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Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 15:49
by Drj820
Lazard deal kind of **skewed considering they had to sign him to get 12. So he could sort of name his price because jets feared if they didn’t pony up, they wouldn’t get 12.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 15:52
by Scott4Pack
That’s funny stuff there! Cuz there’s an element of truth!
:-)
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 15:52
by YoHoChecko
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:49
Lazard deal kind of screwed considering they had to sign him to get 12. So he could sort of name his price because jets feared if they didn’t pony up, they wouldn’t get 12.
I mean yes but all they had to do was beat the next best offer. So it’s not skewed by much.
Jakobi Myers got a similar contract with a lifetime of 800 yard seasons. MVS got $10M/year last year. This is just the market now.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 15:53
by Scott4Pack
At this point (after Lazard signature), would we not say that it’s a done deal for 12 to NYJ? Then, why won’t they just come out and say it?
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 15:55
by BF004
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:52
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:49
Lazard deal kind of screwed considering they had to sign him to get 12. So he could sort of name his price because jets feared if they didn’t pony up, they wouldn’t get 12.
I mean yes but all they had to do was beat the next best offer. So it’s not skewed by much.
Jakobi Myers got a similar contract with a lifetime of 800 yard seasons. MVS got $10M/year last year. This is just the market now.
Yeah, don't get why that is confusing, 600-900 are quality #2 numbers. Top the market WR's getting 20-25. #2's getting in that 9-13M range.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 15:55
by Drj820
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:52
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:49
Lazard deal kind of screwed considering they had to sign him to get 12. So he could sort of name his price because jets feared if they didn’t pony up, they wouldn’t get 12.
I mean yes but all they had to do was beat the next best offer. So it’s not skewed by much.
Jakobi Myers got a similar contract with a lifetime of 800 yard seasons. MVS got $10M/year last year. This is just the market now.
I don’t disagree that it’s an average paycheck for an average reciever in a new market…but they had to beat more than the offers that were out there, but they had to pay him enough to make him say “yes” immediately..so they could continue to Rodgers.
That number could be much higher than other offers, high enough for Lazard to stop looking at what’s out there
I meant skewed not screwed btw
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 15:57
by BF004
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:53
At this point (after Lazard signature), would we not say that it’s a done deal for 12 to NYJ? Then, why won’t they just come out and say it?
Gute stiil trying to get that 3rd first rounder.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:05
by Labrev
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:36
Labrev wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:32
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 12:54
yep, just inhale this unsubstantiated manure as though it's your last meal
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
as I said, Lazard makes the most sense, course according to you and others Rodgers was being a jerk to ask for him
Nice try, but I am not falling for this.
You denied the veracity of the report that NYJ was negotiating with Lazard and acted like it was a baseless rumor, even though Rapoport has a long history of being a reliable source, and accused people who believed it of inhaling manure.
Well, Lazard signed with NY hours after the report, so it had plenty of basis.
Of course, one of your main talking-points to defend Rodgers is that big bad Gute makes him play with WRs who he doesn't want because they are bad, like Lazard who "trips over his own feet" or whatever. So you had to deny the report, because Rodgers being content with Lazard being one of his top targets totally disproves your Rodgers fan-fiction novela.
WHO'S EATING MANURE NOW?!?!?!? 
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:06
by go pak go
Labrev wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:05
Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:36
Labrev wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 15:32
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
as I said, Lazard makes the most sense, course according to you and others Rodgers was being a jerk to ask for him
Nice try, but I am not falling for this.
You denied the veracity of the report that NYJ was negotiating with Lazard and acted like it was a baseless rumor, even though Rapoport has a long history of being a reliable source, and accused people who believed it of inhaling manure.
Well, Lazard signed with NY hours after the report, so it had plenty of basis.
Of course, one of your main talking-points to defend Rodgers is that big bad Gute makes him play with WRs who he doesn't want because they are bad, like Lazard who "trips over his own feet" or whatever. So you had to deny the report, because Rodgers being content with Lazard being one of his top targets totally disproves your Rodgers fan-fiction novela.
WHO'S EATING MANURE NOW?!?!?!?
Yoop:
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:08
by YoHoChecko
I just want to know the compensation.
I could genuinely go from elated to deflated based on realistic compensation scenarios. The range of possible outcomes is so wide
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:12
by BF004
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:08
I just want to know the compensation.
I could genuinely go from elated to deflated based on realistic compensation scenarios. The range of possible outcomes is so wide
Garrett Wilson and their 4th in 2023 and 2024
for
Aaron Rodgers and our 3rd in 2023 and 2024
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:16
by go pak go
BF004 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:12
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:08
I just want to know the compensation.
I could genuinely go from elated to deflated based on realistic compensation scenarios. The range of possible outcomes is so wide
Garrett Wilson and their 4th in 2023 and 2024
for
Aaron Rodgers and our 3rd in 2023 and 2024
That would be so stupid for the Jets. You can't take away the one potential star for Rodgers.
The compensation needs to be draft picks. And I am honestly okay if we get 2024 draft picks (though I would really love pick #13)
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:16
by Yoop
Labrev wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:05
You denied the veracity of the report that NYJ was negotiating with Lazard and acted like it was a baseless rumor, even though Rapoport has a long history of being a reliable source, and accused people who believed it of inhaling manure.
NO, I denied the report that Rodgers was brokering this deal, and still do, and Rapoport is wrong just as much as he's right, just like the rest of these prognosticators, you bought it hook, line, and sinker, just as you and others here do often.
I don't like listening to second hand hear say, to often it's proven false, when the Jets say we took Rodgers advice and signed Lazard, I'am all ears
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:16
by Crazylegs Starks
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:08
I just want to know the compensation.
I could genuinely go from elated to deflated based on realistic compensation scenarios. The range of possible outcomes is so wide
Yeah, but not gonna lie, that "Rodgers for a ham sandwich" offer is looking pretty good.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:16
by YoHoChecko
BF004 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:12
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:08
I just want to know the compensation.
I could genuinely go from elated to deflated based on realistic compensation scenarios. The range of possible outcomes is so wide
Garrett Wilson and their 4th in 2023 and 2024
for
Aaron Rodgers and our 3rd in 2023 and 2024
Yeah, I said realistic. They are not trading the offensive rookie of the year after one year of rookie contract.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:23
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:16
BF004 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:12
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:08
I just want to know the compensation.
I could genuinely go from elated to deflated based on realistic compensation scenarios. The range of possible outcomes is so wide
Garrett Wilson and their 4th in 2023 and 2024
for
Aaron Rodgers and our 3rd in 2023 and 2024
That would be so stupid for the Jets. You can't take away the one potential star for Rodgers.
The compensation needs to be draft picks. And I am honestly okay if we get 2024 draft picks (though I would really love pick #13)
I'am starting to have doubts we get there slot #13 pick, and we surely wont get Garret, this drug out far to long, you should be happy the Jets didn't back out of this deal. we'd have been stuck with a QB we openly said we didn't want.
You where right, Murphy should have kept his yap shut, actually though it's possible this deal was done before he even said that, and compensation and the open Tampering date was all thats held acknowledgement up.
I expect a 2nd rounder this year and another next season contingent on AR's performance, could be a 1 next season
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:27
by BF004
Wasn't realistic.
I think 13 and 45 swap
Conditional '24 pick, between nothing and up to a 2nd, maybe structed in a way if Aaron is on roster at league new year (tomorrow, but in a year), he gets like a $20M bonus. Meaning if he is retiring, he retires before he gets that. 2nd round pick if they make SB, 3rd if playoffs, 4th if on roster, nothing if he is moved to the reserved/retire list, then we would get that pick.
Not sure how possible that is and if that can be gamed by Jets and/or Aaron, but have smarter people than me design it.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:27
by Yoop
Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:16
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 16:08
I just want to know the compensation.
I could genuinely go from elated to deflated based on realistic compensation scenarios. The range of possible outcomes is so wide
Yeah, but not gonna lie, that "Rodgers for a ham sandwich" offer is looking pretty good.
whatever gets him on a bus to NY is a win, win at this stage
the team doesn't want him back, they made that obvious, can you imagine Rodgers coming back to be Loves clip board holder for 59 mil.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:39
by go pak go
We know when the decision will be made. Rodgers gets his "Lebron James moment"
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 14 Mar 2023 16:53
by BF004
I am absolutely guessing it will be announced before then.
Remember he won’t hold hostage into FA.
FA hasn’t started yet, but does before PMS tomorrow.