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Rodgers Watch: Best Rodgers play from each game in his 2021 MVP season

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

08 Apr 2023 16:51

Such low expectations for what is acceptable for compensation for a guy who was MVP 4 times, and twice in the last three seasons.

He's 39, was largely leaning towards retiring after last season, and costs a ton. Had we traded him last off season we would have gotten a lot more.

Madcity_matt wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:29

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

08 Apr 2023 16:51

Such low expectations for what is acceptable for compensation for a guy who was MVP 4 times, and twice in the last three seasons.

He's 39, was largely leaning towards retiring after last season, and costs a ton. Had we traded him last off season we would have gotten a lot more.

Am I allowed to blame Gute for not trading him last year?? or....

Rodgers Watch:

Teams leaving AR too much time

Drj820 wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:30

Madcity_matt wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:29

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

08 Apr 2023 16:51

Such low expectations for what is acceptable for compensation for a guy who was MVP 4 times, and twice in the last three seasons.

He's 39, was largely leaning towards retiring after last season, and costs a ton. Had we traded him last off season we would have gotten a lot more.

Am I allowed to blame Gute for not trading him last year?? or....

Yes, it was a big mistake that should count against him

Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:37

Yes, it was a big mistake that should count against him

No it shouldn't.
Because Gute had trade partners lined up and Murphy nixed it.
Murphy was deathly afraid of having another black cloud over the org, similar to the fiasco around pushing Favray out the door.

There are plenty of areas for improvement for Gute, but bashing him on this one is misplaced.

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:43

Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:37

Yes, it was a big mistake that should count against him

No it shouldn't.
Because Gute had trade partners lined up and Murphy nixed it.
Murphy was deathly afraid of having another black cloud over the org, similar to the fiasco around pushing Favray out the door.

There are plenty of areas for improvement for Gute, but bashing him on this one is misplaced.

Can you point me to the news source that says Gute had trades lined up and Murphy axed his plan?

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:43

Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:37

Yes, it was a big mistake that should count against him

No it shouldn't.
Because Gute had trade partners lined up and Murphy nixed it.
Murphy was deathly afraid of having another black cloud over the org, similar to the fiasco around pushing Favray out the door.

There are plenty of areas for improvement for Gute, but bashing him on this one is misplaced.

I have never heard of this.

go pak go wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:57

I have never heard of this.

I am a voracious reader about the Packers - and I bring a lot of links here for your consideration.
However, some info I come across isn't published - but comes from medical people, strength & conditioning guys, former scouts etc.

Gute saying " I have to do my job" was true last year, just like this year.
But Murphy didn't want 2 black clouds on his watch - and pushed to appease AR.

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 13:13

go pak go wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:57

I have never heard of this.

I am a voracious reader about the Packers - and I bring a lot of links here for your consideration.
However, some info I come across isn't published - but comes from medical people, strength & conditioning guys, former scouts etc.

Gute saying " I have to do my job" was true last year, just like this year.
But Murphy didn't want 2 black clouds on his watch - and pushed to appease AR.

This runs contrary to everything we have heard "publically". Seems fairly obvious to me that Murphy wants Rodgers gone, and Gute and Rodgers were actually on the road to making peace last year.

I believe it would be the opposite. Gute and Lafleur saw how Love was struggling and was terrified to push the reigning MVP out the door, while Murphy has been in a power struggle with 12, centered around there not being enough room in the building for both ego's, and that Murphy would be happy to get a haul for Rodgers.

Gutey having a dealed lined up that only didnt happen because of a murphy veto would be major news. News that any good reporter would have filled us in on. Now, I admit we dont have many good reporters. But I bet Mcginn would have gotten word.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 13:19

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 13:13

go pak go wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:57

I have never heard of this.

I am a voracious reader about the Packers - and I bring a lot of links here for your consideration.
However, some info I come across isn't published - but comes from medical people, strength & conditioning guys, former scouts etc.

Gute saying " I have to do my job" was true last year, just like this year.
But Murphy didn't want 2 black clouds on his watch - and pushed to appease AR.

This runs contrary to everything we have heard "publically". Seems fairly obvious to me that Murphy wants Rodgers gone, and Gute and Rodgers were actually on the road to making peace last year.

I believe it would be the opposite. Gute and Lafleur saw how Love was struggling and was terrified to push the reigning MVP out the door, while Murphy has been in a power struggle with 12, centered around there not being enough room in the building for both ego's, and that Murphy would be happy to get a haul for Rodgers.

Gutey having a dealed lined up that only didnt happen because of a murphy veto would be major news. News that any good reporter would have filled us in on. Now, I admit we dont have many good reporters. But I bet Mcginn would have gotten word.

I believe it, and think you have this twisted around, Murphy has been the biggest Rodgers supporter all along, he gave him a huge extension in 2018 to accept Guty as GM, the firing of McCarthy and the hiring of Matt Lafleur.

If there is anyone that doesn't want a repeat of the Favre fiasco it's Murphy, now I think the devotion towards Rodgers ended last year, but imo Murphy was the driving for behind that mega contract Rodgers got last year, Guty just went along with it because he had nothing to lose if Rodgers was the QB, and more to lose if LOve failed.

I bet Gute would have let go of Rodgers rather then give him shut up money in 2018, accept Murphy was running the show.

why you think Murphy or Gute are worried about how fans would react if they sent Rodgers packing now, or 5 years ago doesn't blend, they have almost no one that would hold then accountable, sure the executive board might be upset, but since when has anyone respected there wishes, and us fans??? well, we havn't threatened a pet in almost 50 years

Question. If we all know what Murphy and Gute are thinking at all times, then why doesn't anyone know the exact trade offer that's sitting on the table?

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:17

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Rodgers Watch: Best Rodgers play from each game in his 2021 MVP season

thank you, and at least a 1/3rd of those great passes where interior routes and into double coverage, Rodgers didn't look as good last year, and much of that was do to issues beyond his control.

It sickens me that all we may get for him is several 2nd or 3rd round draft picks, and possibly a player, I think under the right conditions he can bounce back to 2021 form for at least a couple more seasons.

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 13:13

go pak go wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:57

I have never heard of this.

I am a voracious reader about the Packers - and I bring a lot of links here for your consideration.
However, some info I come across isn't published - but comes from medical people, strength & conditioning guys, former scouts etc.

Gute saying " I have to do my job" was true last year, just like this year.
But Murphy didn't want 2 black clouds on his watch - and pushed to appease AR.

So are you saying you have inside information or are you saying you are implying based on your voracious reading?

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:17

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Rodgers Watch: Best Rodgers play from each game in his 2021 MVP season

Interesting array of recipients

I think it was
1 Tonyan
2 Lazard
3 Cobb
4 MVS
7 Adams

But I didn't rewatch to check my count

go pak go wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 19:02

So are you saying you have inside information or are you saying you are implying based on your voracious reading?

both -
Take it for what its worth to you - some random dude said some stuff on Packers Huddle. I believe it to be true; because I know these guys and have had many conversations over the years. One of them told me about the D. Adams trade a full month before it went public.
I told him he was full of &%$@. Apparently, he wasn't. But you don't know me and you really have no reason to believe me.

Who knows, maybe I'm just be trying to act cool & connected on the internet.

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 20:08

go pak go wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 19:02

So are you saying you have inside information or are you saying you are implying based on your voracious reading?

both -
Take it for what its worth to you - some random dude said some stuff on Packers Huddle. I believe it to be true; because I know these guys and have had many conversations over the years. One of them told me about the D. Adams trade a full month before it went public.
I told him he was full of &%$@. Apparently, he wasn't. But you don't know me and you really have no reason to believe me.

Who knows, maybe I'm just be trying to act cool & connected on the internet.

Sorry. I’m sure you may have connections, but you have failed to absolve Gutey from judgement for holding on to rodgers a year to long and tanking his trade value

Nice article but mainly because it highlights my current theory of why it's taking long but people are acting certain:

For instance, what if the teams have agreed to swap picks – the Jets’ No. 13 and the Packers’ No. 15 – if the board falls to the liking of one or both teams? That could be part of one agreed-to trade scenario. And if the board doesn’t fall that particular way? Then the teams could execute an altered version of the trade.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/rep ... ckers-jets

BSA wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 12:17

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Rodgers Watch: Best Rodgers play from each game in his 2021 MVP season

The pass to MVS at 1:40 is all time.

Pressure, backfoot, stays in the pocket, perfect throw.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023 20:44

Nice article but mainly because it highlights my current theory of why it's taking long but people are acting certain:

For instance, what if the teams have agreed to swap picks – the Jets’ No. 13 and the Packers’ No. 15 – if the board falls to the liking of one or both teams? That could be part of one agreed-to trade scenario. And if the board doesn’t fall that particular way? Then the teams could execute an altered version of the trade.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/rep ... ckers-jets

Yeah seems like it however it is weird you wouldn't want all possible ammo at the beginning of the draft in case you wanted to move up.

I guess only move up that will be considered will be 13.