like this one, then feel free to join the others
This exact conversation has gone on in countless other threads. That's the $%@# point.
no we don't, I just looked,