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Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 18 Oct 2023 20:44
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 16:29
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 14:57
Drj820 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2023 12:02
Jared Goff went to the Super Bowl with the Rams
Correct. But he's actually playing better ball (if even only because of consistency) with the Lions.
When the Rams traded him, they made it seem like he was trash. They treated him like trash. But the truth is that they just really wanted Stafford, or thought Stafford could get them over the hump that Goff could not. And thanks to a miracle down in Tampa, they were actually right.
But Goffs actual play was just fine in LA. He was having an above average---but not elite, career.
Just look at the stats. He has always been better than his reputation. And he has won tons of games, in both places.
2017-Yards: 3804, TDs: 28, INTs: 5
2018-Yards: 4688, TDs: 32, INTs: 12
2019: Yards: 4638, TDs: 22, INTs: 16 (i admit, thats way too many INTs)
2020: Yards: 3952, TDs: 20, INTs: 13
Goff threw too many picks sure, but he has always been able to sling it. Goff has always been better than advertised.
Yeah. People like this always gave Goff a bad wrap and underestimated his abilities.
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Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 18 Oct 2023 20:56
by Drj820
go pak go wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 20:44
Drj820 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 16:29
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 14:57
Correct. But he's actually playing better ball (if even only because of consistency) with the Lions.
When the Rams traded him, they made it seem like he was trash. They treated him like trash. But the truth is that they just really wanted Stafford, or thought Stafford could get them over the hump that Goff could not. And thanks to a miracle down in Tampa, they were actually right.
But Goffs actual play was just fine in LA. He was having an above average---but not elite, career.
Just look at the stats. He has always been better than his reputation. And he has won tons of games, in both places.
2017-Yards: 3804, TDs: 28, INTs: 5
2018-Yards: 4688, TDs: 32, INTs: 12
2019: Yards: 4638, TDs: 22, INTs: 16 (i admit, thats way too many INTs)
2020: Yards: 3952, TDs: 20, INTs: 13
Goff threw too many picks sure, but he has always been able to sling it. Goff has always been better than advertised.
Yeah. People like this always gave Goff a bad wrap and underestimated his abilities.
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Something interesting about me is I have the ability to update my perception of people and mental models based on new information
Gotta admit tho I nailed it about stafford..offense looked so great they won the SB. Props to me for that great take.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 18 Oct 2023 21:35
by RingoCStarrQB
Tonight on TV with Larry McC and LaCoach, LaCoach spewed the need for "complementary football" with respect to a balanced running and passing game on offense. Before he spewed complementary football between the offense and defense. He doesn't talk about Special Teams lately.
LaCoach still lacks fire IMO.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 18 Oct 2023 23:43
by APB
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 03:23
by CWIMM
Pugger wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 13:21
I hope he has something left in the tank. Was he a FA?
Yes, Robinson signed a two-year deal with the Patriots in March but was released by them in June. The Giants picked him up in July but moved on from him after camp. He was a free agent since that point.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 06:59
by TheSkeptic
CWIMM wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 03:23
Pugger wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 13:21
I hope he has something left in the tank. Was he a FA?
Yes, Robinson signed a two-year deal with the Patriots in March but was released by them in June. The Giants picked him up in July but moved on from him after camp. He was a free agent since that point.
He is only 25 years old
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 07:40
by Yoop
everyone kicking the tires, no one buying the car, why?
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 08:58
by go pak go
Yoop wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 07:40
everyone kicking the tires, no one buying the car, why?
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 10:32
by lupedafiasco
go pak go wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 08:58
Yoop wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 07:40
everyone kicking the tires, no one buying the car, why?
Bad pits?
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 11:33
by RingoCStarrQB
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 21:35
Tonight on TV with Larry McC and LaCoach, LaCoach spewed the need for "complementary football" with respect to a balanced running and passing game on offense. Before he spewed complementary football between the offense and defense. He doesn't talk about Special Teams lately.
LaCoach still lacks fire IMO.
His spewing has evolved into platitudes. Platitudes that are not believed nor appreciated by educated Packers fans and players. Including former players. It's basically become a shoot show from the TV studio. I'd rather watch Ariens snowblower commercials than hear his spewing.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 12:15
by go pak go
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 10:32
go pak go wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 08:58
Yoop wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 07:40
everyone kicking the tires, no one buying the car, why?
Bad pits?
Achilles
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 12:41
by APB
As much as I appreciate Nixon's aggressiveness, right now he and the return unit(s) are costing the team.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 12:46
by Yoop
to go with the Achilles, I also reading theres questions concerning the knee's, I thought he had healed from those leg issues because he played some last year, I actually figured he was showing some attitude adjustment issues or something along with that.
I don't have high expectations, I was hoping another guy named Taylor would fill that position, alas we are to poor for him
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 12:56
by BSA
Yoop wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 12:46
alas we are to poor for him
Colts wanted too much ...as noted by 30 other teams taking a pass as well.
Jonathan Taylor's new salary wasn't the issue - the requested draft picks were.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 12:56
by Yoop
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 11:33
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 21:35
Tonight on TV with Larry McC and LaCoach, LaCoach spewed the need for "complementary football" with respect to a balanced running and passing game on offense. Before he spewed complementary football between the offense and defense. He doesn't talk about Special Teams lately.
LaCoach still lacks fire IMO.
His spewing has evolved into platitudes. Platitudes that are not believed nor appreciated by educated Packers fans and players. Including former players. It's basically become a shoot show from the TV studio. I'd rather watch Ariens snowblower commercials that hear his spewing.
no quarter, I get that, but with simple visual one can easily see his problems, poor OL blocking in both phases, and receivers who still lack the ability to win leverage when running there routes, I know, you know, just how important that is Ringo, so why you wont consider that when evaluating Matt, who knows.
I loved what he brought to the Packers in 2019, and imo nothing he did led to the decline we saw last year or even this season, He's a low key X's and O's coach
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 13:05
by Yoop
BSA wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 12:56
Yoop wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 12:46
alas we are to poor for him
Colts wanted too much ...as noted by 30 other teams taking a pass as well.
Jonathan Taylor's new salary wasn't the issue - the requested draft picks were.
don't remember what they wanted, I expect it was a first, maybe more, you know me, I'am always in the buying mood
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 21:01
by RingoCStarrQB
Yoop wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 12:56
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 11:33
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 21:35
Tonight on TV with Larry McC and LaCoach, LaCoach spewed the need for "complementary football" with respect to a balanced running and passing game on offense. Before he spewed complementary football between the offense and defense. He doesn't talk about Special Teams lately.
LaCoach still lacks fire IMO.
His spewing has evolved into platitudes. Platitudes that are not believed nor appreciated by educated Packers fans and players. Including former players. It's basically become a shoot show from the TV studio. I'd rather watch Ariens snowblower commercials that hear his spewing.
no quarter, I get that, but with simple visual one can easily see his problems, poor OL blocking in both phases, and receivers who still lack the ability to win leverage when running there routes, I know, you know, just how important that is Ringo, so why you wont consider that when evaluating Matt, who knows.
I loved what he brought to the Packers in 2019, and imo nothing he did led to the decline we saw last year or even this season, He's a low key X's and O's coach
Point well taken Yoop. Sure LaCoach has sub par talent playing on offense now. But that doesn't relieve him of his inconsistencies and platitudes.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 21 Oct 2023 12:54
by BSA
Bill Huber with an article on the return of Eric Stokes, activated today
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/pac ... vs-broncos
"Close to one year after suffering a season-ending foot injury at Detroit, Green Bay Packers cornerback Eric Stokes will be activated for Sunday's game at the Denver Broncos"
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 21 Oct 2023 16:02
by RingoCStarrQB
BSA wrote: ↑21 Oct 2023 12:54
Bill Huber with an article on the return of Eric Stokes, activated today
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/pac ... vs-broncos
"Close to one year after suffering a season-ending foot injury at Detroit, Green Bay Packers cornerback Eric Stokes will be activated for Sunday's game at the Denver Broncos"
I hope Stokes can consistently live up to the positive legacies of his jersey number. Jeter, Newsome, Woodson, to name a few.
Oh, and please not Jue or HaHa or Hadl, again to name a few.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023
Posted: 22 Oct 2023 06:45
by TheSkeptic
6 months to heal. 1 year to rebuild to best case 95% of previous strength and range. Beyond that is not possible.