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the hole, gaping wide was on the left of Myers, or we are talking about 2 different short yardage plays here.
You aren't even talking about the play we are...Yoop wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 10:21the hole, gaping wide was on the left of Myers, or we are talking about 2 different short yardage plays here.
whatever, on the play Dillon looks right at the hole, and still cuts to the right of Myers, as that side is shoved right back, imho it looks like Dillon stuck with the play design
and the reason I asked.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 10:25You aren't even talking about the play we are...Yoop wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 10:21the hole, gaping wide was on the left of Myers, or we are talking about 2 different short yardage plays here.
whatever, on the play Dillon looks right at the hole, and still cuts to the right of Myers, as that side is shoved right back, imho it looks like Dillon stuck with the play design
That's your point? That's a nonsensical point given that on the play we are talking about, Dillon ran into Love on the handoff...Yoop wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 10:31and the reason I asked.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 10:25You aren't even talking about the play we are...Yoop wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 10:21
the hole, gaping wide was on the left of Myers, or we are talking about 2 different short yardage plays here.
whatever, on the play Dillon looks right at the hole, and still cuts to the right of Myers, as that side is shoved right back, imho it looks like Dillon stuck with the play design
the point remains the same, Dillon lacks vision, or he simply sticks with the play design, if it's right, he goes right, left, he goes left
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Rewatching it a few times it definitely might be Love instead of Dillon. His open and first step is almost like a reverse open and then handoff underneath to his right. Seems needlessly complicated for the play. There definitely is an opening right over Rasheed Walker and inside the TE, so play going left, I was wrong there.go pak go wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 09:41I'm not as confident as you are on that. I think we had a shot at it though.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 09:33We had it too if not for Dillon running the wrong direction to get the handoff...go pak go wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 09:32
The decision to not sneak it on 4th and inches was a deviation. Honestly we have snuck it all year and been successful.
I didn't hate not sneaking it because DET really crammed the middle, but I hated the alternative which was just hand it to AJ Dillon on an inside run. My money is far more on Love sneaking it rather than hoping AJ Dillon can plow through because history shows...he can't.
Mike Whale is the only one who said Love was at fault.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023 10:50Rewatching it a few times it definitely might be Love instead of Dillon. His open and first step is almost like a reverse open and then handoff underneath to his right. Seems needlessly complicated for the play. There definitely is an opening right over Rasheed Walker and inside the TE, so play going left, I was wrong there.
ya right Pete.I thought DK was a cant miss top 10 pick. I was astounded how low the league was on him. One of the all time Gutenbumst blunders. Imagine DK taking the top off the D with Adams route running and release shredding people underneath.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023 13:08RANK PLAYER TEAM SPEED GAME
1 D.K. Metcalf SEA 22.23 mph Week 13 vs. SEA
2 Tyreek Hill MIA 22.01 mph Week 5 vs. NYG
3 De'Von Achane MIA 21.93 mph Week 3 vs. DEN
4 De'Von Achane MIA 21.76 mph Week 5 vs. NYG
5 Tyreek Hill MIA 21.66 mph Week 1 at LAC
6 Raheem Mostert MIA 21.62 mph Week 2 at NE
7 Kenneth Walker SEA 21.56 mph Week 8 vs. CLE
8 Ja'Marr Chase CIN 21.54 mph Week 5 at AZ
9 Jayden Reed GB 21.52 mph Week 11 vs. LAC
10 Tyreek Hill MIA 21.52 mph Week 1 at LAC
geesh the Dolphins recorded 5 of the fastest 10 recorded runs of this season, nice to see a Packer make the list.
and Metcalf fell to the 64th pick in that 2019 draft, won the Roy, goes 6.4 at 235 lbs which makes that time even more remarkable, obviously we passed on him because we had just drafted the 3 big and tall receivers the year prior, when the media asked Carroll how Metcalf could possibly be available at the end of the 2nd round, his answer was that everyone thought he was to good to be true
agreed, I didn't want to upset our GM defenders here with another " we should have used higher picks on receivers" post, thanks for doing it for melupedafiasco wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023 14:06I thought DK was a cant miss top 10 pick. I was astounded how low the league was on him. One of the all time Gutenbumst blunders. Imagine DK taking the top off the D with Adams route running and release shredding people underneath.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023 13:08RANK PLAYER TEAM SPEED GAME
1 D.K. Metcalf SEA 22.23 mph Week 13 vs. SEA
2 Tyreek Hill MIA 22.01 mph Week 5 vs. NYG
3 De'Von Achane MIA 21.93 mph Week 3 vs. DEN
4 De'Von Achane MIA 21.76 mph Week 5 vs. NYG
5 Tyreek Hill MIA 21.66 mph Week 1 at LAC
6 Raheem Mostert MIA 21.62 mph Week 2 at NE
7 Kenneth Walker SEA 21.56 mph Week 8 vs. CLE
8 Ja'Marr Chase CIN 21.54 mph Week 5 at AZ
9 Jayden Reed GB 21.52 mph Week 11 vs. LAC
10 Tyreek Hill MIA 21.52 mph Week 1 at LAC
geesh the Dolphins recorded 5 of the fastest 10 recorded runs of this season, nice to see a Packer make the list.
and Metcalf fell to the 64th pick in that 2019 draft, won the Roy, goes 6.4 at 235 lbs which makes that time even more remarkable, obviously we passed on him because we had just drafted the 3 big and tall receivers the year prior, when the media asked Carroll how Metcalf could possibly be available at the end of the 2nd round, his answer was that everyone thought he was to good to be true
I even refrained from calling that group the stooges out of respect for the brethren here 
1. Apparently, many other GMs committed that all-time blunder.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023 14:06I was astounded how low the league was on him. One of the all time Gutenbumst blunders.
Yup. Trading up for Savage was a bad decision. Could have held pat and taken Metcalf and it would have been a significant improvement for our football team.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023 14:06I thought DK was a cant miss top 10 pick. I was astounded how low the league was on him. One of the all time Gutenbumst blunders. Imagine DK taking the top off the D with Adams route running and release shredding people underneath.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023 13:08RANK PLAYER TEAM SPEED GAME
1 D.K. Metcalf SEA 22.23 mph Week 13 vs. SEA
2 Tyreek Hill MIA 22.01 mph Week 5 vs. NYG
3 De'Von Achane MIA 21.93 mph Week 3 vs. DEN
4 De'Von Achane MIA 21.76 mph Week 5 vs. NYG
5 Tyreek Hill MIA 21.66 mph Week 1 at LAC
6 Raheem Mostert MIA 21.62 mph Week 2 at NE
7 Kenneth Walker SEA 21.56 mph Week 8 vs. CLE
8 Ja'Marr Chase CIN 21.54 mph Week 5 at AZ
9 Jayden Reed GB 21.52 mph Week 11 vs. LAC
10 Tyreek Hill MIA 21.52 mph Week 1 at LAC
geesh the Dolphins recorded 5 of the fastest 10 recorded runs of this season, nice to see a Packer make the list.
and Metcalf fell to the 64th pick in that 2019 draft, won the Roy, goes 6.4 at 235 lbs which makes that time even more remarkable, obviously we passed on him because we had just drafted the 3 big and tall receivers the year prior, when the media asked Carroll how Metcalf could possibly be available at the end of the 2nd round, his answer was that everyone thought he was to good to be true
same reason Jordy Nelson fell, tech and agility concerns, lack of route running scores, slow in and out of breaks, thats what I remember, like Jordy, all that stuff was over blown, we should have used our 2nd first on Metcalf versus Savage, however there are misses like Metcalf in every draft class, again no one see's the very best coming every time, college can't miss prospects bust, the same as after thought guys go to the HOF, Bart Starr was a 17th round pickHalf Empty wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023 14:271. Apparently, many other GMs committed that all-time blunder.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023 14:06I was astounded how low the league was on him. One of the all time Gutenbumst blunders.
2. Once again, those that dispute what some here and on other boards have to say with "these guys (coaches, GMs, scouts, et. al.) are professionals, how could we know better? comments may not necessarily be right.
Exactly.
The blunder was picking Savage instead of Metcalf or AJ Brown.