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Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 15:33
by Madcity_matt
wallyuwl wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 15:24
In other words, Gute is gonna get smoked if this is how it goes down. As expected.
I never expected we'd get the 13. 2 2nds would be great but I'd be happy with a 2 and a 3, or even a 2/4.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 15:34
by Scott4Pack
I still started this whole conversation hoping for two 2nds (one this year and one next). I’ll hope for more, but will be totally happy with this. To me, it’s most important that we move on.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 16:51
by wallyuwl
Such low expectations for what is acceptable for compensation for a guy who was MVP 4 times, and twice in the last three seasons.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 18:23
by Scott4Pack
wallyuwl wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 16:51
Such low expectations for what is acceptable for compensation for a guy who was MVP 4 times, and twice in the last three seasons.
Not low. Just adequate. Don’t forget there is a portion of the contract to deal with too.
The goal here is to get Rodgers to the Jets (or any other team), not to stockpile picks. If we get more picks, great. But it really isn’t necessary.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 19:01
by RingoCStarrQB
wallyuwl wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 16:51
Such low expectations for what is acceptable for compensation for a guy who was MVP 4 times, and twice in the last three seasons.
Does it matter what the Chargers gave up to get Unitas? Johnny had 3 NFL Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship, 3 MVPs, and 6 All-NFLs when he left Baltimore.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 19:26
by salmar80
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 19:01
Does it matter what the Chargers gave up to get Unitas?
No. It does not matter at all.
Cool card with some punter data on it, tho.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 19:33
by lupedafiasco
In my opinion if we don’t get pick 13 that’s a total failure. Now I don’t care if we give them back pick 15 but if we don’t come away with the rights to pick 13 Gutenbumst is pussy lips.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 19:53
by YoHoChecko
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 19:33
In my opinion if we don’t get pick 13 that’s a total failure. Now I don’t care if we give them back pick 15 but if we don’t come away with the rights to pick 13 Gutenbumst is pussy lips.
I mean, I agree that I want that, but if we get two 2nds, Corey Davis, and Jeremy Ruckert but not 13, I'll be just fine
(yes, I know there's been no mention of Ruckert in any reporting but we need a TE who has played in the NFL pretty badly and they have three of them)
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 20:08
by bud fox
Jets gm saying rodgers will be there.
For him to say that the deal must be done and this is more of a timing thing.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 20:44
by Scott4Pack
bud fox wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 20:08
Jets gm saying rodgers will be there.
For him to say that the deal must be done and this is more of a timing thing.
Or at least maybe they’ve overcome any “major” hindrances.
:-)
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 20:44
by Foosball
I feel like the Jets GM and Boomer Esiason are using this “negotiating in good faith” crap against the Packers.
The fact of the matter is the Packers own the rights to Arron Rodgers not the Jets. The Packers can negotiate with anyone they want.
The Packers have been operating in “good faith” with the Jets by compromising a little by not insisting on their 1st round pick. But the Jets don’t seem to be compromising and the 2 sides have been at an impasse for weeks. Well, If they’re at an impasse then they’re no longer negotiating….whether you want it to be called “in good faith” or not.
If I was Gute I would call the Niners. Give me 2 3’s this draft, a decent player and a number 1 next year. Rodgers gets to play for his childhood favorite team in CA and Joe Douglas can go screw himself.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 21:23
by bud fox
Foosball wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 20:44
I feel like the Jets GM and Boomer Esiason are using this “negotiating in good faith” crap against the Packers.
The fact of the matter is the Packers own the rights to Arron Rodgers not the Jets. The Packers can negotiate with anyone they want.
The Packers have been operating in “good faith” with the Jets by compromising a little by not insisting on their 1st round pick. But the Jets don’t seem to be compromising and the 2 sides have been at an impasse for weeks. Well, If they’re at an impasse then they’re no longer negotiating….whether you want it to be called “in good faith” or not.
If I was Gute I would call the Niners. Give me 2 3’s this draft, a decent player and a number 1 next year. Rodgers gets to play for his childhood favorite team in CA and Joe Douglas can go screw himself.
No team will trade more value than the jets. Rodgers and his t3am will tell them he will retire.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 21:42
by Drj820
Corey Davis sucks. We don’t need him.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 08 Apr 2023 22:34
by YoHoChecko
Drj820 wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 21:42
Corey Davis sucks. We don’t need him.
He doesn’t *suck* but he’s very mediocre and I’m not excited about him in any way.
It just seems commonly reported that he’s coming, he likely would’ve been cut by now if he wasn’t, and the Jets need to clear cap assurance to fit Rodgers in, so it makes sense that they’re sending a contract our way as well.
He blocks and has experience with MLF. I'm just accepting that it's going to be part of the deal and hoping the salary/contact restructure/extension is quite extensive in terms of savings
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 09 Apr 2023 15:50
by RingoCStarrQB
Foosball wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 20:44
I feel like the Jets GM and Boomer Esiason are using this “negotiating in good faith” crap against the Packers.
The fact of the matter is the Packers own the rights to Arron Rodgers not the Jets. The Packers can negotiate with anyone they want.
The Packers have been operating in “good faith” with the Jets by compromising a little by not insisting on their 1st round pick. But the Jets don’t seem to be compromising and the 2 sides have been at an impasse for weeks. Well, If they’re at an impasse then they’re no longer negotiating….whether you want it to be called “in good faith” or not.
If I was Gute I would call the Niners. Give me 2 3’s this draft, a decent player and a number 1 next year. Rodgers gets to play for his childhood favorite team in CA and Joe Douglas can go screw himself.
Whew! 
and 
Pounding sand may be appropriate as well.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 09 Apr 2023 17:18
by BF004
Jets refuse to surround Aaron Rodgers with playmakers.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 09 Apr 2023 18:06
by bud fox
BF004 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2023 17:18
Jets refuse to surround Aaron Rodgers with playmakers.
15m guaranteed upto 18m.
Was thinking Max 10m but shows how valuable receivers are.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 09 Apr 2023 18:50
by BF004
bud fox wrote: ↑09 Apr 2023 18:06
BF004 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2023 17:18
Jets refuse to surround Aaron Rodgers with playmakers.
15m guaranteed upto 18m.
Was thinking Max 10m but shows how valuable receivers are.
I wouldn’t be shocked if Lamar signs shortly after now.
No one’s liked obj more than me over the years. Still stand by we win the super if we signed him in ‘20 or ‘21.
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 09 Apr 2023 18:58
by Drj820
Lamar should take notes from OBJ about how valuable an agent can be
Re: Rodgers Watch 2023
Posted: 10 Apr 2023 11:59
by Madcity_matt
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑08 Apr 2023 19:33
In my opinion if we don’t get pick 13 that’s a total failure. Now I don’t care if we give them back pick 15 but if we don’t come away with the rights to pick 13 Gutenbumst is pussy lips.
eh, you'll likely be disappointed no matter what happens. And you'll thnink the same of Gutey no matter what happens.