Page 120 of 130
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 14:39
by YoHoChecko
Yoop wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 14:35
the Niners and NE seem like agent rumors to me to get the Jets deal done
Probably, at present.
But it remains my position that it would be a lot easier to find another Rodgers trade partner than it would be for the jets to find another QB with Rodgers’
capability in 2023.
These rumors point to at least enough interest to have fallback options. Point is: the Packers won’t get left stick with his contact. The Jets might get stuck without a high level QB.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 15:29
by Scott4Pack
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 14:39
Yoop wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 14:35
the Niners and NE seem like agent rumors to me to get the Jets deal done
Probably, at present.
But it remains my position that it would be a lot easier to find another Rodgers trade partner than it would be for the jets to find another QB with Rodgers’
capability in 2023.
These rumors point to at least enough interest to have fallback options. Point is: the Packers won’t get left stick with his contact. The Jets might get stuck without a high level QB.
Oh, you say the Packers have the leverage?
;-)
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 17:00
by Labrev
Pat McAfee and NFL Analysis Network are parroting the report about SanFran's interest in Rodgers.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 18:11
by BSA
Its a weird entanglement ( menage ?) for sure.
MLF, Saleh and Shanahan all know each other very well and they all run a variation of the same offense
9ers and Jets both poised to make a run
9ers have a former QB at QB coach, Brian Griese, that's attractive to AR
My proposal
(3) 3rds in 2023
(1) 1st in 2024
(1) Slightly used George Kittle
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 18:55
by Labrev
I looked over SF's roster and don't see any real trade targets. All the worthwhile guys are stars who they will not want to part with because they are making a push, yet they don't really have any position where they are stacked and can expend a good player. Best I could realistically think of was Juaun Jennings (meh).
They will have to offer their 2024 1st for us to even consider a trade with them. And tbh, that's not very lucrative. Barring injury, SF with Rodgers is an almost surefire playoff team, even more assuredly than him with NYJ, so you are looking at a pick somewhere in the 20s.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 19:25
by BF004
Labrev wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 18:55
I looked over SF's roster and don't see any real trade targets.
Man, their last 3 drafts were awful.
Like all 3 probably worse than gutes worst draft.
How were they good last year?
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 19:58
by Drj820
BF004 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 19:25
Labrev wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 18:55
I looked over SF's roster and don't see any real trade targets.
Man, their last 3 drafts were awful.
Like all 3 probably worse than gutes worst draft.
How were they good last year?
Great scheme, great players on defense, Brandon Aiyuk, CMC, and Deebo Samuel help.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 20:06
by YoHoChecko
BSA wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 18:11
My proposal
(3) 3rds in 2023
(1) 1st in 2024
(1) Slightly used George Kittle
49ers offense falls from efficient and potent to mediocre and underwhelming without Kittle. Can't see them doing that.
I also think that while it's totally fun to think about these alternatives, we're way ahead of ourselves here. Right now, these other teams exist only to provide extra leverage for us.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 20:34
by BF004
Be understating to say Kittle would be an upgrade from what we have, but we'd be on the hook for about $12M this year and 40M over 3 years.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 20:34
by BF004
Drj820 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 19:58
BF004 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 19:25
Labrev wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 18:55
I looked over SF's roster and don't see any real trade targets.
Man, their last 3 drafts were awful.
Like all 3 probably worse than gutes worst draft.
How were they good last year?
Great scheme, great players on defense, Brandon Aiyuk, CMC, and Deebo Samuel help.
Wow, your first positive comment.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 05 Apr 2023 10:37
by BSA
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 20:06
49ers offense falls from efficient and potent to mediocre and underwhelming without Kittle.
^^ insert Rodgers instead of Kittle and this sentence still rings true
You want the upgrade, ya gotta pay.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 05 Apr 2023 10:41
by BF004
BSA wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 18:11
Its a weird entanglement ( menage ?) for sure.
MLF, Saleh and Shanahan all know each other very well and they all run a variation of the same offense
9ers and Jets both poised to make a run
9ers have a former QB at QB coach, Brian Griese, that's attractive to AR
My proposal
(3) 3rds in 2023
(1) 1st in 2024
(1) Slightly used George Kittle
How about Brandon Aiyuk?
$2.3M this year, $14.1M next year on 5th year option? Hasn't been a breakout star, but been steadily improving, crack 1K yards and had 8 TD's.
Aiyuk been mentioned in trade rumors already. Not sure why, perhaps the 9ers don't plan on giving him the 20M+ extension he'll likely need.
Not really sure how that would effect trade comp, if Packers are looking for solid 1st round value, trade would almost be straight up Rodgers for Aiyuk? Maybe some filler one way or the other.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 05 Apr 2023 10:43
by Scott4Pack
If the trade did go the way of the Niners, wouldn’t Guty expect two (or more) of their 3rd round picks (as the Niners have no 1st round pick)? This would be in addition to any conditional pick next year.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 05 Apr 2023 11:01
by BSA
BF004 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023 10:41
Aiyuk been mentioned in trade rumors already. Not sure why,
Aiyuk has been in Kyle's doghouse since he arrived in SF. I don't know all the particulars, but Kyle called him out on more than one occasion
There were some rumblings that GB was interested in 2020 when SF jumped in front of the Packers to snag the WR.
Packers took Love with the next pick
"Aiyuk, who was in Kyle Shanahan's doghouse most of last season, is showcasing the work ethic Samuel showcases every offseason.
"Each year guys have, you learn stuff from it and you learn how hard this league is and guys usually go one or two ways each year," Shanahan said at 49ers OTAs. "They realize, 'Man, I have to put more work in and prepare for that long haul, or, 'Man, that was exhausting and I'm going to avoid that as long as I can, until I have to come back again.' And usually the ones who get better and better are the ones who figure out what they have to do during the season and in the offseason to prepare them for that."
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 05 Apr 2023 12:50
by lake shark
BF004 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 19:25
Labrev wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 18:55
I looked over SF's roster and don't see any real trade targets.
Man, their last 3 drafts were awful.
Like all 3 probably worse than gutes worst draft.
How were they good last year?
Probably why they are trading picks for pro bowlers and signing top FAs. Also you can’t say awful when you get Brock Purdy as your final pick.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 05 Apr 2023 13:05
by go pak go
lake shark wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023 12:50
BF004 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 19:25
Labrev wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023 18:55
I looked over SF's roster and don't see any real trade targets.
Man, their last 3 drafts were awful.
Like all 3 probably worse than gutes worst draft.
How were they good last year?
Probably why they are trading picks for pro bowlers and signing top FAs. Also you can’t say awful when you get Brock Purdy as your final pick.
People say awful when we got Jaire Alexander as a pick.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 05 Apr 2023 19:42
by Drj820
Winning with Brock Purdy is pretty good indicator of quality drafts in the past.
Lucky for the packers we all get to see how good Guteys drafts have been over the next couple of seasons with Love at QB and Rodgers long gone.
Be patient, this debate will soon have much more clarity!!
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 06 Apr 2023 08:41
by Labrev
So basically GB brass have given NYJ their terms for the trade and are just waiting for Jets brass to accept said terms.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 06 Apr 2023 11:58
by Scott4Pack
Apparently, Guty implied that if the trade isn’t done by (or during) the draft, that “everything changes.” I didn’t see the article that would tell what “everything” means. Firewall thingy…
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 06 Apr 2023 12:13
by Labrev
Post-draft is more cap-friendly for us to move Rodgers. 'Not overly jazzed with this draft class, so I won't be too broken up about it if we miss out on picks for this year.