I kind of wouldn't be surprised if we see a corresponding Saints move up in the draft, maybe like pick 5, one ahead of Carolina.
This is no doubt to grab a QB. We'll probably see the other end of this draft night. Still don't think it's a good move. They better be smart and let the kid sit for a year or 2 behind Jameis.
I kind of wouldn't be surprised if we see a corresponding Saints move up in the draft, maybe like pick 5, one ahead of Carolina.
Ohhh good call. It makes sense to do a move like this if the point is the draft ammo, not the draft board. They could get all the way up to 4, according to the draft chart, with just the two firsts. Huh.
I kind of wouldn't be surprised if we see a corresponding Saints move up in the draft, maybe like pick 5, one ahead of Carolina.
Ohhh good call. It makes sense to do a move like this if the point is the draft ammo, not the draft board. They could get all the way up to 4, according to the draft chart, with just the two firsts. Huh.
Be funny if Malik is taken at 2. Have to think he's their #1.
I kind of wouldn't be surprised if we see a corresponding Saints move up in the draft, maybe like pick 5, one ahead of Carolina.
Ohhh good call. It makes sense to do a move like this if the point is the draft ammo, not the draft board. They could get all the way up to 4, according to the draft chart, with just the two firsts. Huh.
This should about do it. I actually like this move back for the Giants. They can still get an elite tackle at 7, especially if you are looking closer at maybe 2 top 6 QB's now.
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Re: 2022 Draft Discussion
Posted: 04 Apr 2022 16:25
by YoHoChecko
Yeah, and the Giants are allegedly looking to trade back, also, now that Gettleman is out of town.
Offensive Line
Luke Goedecki
Abraham Lucas (OT)
Tyler Smith (OT-but not as high as he's projected)
Cole Strange (OG)
Kellen Diesch (RT/G)
Chris Paul (OG)
Zach Tom
Cade Mays (OG)
Cordell Volson (OT-OG conversion maybe? A little tall for inside)
(Honestly a lot of names on OL I'm completely unfamiliar with and I should spend more time on these positions)
Doing some work on this now.
Braxton Jones as a 5th round developmental swing tackle has a lot of appeal.
Dylan Parham, a likely 2nd rounder, maybe 3rd, fits us to a tee, though a little short.
Zachary Thomas (not to be confused with Zach Tom) needs to gain a little strength in both his upper and lower body, but has the size, tools, and athleticism to stick around--probably in our 7th round range
Logan Bruss from Wisconsin has measurables and is local; interested to know more about his game.
Chris Paul, Spencer Burford, and Ed Ingram are all close to range that we look at but don't really stand out to me. Burford (UTSA) would be later rounds. Paul (Tulsa) Mid rounds. Not sure about Ingram (LSU).
Absolutely loving Tyler Smith if he's around for a late second (doubtful). Cole Strange inside in round 3 or 4 and Braxton Jones late to develop appeals to me. Lots of balls of clay to put our coach to work with.
Re: 2022 Draft Discussion
Posted: 04 Apr 2022 21:34
by BF004
According to multiple reports, USC’s Pro Day has been moved from Tuesday until April 15. Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the move was made at the request of London after he suffered a mild hamstring strain while working out over the weekend.
Re: 2022 Draft Discussion
Posted: 05 Apr 2022 12:32
by BF004
How weird does it looking having the Bengals and Lions picking 31 and 32?
How weird does it looking having the Bengals and Lions picking 31 and 32?
Can't get used to seeing that.
I just harken back to the days when there were only 30 teams and I feel much better about it.
Re: 2022 Draft Discussion
Posted: 06 Apr 2022 12:27
by salmar80
Finally started watching some WR film.
Olave looks... OK? Well-rounded game, but didn't pop off the screen with anything, except sure hands. I wonder how much he benefited from attention given to the other targets... Zero double coverage, probably often vs CB2 or CB3. But I could see him becoming good if he remains a student of the game and takes another step in already versatile route-running. Needs to work on disguising his intentions. Dude needs to watch Davante Adams' tape. I feel like we've had success with guys like him - good route runners but not freak athletes - in 2nd round in the past... I don't think he's as ready-to-play as pundits tout, but long term could work himself into the next Davante/Jennings. Very low chance of WR1 year one...
Drake London: Much more exciting, mainly for being real good on doing the 10-20 yard ins, outs, curls and backshoulders for a guy his size. And has the long speed to threaten with it. That spells instant production with AR if they get the timings right. Not a gazelle like Stokes, but quick feet and fluid hips for a tall guy. Nice little "legal" pushoffs. Needs to hit the weight room and max his body, but the fact he has thrived as no 1 without it leaves room for higher ceiling. Had success even when being focus of the D. He's got a WR1 vibe. 1st round for sure.
Olave looks... OK? Well-rounded game, but didn't pop off the screen with anything, except sure hands. I wonder how much he benefited from attention given to the other targets... Zero double coverage, probably often vs CB2 or CB3. But I could see him becoming good if he remains a student of the game and takes another step in already versatile route-running. Needs to work on disguising his intentions. Dude needs to watch Davante Adams' tape. I feel like we've had success with guys like him - good route runners but not freak athletes - in 2nd round in the past... I don't think he's as ready-to-play as pundits tout, but long term could work himself into the next Davante/Jennings. Very low chance of WR1 year one...
This is how I feel.
I also don't see him gain separation early in the routes. His separation skills happen in the route tree and with clean breaks and all, but he doesn't beat guys on release, and like you said, he's not beating the opposition's best very often. He seems overwhelmingly just a guy who runs in a scheme to me.
I've never watched Olave tape and said "ah, this is the guy." He doesn't stand out at all
Re: 2022 Draft Discussion
Posted: 06 Apr 2022 16:47
by BF004
I believe I'm also to the point where I would simply be downright happy with George Pickens at 22.
I think we could get him later, but if the Packers think that highly of him, then I love it.
But that whole we could have got him later thing is always a fools argument.
I feel like almost all his knocks are that he is thin and wiry. But almost all game film from his is from '19 and '20 when he was 18 and 19 years old, and even then he was the best athlete on the field in the SEC.
I believe I'm also to the point where I would simply be downright happy with George Pickens at 22.
I think we could get him later, but if the Packers think that highly of him, then I love it.
But that whole we could have got him later thing is always a fools argument.
I feel like almost all his knocks are that he is thin and wiry. But almost all game film from his is from '19 and '20 when he was 18 and 19 years old, and even then he was the best athlete on the field in the SEC.
I’m with ya.
I see a lot of AJ Green in his game. That’s a good thing.
Re: 2022 Draft Discussion
Posted: 07 Apr 2022 08:49
by NCF
Haven't watched this all yet, but looks to be a nice breakdown of the middle-of-the-pack WR prospects.
I feel like almost all his knocks are that he is thin and wiry.
And has squirt bottle control issues.
We all do. Just put one in your hand and see what happens.
Just seems to be a little too much thug there for my taste. I'm sure the Packers have done their homework. If they sign off then I am fine, but wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't pass the test for the Packers brass, even in WR desperation.
you are of course aware that the bungles and Kitty's where around back then too 