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Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 16:21
by Drj820
go pak go wrote:
28 Oct 2021 16:15
So here is where we stand.

We have 5 All Pro's. 4 of them are out.
Top 3 WRs are out
1 OL is in arguably the originally started position
Top 2 preseason Edge Rushers may be out
Top 2 preseason CBs may be out.

Yikes.
Good thing the cardinals are overrated

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 17:38
by williewasgreat
Drj820 wrote:
28 Oct 2021 14:45
paco wrote:
28 Oct 2021 12:27
Wuss. Rub some dirt on it and play.
Watts PR team is hilarious.
I had this injury without the labrum tear. Even after surgery my shoulder has been basically worthless. Haven't been able to throw a ball using my right arm (luckily I can throw some with my left arm) and it doesn't get above my head very well. They never reattached the bicep tendon. Now, arthritis pain is getting worse. Watt is in for a lot of pain in the future.

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 17:52
by paco

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 17:53
by paco

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 17:54
by wallyuwl
So King is injured and Smith sucks. Though they coould list King as a healthy scratch, too, because he also sucks.

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 17:54
by paco
Time for a big game Kenny!

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:04
by Drj820
I’m interested to see if we even notice Barry isn’t on the sidelines

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:05
by NCF
Oof. Jaylon Smith. If you can’t crack the 53 this week… then what are we doing here?

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:08
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote:
28 Oct 2021 16:21
go pak go wrote:
28 Oct 2021 16:15
So here is where we stand.

We have 5 All Pro's. 4 of them are out.
Top 3 WRs are out
1 OL is in arguably the originally started position
Top 2 preseason Edge Rushers may be out
Top 2 preseason CBs may be out.

Yikes.
Good thing the cardinals are overrated
This saying has always been weird to me but is especially weird here.

I don't think anyone is overrating the Cardinals. They are basically viewed with the top group of the NFC.

So who is better? TB? DAL? GB?

We already know they beat LAR so it can't beat them.

I don't think AZ is overrated. They are what they are which is a top team in the conference. Tonight that tier will simply get smaller is all.

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:18
by APB
go pak go wrote: I don't think AZ is overrated. They are what they are which is a top team in the conference. Tonight that tier will simply get smaller is all.
How will it get smaller?

Are you saying the Packers will fall from the top tier of conference teams should they lose? A temporarily injured/Covid depleted Packers team?

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:19
by German_Panzer
This feels like half of a playoff game already. Anticipation is such a great thing. And thx for the www because else we in Europe would still live in a dark age (football-wise). Go Pack Go!

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:24
by BF004
Next man up, play within the scheme, play fast, play hard, punch the in the mouth, and on D, rally to the ball.

We got this.

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:29
by Drj820
You know what would be interesting? If Jonás basically played WR all night and Dillon and hill were the RBs.

In this scenario Jones wouldn’t even be lining up in the back field much

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:35
by go pak go
APB wrote:
28 Oct 2021 18:18
go pak go wrote: I don't think AZ is overrated. They are what they are which is a top team in the conference. Tonight that tier will simply get smaller is all.
How will it get smaller?

Are you saying the Packers will fall from the top tier of conference teams should they lose? A temporarily injured/Covid depleted Packers team?
I think it would have to.

If the Packers win I think they are put as the top team.

If the Cards win, that regardless puts GB at 2 losses. So then you have 6 teams with 2 losses or better. So do you then put the top tier with 6 teams? That's a lot of teams for a top tier. And yet you can't really justify leaving anyone out if you want to keep GB in there.

I have no problem knocking GB down if they lose until they prove they deserve to be back up top again.

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:36
by Drj820
go pak go wrote:
28 Oct 2021 18:08
Drj820 wrote:
28 Oct 2021 16:21
go pak go wrote:
28 Oct 2021 16:15
So here is where we stand.

We have 5 All Pro's. 4 of them are out.
Top 3 WRs are out
1 OL is in arguably the originally started position
Top 2 preseason Edge Rushers may be out
Top 2 preseason CBs may be out.

Yikes.
Good thing the cardinals are overrated
This saying has always been weird to me but is especially weird here.

I don't think anyone is overrating the Cardinals. They are basically viewed with the top group of the NFC.

So who is better? TB? DAL? GB?

We already know they beat LAR so it can't beat them.

I don't think AZ is overrated. They are what they are which is a top team in the conference. Tonight that tier will simply get smaller is all.
You don’t put the Rams in the top group because they lost to the cards after a big win against the bucs a month into the season? I do not read so much into that game and I think the Rams can still be better come January and in terms of winning the division.

For instance the bears beat the bucs last year, I in no way think they were better than the bucs last year

If we were to lose, cards will be in the conference standings and you would have to put them ahead in a week to week power ranking, but my point is that when we play them in January I will not feel Unconfident because we lost on a Thursday night without our top 2 corners and top 3 WRs. I will feel very confident then irregardless of what happens tonight

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:45
by BF004

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:50
by APB
go pak go wrote:
28 Oct 2021 18:35
APB wrote:
28 Oct 2021 18:18
go pak go wrote: I don't think AZ is overrated. They are what they are which is a top team in the conference. Tonight that tier will simply get smaller is all.
How will it get smaller?

Are you saying the Packers will fall from the top tier of conference teams should they lose? A temporarily injured/Covid depleted Packers team?
I think it would have to.

If the Packers win I think they are put as the top team.

If the Cards win, that regardless puts GB at 2 losses. So then you have 6 teams with 2 losses or better. So do you then put the top tier with 6 teams? That's a lot of teams for a top tier. And yet you can't really justify leaving anyone out if you want to keep GB in there.

I have no problem knocking GB down if they lose until they prove they deserve to be back up top again.
From a record standpoint, sure. I see that.

But from a quality of team standpoint, I keep the Packers in that top tier even if they lose. A loss tonight with that depleted roster is to be expected. I’m not passing judgment on them simply because they were a victim of poor injury/Covid timing.

Additionally, I also don’t remove the Rams as a top NFC contender simply because they had one loss to another conference power. One game doesn’t do it for me. You didn’t apply the same rule to TB I noticed.

You’re obviously a lot harsher in your evaluations. And inconsistent.

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:52
by go pak go
I still think holding that electric Cardinals offense to 20 points after 4 quarters was the really impressive thing that night.

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:54
by go pak go
APB wrote:
28 Oct 2021 18:50
go pak go wrote:
28 Oct 2021 18:35
APB wrote:
28 Oct 2021 18:18


How will it get smaller?

Are you saying the Packers will fall from the top tier of conference teams should they lose? A temporarily injured/Covid depleted Packers team?
I think it would have to.

If the Packers win I think they are put as the top team.

If the Cards win, that regardless puts GB at 2 losses. So then you have 6 teams with 2 losses or better. So do you then put the top tier with 6 teams? That's a lot of teams for a top tier. And yet you can't really justify leaving anyone out if you want to keep GB in there.

I have no problem knocking GB down if they lose until they prove they deserve to be back up top again.
From a record standpoint, sure. I see that.

But from a quality of team standpoint, I keep the Packers in that top tier even if they lose. A loss tonight with that depleted roster is to be expected. I’m not passing judgment on them simply because they were a victim of poor injury/Covid timing.

Additionally, I also don’t remove the Rams as a top NFC contender simply because they had one loss to another conference power. One game doesn’t do it for me. You’re obviously a lot harsher in your evaluations.
Okay. 6 teams then top tier if the Packers lose.

I wouldn't say I'm harsh. I am just fine not calling us the best until we prove it. Rankings this time of year is meaningless anyways.

Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST

Posted: 28 Oct 2021 18:58
by BF004
So Cobb, Winfree, Eq, Taylor and Rodgers today….