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Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 10:45
by paco
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 10:40
These Mariucci white board segments with QBs make me wildly uncomfortable for some reason.
Like on one hand, this is insight we usually don't get to see.
On the other hand, it feels so much like an old man being like "here's how it worked in my day young buck." Not in reality. Just in vibes.
Nothing wrong or upsetting or offensive about any of this. He isn't intentionally or overly condescending. But there's just something weird about "ok buddy, prove yourself to me" in the media segment versus in a real job interview
Doesn't help these QB's were 3 or 4 years old the last time Mooch coached. Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't know what he's talking about. But these kids haven't known him as anything but a tv dude. So yeah, has a weird vibe.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 10:54
by YoHoChecko
Well ESPN has Mel and Todd talking about next year's first round picks now, then transitioning to Day Three QB options, so we're not off to a great start
Like guys, Day Three QBs do not deserve outsized positional coverage. Not like the top guys. It's ok to acknowledge that this day is about filling out rosters and special teams and finding random sleepers.
I wish they brough a reaction format to these rapid fire days.
Like
1. Why were they available on Day Three?
2. What are reasons for optimism?
3. Team fit: depth chart/scheme
4. Talking head approval/disapproval of the pick/value/fit
5. Highlights if you have them or have time
6. Little life tidbits about what other sports he used to play or who his uncle is, if you have time.
It wouldn't have to be that rigidly delivered but just a guideline. "This is a guy who is still available because of his athletic profile, but his film shows some areas where he could shine if used correctly; the team he went to has a hole in that role, so he might get on the field sooner than later."
Items 1-3 are like 22 seconds of talk on a pick that gives you the bare minimum info. Then add all the filler and fluff you want. I know this is an entertainment endeavor. But just have a format to make sure we're getting the baseline understanding of who a player is on the field and how he fits. More so than what Mel Kiper thinks of the pick.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 10:55
by Yoop
paco wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 10:45
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 10:40
These Mariucci white board segments with QBs make me wildly uncomfortable for some reason.
Like on one hand, this is insight we usually don't get to see.
On the other hand, it feels so much like an old man being like "here's how it worked in my day young buck." Not in reality. Just in vibes.
Nothing wrong or upsetting or offensive about any of this. He isn't intentionally or overly condescending. But there's just something weird about "ok buddy, prove yourself to me" in the media segment versus in a real job interview
Doesn't help these QB's were 3 or 4 years old the last time Mooch coached. Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't know what he's talking about. But these kids haven't known him as anything but a tv dude. So yeah, has a weird vibe.
I watched the one with Richardson (SP) and that was so weird when he asked him to prove to me you have it, but I was impressed with how well Richardson handled it
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 10:57
by paco
Already 3 trades today!
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 10:59
by kampmanfan4life
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 10:54
Well ESPN has Mel and Todd talking about next year's first round picks now, then transitioning to Day Three QB options, so we're not off to a great start
Like guys, Day Three QBs do not deserve outsized positional coverage. Not like the top guys. It's ok to acknowledge that this day is about filling out rosters and special teams and finding random sleepers.
I wish they brough a reaction format to these rapid fire days.
Like
1. Why were they available on Day Three?
2. What are reasons for optimism?
3. Team fit: depth chart/scheme
4. Talking head approval/disapproval of the pick/value/fit
5. Highlights if you have them or have time
6. Little life tidbits about what other sports he used to play or who his uncle is, if you have time.
It wouldn't have to be that rigidly delivered but just a guideline. "This is a guy who is still available because of his athletic profile, but his film shows some areas where he could shine if used correctly; the team he went to has a hole in that role, so he might get on the field sooner than later."
Items 1-3 are like 22 seconds of talk on a pick that gives you the bare minimum info. Then add all the filler and fluff you want. I know this is an entertainment endeavor. But just have a format to make sure we're getting the baseline understanding of who a player is on the field and how he fits. More so than what Mel Kiper thinks of the pick.
Agree, you would think day 3 audience (or really any audience) for the NFL draft is pretty hard core football fans. Do we really need the Jonas Brothers, and the other dumb antics.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:01
by YoHoChecko
Bunch of teams trading up to the top of the round before picks have been made. At least 2 of the top 3 picks today have been traded. Maybe all three. Can't tell if I missed something
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:08
by YoHoChecko
paco wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 10:57
Already 3 trades today!
wild executing a trade for pick 105 without knowing who is going at 103 and 104. It feels like the kind of move you make for someone specific, but doing so without knowing, it must be for at least 2 or 3 specific guys that mark the end of team tiers and value.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:12
by YoHoChecko
I like Saldiveri; would have been a nice GB target.
Making an autistic kid try to pronounce that in front of a crowd of 70,000+ people was pretty crummy of them, though. The Saints are dicks.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:13
by lupedafiasco
Really some good value here. I think right now I would go Wypler to press Myers to stop being so awful. I really like Antonio Johnson too but as a big slot. I don’t know about him at S. I was about to say Bennett but he just got drafted. I loved him as a slot CB. I love Roschon too at RB. Could be a good replacement for Dillon.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:13
by paco
Already a few possible Packer targets off the board.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:14
by YoHoChecko
paco wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 11:13
Already a few possible Packer targets off the board.
This will happen a lot.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:15
by paco
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 11:13
Really some good value here. I think right now I would go Wypler to press Myers to stop being so awful. I really like Antonio Johnson too but as a big slot. I don’t know about him at S. I was about to say Bennett but he just got drafted. I loved him as a slot CB. I love Roschon too at RB. Could be a good replacement for Dillon.
I'm curious on Johnson as well. Didn't test well but looks like he plays better than that.
I'm not as concerned with center. I think Myers improves and we've got Hansen and Tom to possible push him (if the Packers decide to give Tom reps there).
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:16
by paco
Such an obvious pick for the Eagles, or should I say the Northeast Bulldogs.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:18
by YoHoChecko
Eagles out-Georgiaing us by a mile now
They listed Ringo as DB. Might be swapping him to safety or the CGJ role
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:18
by BF004
Eagles with the best defense in the league.
‘Do whose defensive draft strategy we should try to emulate… Green Bay’
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:18
by BF004
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:19
by lupedafiasco
I can’t find a single stream for day 3. If anyone has one send it to me please.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:21
by BF004
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 11:19
I can’t find a single stream for day 3. If anyone has one send it to me please.
Gotta a be a few guys on YouTube steaming, but won’t be the ESPN or NFLN broadcast.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:23
by lupedafiasco
BF004 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 11:21
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Apr 2023 11:19
I can’t find a single stream for day 3. If anyone has one send it to me please.
Gotta a be a few guys on YouTube steaming, but won’t be the ESPN or NFLN broadcast.
Yeah I was looking for the official ones but I finally found one I think.
Re: Day 3 Draft Discussion
Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:24
by kampmanfan4life
Found this from JSonline.
Positions selected thus far:
Center - 4
Guard - 6
Tackle - 7
DE -9
DT - 10
LB/OLB - 15
Kicker - 1
Receiver - 14
Running back - 7
Defensive back - 19
Tight end - 9
QB - 5