Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 29 Mar 2023 06:16
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If the Jets had such great receivers, why is Lazard going there? While Lazard is not chopped liver, he is not Adams or Jennings or Nelson or even Jones. If the Jets had a very good WR group, he would be WR#3 but I am betting he is WR#2, same as in GB
A sticking point in the talks is the Jets seeking an element of protection built into the trade, specifically one that sends some 2025 draft compensation to New York from Green Bay if Rodgers does not play in 2024 and beyond.
It boils down to the Packers wanting “straight shot” draft picks without qualifiers, while the Jets want such high level of compensation to be based on 2023 team performance and Rodgers also playing for New York in 2024.
I can get behind contingencies of Rodgers playing a snap in 2024. But I cannot get behind contingencies of team performance. If Rodgers and/or the Jets stink...not our problem. If Rodgers only gives them a year, I can understand conditional picks being less in the overall trade.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:34per Charles Robinson, one of the sticking points of the Rodgers trade is NYJ wants certain protections against Rodgers retiring after playing only one season, such as GB sending them 2025 draft capital.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-packer ... kYg_9H1FCm
A sticking point in the talks is the Jets seeking an element of protection built into the trade, specifically one that sends some 2025 draft compensation to New York from Green Bay if Rodgers does not play in 2024 and beyond.
It boils down to the Packers wanting “straight shot” draft picks without qualifiers, while the Jets want such high level of compensation to be based on 2023 team performance and Rodgers also playing for New York in 2024.
But its also kind of a nice mechanism. A 2nd, would just be 33-64.go pak go wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:43I can get behind contingencies of Rodgers playing a snap in 2024. But I cannot get behind contingencies of team performance. If Rodgers and/or the Jets stink...not our problem. If Rodgers only gives them a year, I can understand conditional picks being less in the overall trade.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:34per Charles Robinson, one of the sticking points of the Rodgers trade is NYJ wants certain protections against Rodgers retiring after playing only one season, such as GB sending them 2025 draft capital.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-packer ... kYg_9H1FCm
A sticking point in the talks is the Jets seeking an element of protection built into the trade, specifically one that sends some 2025 draft compensation to New York from Green Bay if Rodgers does not play in 2024 and beyond.
It boils down to the Packers wanting “straight shot” draft picks without qualifiers, while the Jets want such high level of compensation to be based on 2023 team performance and Rodgers also playing for New York in 2024.
Good article, if his “sources” have the right poop.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:34per Charles Robinson, one of the sticking points of the Rodgers trade is NYJ wants certain protections against Rodgers retiring after playing only one season, such as GB sending them 2025 draft capital.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-packer ... kYg_9H1FCm
A sticking point in the talks is the Jets seeking an element of protection built into the trade, specifically one that sends some 2025 draft compensation to New York from Green Bay if Rodgers does not play in 2024 and beyond.
It boils down to the Packers wanting “straight shot” draft picks without qualifiers, while the Jets want such high level of compensation to be based on 2023 team performance and Rodgers also playing for New York in 2024.
Of course, Rodgers could settle the whole thing if he'd simply give the Jets assurances beyond the 2023 season.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:34per Charles Robinson, one of the sticking points of the Rodgers trade is NYJ wants certain protections against Rodgers retiring after playing only one season, such as GB sending them 2025 draft capital.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-packer ... kYg_9H1FCm
A sticking point in the talks is the Jets seeking an element of protection built into the trade, specifically one that sends some 2025 draft compensation to New York from Green Bay if Rodgers does not play in 2024 and beyond.
It boils down to the Packers wanting “straight shot” draft picks without qualifiers, while the Jets want such high level of compensation to be based on 2023 team performance and Rodgers also playing for New York in 2024.
or he wants his new team to give the packers as little as possible for his servicesAPB wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:08Of course, Rodgers could settle the whole thing if he'd simply give the Jets assurances beyond the 2023 season.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:34per Charles Robinson, one of the sticking points of the Rodgers trade is NYJ wants certain protections against Rodgers retiring after playing only one season, such as GB sending them 2025 draft capital.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-packer ... kYg_9H1FCm
A sticking point in the talks is the Jets seeking an element of protection built into the trade, specifically one that sends some 2025 draft compensation to New York from Green Bay if Rodgers does not play in 2024 and beyond.
It boils down to the Packers wanting “straight shot” draft picks without qualifiers, while the Jets want such high level of compensation to be based on 2023 team performance and Rodgers also playing for New York in 2024.
The only reason he's not giving those assurances is because a) that'd eliminate the annual Jan-Apr Rodgers centric drama he seems to relish, and/or b) he wants to keep the Favre "stick-it-to-them" option on the table.
Or he might not be sure if he wants to play more than one more year. Wasn't he entertaining the notion of retirement before he went into his darkness retreat?APB wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:08Of course, Rodgers could settle the whole thing if he'd simply give the Jets assurances beyond the 2023 season.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:34per Charles Robinson, one of the sticking points of the Rodgers trade is NYJ wants certain protections against Rodgers retiring after playing only one season, such as GB sending them 2025 draft capital.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-packer ... kYg_9H1FCm
A sticking point in the talks is the Jets seeking an element of protection built into the trade, specifically one that sends some 2025 draft compensation to New York from Green Bay if Rodgers does not play in 2024 and beyond.
It boils down to the Packers wanting “straight shot” draft picks without qualifiers, while the Jets want such high level of compensation to be based on 2023 team performance and Rodgers also playing for New York in 2024.
The only reason he's not giving those assurances is because a) that'd eliminate the annual Jan-Apr Rodgers centric drama he seems to relish, and/or b) he wants to keep the Favre "one-and-done stick-it-to-them" option on the table.
How then does that square with his assertion of still being capable of playing at an MVP level? Even the self-centered Rodgers knows the NFL is, first and foremost, a business and that acquiring a player capable of MVP level play holds significant value.Drj820 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:13or he wants his new team to give the packers as little as possible for his servicesAPB wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:08Of course, Rodgers could settle the whole thing if he'd simply give the Jets assurances beyond the 2023 season.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:34per Charles Robinson, one of the sticking points of the Rodgers trade is NYJ wants certain protections against Rodgers retiring after playing only one season, such as GB sending them 2025 draft capital.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-packer ... kYg_9H1FCm
The only reason he's not giving those assurances is because a) that'd eliminate the annual Jan-Apr Rodgers centric drama he seems to relish, and/or b) he wants to keep the Favre "stick-it-to-them" option on the table.
I was definitely thinking this as soon as he said he was 90% retirement. Really don't think it was ever a whole lot of doubt.Drj820 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:13or he wants his new team to give the packers as little as possible for his servicesAPB wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:08Of course, Rodgers could settle the whole thing if he'd simply give the Jets assurances beyond the 2023 season.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023 15:34per Charles Robinson, one of the sticking points of the Rodgers trade is NYJ wants certain protections against Rodgers retiring after playing only one season, such as GB sending them 2025 draft capital.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-packer ... kYg_9H1FCm
The only reason he's not giving those assurances is because a) that'd eliminate the annual Jan-Apr Rodgers centric drama he seems to relish, and/or b) he wants to keep the Favre "stick-it-to-them" option on the table.
what does Rodgers playing at an MVP level have to do with Rodgers not wanting to reward the Packers with loot from his new team on his way out the door?APB wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:25How then does that square with his assertion of still being capable of playing at an MVP level? Even the self-centered Rodgers knows the NFL is, first and foremost, a business and that acquiring a player capable of MVP level play holds significant value.Drj820 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:13or he wants his new team to give the packers as little as possible for his servicesAPB wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 09:08
Of course, Rodgers could settle the whole thing if he'd simply give the Jets assurances beyond the 2023 season.
The only reason he's not giving those assurances is because a) that'd eliminate the annual Jan-Apr Rodgers centric drama he seems to relish, and/or b) he wants to keep the Favre "stick-it-to-them" option on the table.
If GB structures a revised deal and spreads it out, I think you're looking at a $2-3M cap hit in 2023. Its a challenge to find a viable vet WR for that price so including him in the trade makes sense. OTC valuation on him was $4.8M for 2022. Rodgers was talking Davis up recently, I wasn't sure if that was him goosing the trade value or what.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 11:20I don't want Corey Davis only because we can't afford him. I'd just so much rather spend Corey Davis money on a safety or DT. But if they're working on a reduced price, his skillset is a nice addition to the room,
I don’t want to trade for dead cap space in 2024. Ken Ingalls recently posted that we’re already over the 2024 cap without even considering that Gary will be on the team. It’s time to stop taking on money and “spreading it out.”BSA wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 11:45If GB structures a revised deal and spreads it out, I think you're looking at a $2-3M cap hit in 2023. Its a challenge to find a viable vet WR for that price so including him in the trade makes sense. OTC valuation on him was $4.8M for 2022. Rodgers was talking Davis up recently, I wasn't sure if that was him goosing the trade value or what.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 11:20I don't want Corey Davis only because we can't afford him. I'd just so much rather spend Corey Davis money on a safety or DT. But if they're working on a reduced price, his skillset is a nice addition to the room,
https://overthecap.com/player/corey-davis/5589
Why would it be dead cap space if Corey is playing for the Packers in 2024 ?YoHoChecko wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023 11:55I don’t want to trade for dead cap space in 2024. Ken Ingalls recently posted that we’re already over the 2024 cap without even considering that Gary will be on the team. It’s time to stop taking on money and “spreading it out.”