Re: Post Game: THE PACKERS ARE PLAYOFF BOUND
Posted: 08 Jan 2024 22:40
I might be mistaken but if seems like kicking league wide isn't automatic as it once was.
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I might be mistaken but if seems like kicking league wide isn't automatic as it once was.
I will never stop making excuses to impatient angry fans for rookies that don't arrive ready-made. Because it's a good excuse.
When wally has just the kicker to complain about, you know it's been a good season...YoHoChecko wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 22:50I will never stop making excuses to impatient angry fans for rookies that don't arrive ready-made. Because it's a good excuse.
To me, the Giants and Bucs games eliminated him. The Texans’ Coach deserves it.Foosball wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 23:29As much as I dislike some of LaFleurs play calling where he lacks situational awareness, I do have to say Matt LaFleur deserves to win the NFL coach of the Year award.
As down and out as the team seemed earlier in the year, LaFleur dealt with a group of inexperienced players who were continually making mistakes and somehow guided them to the playoffs.
Matt deserves the award….and then he should take Jordan Love out for a steak dinner.
It didn't and Love didn't.so why did it take Lafleur half the season to add a HB or additional blocking so Love didn't see a free rusher on most drop backs?
It 100% did not take half the season to add a RB or TE to the pass blocking. Love did NOT see a free rusher on most of his drop backs... You are being ridiculous.
Rather than spend time researching and then getting nit-picked, please define 'nearly automatic'.
Let’s just say we want a kicker that hits a higher percentage of PATs and FGs than the one we got.Half Empty wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 09:13Rather than spend time researching and then getting nit-picked, please define 'nearly automatic'.
Now, that, I (and probably everyone else) can agree with.Foosball wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 09:31Let’s just say we want a kicker that hits a higher percentage of PATs and FGs than the one we got.Half Empty wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 09:13Rather than spend time researching and then getting nit-picked, please define 'nearly automatic'.
It’s gonna bite them in the @ss.
Hopefully Gutey will bring in another kicker next year for competition.
Why do I get the feeling we are inching toward theYoHoChecko wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 06:22To me, the Giants and Bucs games eliminated him. The Texans’ Coach deserves it.Foosball wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 23:29As much as I dislike some of LaFleurs play calling where he lacks situational awareness, I do have to say Matt LaFleur deserves to win the NFL coach of the Year award.
As down and out as the team seemed earlier in the year, LaFleur dealt with a group of inexperienced players who were continually making mistakes and somehow guided them to the playoffs.
Matt deserves the award….and then he should take Jordan Love out for a steak dinner.
But also, do not even start with this MLF is carried by Love idea that you’re hinting at with the steak dinner.
MLF MOLDED JORDAN LOVE. Just like he got the best out of Rodgers and revitalized his career. Just like he had Matt frickin Ryan play at an MVP-winning level. Just like he got RGIII’s play to rookie of the year level. Just like he turned around Goff from a bust to a serviceable starter.
When every QB you touch turns into the best versions of themselves, you don’t owe a steak to them when they lead your team to wins. MLF has coached two different QBs to MVPs and a third to rookie of the year. ONLY Rodgers replicated that level of play without him. And even Rodgers hadn’t shown it in years before MLF arrived.
MLF is a certified QB whisperer. One of the most coveted commodities in the NFL. Clements has a role and we appreciate him. Love, of course, plays a big role and we appreciate him.
But MLF makes QBs better; not just the other way around.
That’s why, despite some of his flaws as a coach, which exist and I don’t deny them all—I will always defend and appreciate MLF. He’s a top 5 coach right now, to me. And it all starts with getting good QB play and designing effective and efficient offenses.
The play calling is inconsistent. The time management and time out usage is subpar but not devastating or inept. His taste in defensive schemes and coaches leaves much to be desired.
But he gets the most out of his QBs, his offensive scheme puts his players in position to produce. And the team plays for him/tends to develop (and re-develop now, in phase two of his tenure) good chemistry under his leadership.
That’s a high quality NFL coach. But THIS year, he was probably a win or two sort of being coach of the year. He probably deserved it for one or two of those 13-win seasons earlier. But the narrative ALWAYS shifts credit to his QB; and I am stoked for Jordan Love, but don’t even start that. The track reached is clear. MLF deserves more credit for his QBs than his QBs deserve credit for MLF.
Given that AR DID fall and that Love required additional resources to obtain, I think even our most diehard "that's my position, don't try to sway me with the facts" posters would have a really tough time making that arguement.go pak go wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 10:01Why do I get the feeling we are inching toward theYoHoChecko wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 06:22To me, the Giants and Bucs games eliminated him. The Texans’ Coach deserves it.Foosball wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 23:29As much as I dislike some of LaFleurs play calling where he lacks situational awareness, I do have to say Matt LaFleur deserves to win the NFL coach of the Year award.
As down and out as the team seemed earlier in the year, LaFleur dealt with a group of inexperienced players who were continually making mistakes and somehow guided them to the playoffs.
Matt deserves the award….and then he should take Jordan Love out for a steak dinner.
But also, do not even start with this MLF is carried by Love idea that you’re hinting at with the steak dinner.
MLF MOLDED JORDAN LOVE. Just like he got the best out of Rodgers and revitalized his career. Just like he had Matt frickin Ryan play at an MVP-winning level. Just like he got RGIII’s play to rookie of the year level. Just like he turned around Goff from a bust to a serviceable starter.
When every QB you touch turns into the best versions of themselves, you don’t owe a steak to them when they lead your team to wins. MLF has coached two different QBs to MVPs and a third to rookie of the year. ONLY Rodgers replicated that level of play without him. And even Rodgers hadn’t shown it in years before MLF arrived.
MLF is a certified QB whisperer. One of the most coveted commodities in the NFL. Clements has a role and we appreciate him. Love, of course, plays a big role and we appreciate him.
But MLF makes QBs better; not just the other way around.
That’s why, despite some of his flaws as a coach, which exist and I don’t deny them all—I will always defend and appreciate MLF. He’s a top 5 coach right now, to me. And it all starts with getting good QB play and designing effective and efficient offenses.
The play calling is inconsistent. The time management and time out usage is subpar but not devastating or inept. His taste in defensive schemes and coaches leaves much to be desired.
But he gets the most out of his QBs, his offensive scheme puts his players in position to produce. And the team plays for him/tends to develop (and re-develop now, in phase two of his tenure) good chemistry under his leadership.
That’s a high quality NFL coach. But THIS year, he was probably a win or two sort of being coach of the year. He probably deserved it for one or two of those 13-win seasons earlier. But the narrative ALWAYS shifts credit to his QB; and I am stoked for Jordan Love, but don’t even start that. The track reached is clear. MLF deserves more credit for his QBs than his QBs deserve credit for MLF.
"Love fell in BG's and MLF's lap" just like the narrative switched to that with Rodgers to TT and MM?
Rodgers actually did drop into Teds lap, most fans thought Guty reached for Love, I know I did, and minus several years, at least 2 he may have been a bust, just like Rodgers, the tutoring imo is what made Rodgers great and hopefully Love stays as good as he has been lately.
He spent 6, that is 6, years in college wirking on his technique. His brother surely has also helped him. And he was crappy in college. It is no surprise he is crappy in the NFL.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 22:50I will never stop making excuses to impatient angry fans for rookies that don't arrive ready-made. Because it's a good excuse.
The goalposts look pretty solid to start with, but then they get moved again.Madcity_matt wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 10:11It can be true that Love both fell into our lap while still requiring a 4th to get him. If you think the value is that pronounced and it only costs a 4th to move up to grab a guy you think can be a star it's a small price to pay.