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Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 13 Apr 2022 13:47
by NCF
BF004 wrote:
13 Apr 2022 13:37
I would say the score is most relevant at the top of the draft, it is very highly age weighted, but we have taken a fair amount of older players later in the draft.
I always kind of took to heart that young guys have room to improve physically before they are kind of who they are. I remember [mention]Waldo[/mention] did some stuff around this when looking at EDGE guys way back when. I wonder how that truly applies, especially at WR. Do we think some of these younger guys can become faster or more agile? How much so? Or is any difference negligible and guys are pretty much what they will be, physically?

Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 13 Apr 2022 13:48
by NCF
BF004 wrote:
13 Apr 2022 13:37
I built up a metric here that will kind of combine Packer traits.

Kind of built off 40 threshold, height/weight, agility, jumping, age, and arm/hand size. Weighted as I saw fit.

I would say the score is most relevant at the top of the draft, it is very highly age weighted, but we have taken a fair amount of older players later in the draft.

But now you don't have to go check 3 cone and RAS and age every time you look at a WR prospect. :)

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PLAYER                COLLEGE        SUPER BF AWESOME SCORE
Kevin Austin          Notre Dame           2.47
Tyquan Thornton       Baylor               1.69
Alec Pierce           Cincinnati           1.62
George Pickens        Georgia              1.24
Drake London          Southern California  1.22
Christian Watson      North Dakota State   1.17
Romeo Doubs           Nevada               1.01
Jameson Williams      Alabama              0.99
Makai Polk            Mississippi State    0.9
Erik Ezukanma         Texas Tech           0.66
Garrett Wilson        Ohio State           0.65
Mike Woods            Oklahoma             0.64
Dontay Demus          Maryland             0.59
Chris Olave           Ohio State           0.57
Bo Melton             Rutgers              0.5
Devon Williams        Oregon               0.46
Skyy Moore            Western Michigan     0.44
Khalil Shakir         Boise State          0.38
Jayden Reed           Michigan State       0.36
Calvin Austin III     Memphis              0.31
Jalen Tolbert         South Alabama        0.26
Tyler Snead           East Carolina        0.25
Treylon Burks         Arkansas             0.18
John Metchie          Alabama              0.15
Kearis Jackson        Georgia              0.13
Danny Gray            Southern Methodist   0.1
Ty Fryfogle           Indiana              0.04
David Bell            Purdue               0.01
Jalen Nailor          Michigan State       -0.08
Calvin Turner         Hawaii               -0.09
Jerreth Sterns        Western Kentucky     -0.09
Braylon Sanders       Mississippi          -0.15
Emeka Emezie          North Carolina State -0.15
K.D. Nixon            Southern California  -0.32
Jahan Dotson          Penn State           -0.39
Justyn Ross           Clemson              -0.46
Charleston Rambo      Miami (FL)           -0.54
Jaquarii Roberson     Wake Forest          -0.61
Josh Johnson          Tulsa                -0.64
Wan'Dale Robinson     Kentucky             -0.67
Changa Hodge          Virginia Tech        -0.72
Stanley Berryhill III Arizona              -0.72
Tarique Milton        Iowa State           -0.83
Samori Toure          Nebraska             -0.83
Kyle Philips          UCLA                 -0.85
Johnny Johnson III    Oregon               -0.91
Jaivon Heiligh        Coastal Carolina     -0.97
Velus Jones Jr.       Tennessee            -0.98
Tay Martin            Oklahoma State       -1
Tre Turner            Virginia Tech        -1.13
Reggie Roberson Jr.   Southern Methodist   -1.36
Britain Covey         Utah                 -1.4
Slade Bolden          Alabama              -1.53
Dontario Drummond     Mississippi          -1.57
Bumping, because this is good stuff.

Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 13 Apr 2022 13:56
by BF004
NCF wrote:
13 Apr 2022 13:47
BF004 wrote:
13 Apr 2022 13:37
I would say the score is most relevant at the top of the draft, it is very highly age weighted, but we have taken a fair amount of older players later in the draft.
I always kind of took to heart that young guys have room to improve physically before they are kind of who they are. I remember @Waldo did some stuff around this when looking at EDGE guys way back when. I wonder how that truly applies, especially at WR. Do we think some of these younger guys can become faster or more agile? How much so? Or is any difference negligible and guys are pretty much what they will be, physically?
I mean that has to be true, I have been liking Drake London more and more recently.

And just as long as he doesn't jump like 31 or something, even 34 would be great, gotta figure he could be a 36-38 guy by the time he turns 23 like some of the others.

Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 13 Apr 2022 14:02
by Pckfn23
I have always read/heard that 26 is generally the peak age for athletic performance. So, I would say it is very true that there is improvement, especially for the younger guys.

Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 13 Apr 2022 14:27
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote:
13 Apr 2022 14:02
I have always read/heard that 26 is generally the peak age for athletic performance. So, I would say it is very true that there is improvement, especially for the younger guys.
that may be true physically, but there are opinions that the male brain often does not reach full maturity till about middle 30's even 40, if ya don't believe me just ask any Woman :rotf:

Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 15 Apr 2022 10:50
by Pckfn23

Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 15 Apr 2022 11:07
by YoHoChecko
[mention]Pckfn23[/mention] TWO HOURS? Dang. Did they publish a cliff's notes? :lol:

Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 18 Apr 2022 12:37
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote:
15 Apr 2022 11:07
@Pckfn23 TWO HOURS? Dang. Did they publish a cliff's notes? :lol:
It was pretty good. Both fairly lower on Drake London than the majority without dumping on him. I will say the one thing that I had not heard, at all, that scares the crap out of me is Burks showing up to Spring Practice two years in a row overweight and fighting to play at that 225 range. The last thing we need is Fat Eddie playing WR. Also helped cement who Skyy Moore is for me and that is a very low floor player without any real high end traits to ever be a dominant WR. Really in depth and a good listen, but can't say I learned a ton. I listened in the car. It's worth it if you have two hours to kill.

Re: 2022 Draft Primer, WR - Top 15

Posted: 18 Apr 2022 12:59
by Realist
NCF wrote:
18 Apr 2022 12:37
YoHoChecko wrote:
15 Apr 2022 11:07
@Pckfn23 TWO HOURS? Dang. Did they publish a cliff's notes? :lol:
It was pretty good. Both fairly lower on Drake London than the majority without dumping on him. I will say the one thing that I had not heard, at all, that scares the crap out of me is Burks showing up to Spring Practice two years in a row overweight and fighting to play at that 225 range. The last thing we need is Fat Eddie playing WR. Also helped cement who Skyy Moore is for me and that is a very low floor player without any real high end traits to ever be a dominant WR. Really in depth and a good listen, but can't say I learned a ton. I listened in the car. It's worth it if you have two hours to kill.
Drakes speed is probably the biggest concern but he also isn't close to 6'5". Not a super issue but I hate it when a prospect comes in over an inch shorter than advertised.