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Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 24 Nov 2023 18:28
by RingoCStarrQB
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑24 Nov 2023 16:32
Half Empty wrote: ↑24 Nov 2023 08:56
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑24 Nov 2023 06:23
#1 The Packers no longer have questions about whether Love can be the 4th superior QB in a row: Majik, Favre, Rodgers and now Love. The dynasty continues.
#2 The last 2 drafts appear to be gold medal worthy. Gute rocks!
One, I say one, outstanding year makes for a superior player? Please make your case for Majik (unless the reference was tongue-in-cheek).
Majik is in the Packers hall of fame. He took a cellar dweller team and made them a tam to be respected. He made it interesting and exciting to be a Packers fan after so many miserable years. Is that enough? Too bad he got hurt just when things were finally improving.
That should be more than enough. I recall the 1989 to 1992 games when Majik gave us Packers fans long overdue HOPE. And man oh man .......... did we ever need some HOPE. No one will ever know what Majik may have accomplished had he not gotten injured. Same goes for Sterling Sharpe during the same era.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 25 Nov 2023 09:00
by NCF
Madcity_matt wrote: ↑24 Nov 2023 10:05
Half Empty wrote: ↑24 Nov 2023 08:56
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑24 Nov 2023 06:23
#1 The Packers no longer have questions about whether Love can be the 4th superior QB in a row: Majik, Favre, Rodgers and now Love. The dynasty continues.
#2 The last 2 drafts appear to be gold medal worthy. Gute rocks!
One, I say one, outstanding year makes for a superior player? Please make your case for Majik (unless the reference was tongue-in-cheek).
I think the trajectory looks pretty good for him to be a franchise player, but agree we aren't there yet. Majik is a pretty big stretch though lol. But he did bring some excitement to the fan base with his play. Primed the pump for the fanbase to get ready for an era of greatness.
One year wonder or not, 2nd in the MVP voting means the NFL saw him as a superior player even if for only one season.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... s_1989.htm
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 28 Nov 2023 08:45
by salmar80
This should not be possible, but we are doing kinda OK with the weirdest offensive tackle situation I can remember. I've NEVER seen LTs getting rotated in and out. Or a QB surviving for any throw when your OTs consist of:
1 4th round pick
2 7th round pick
3 Undrafted free agent
OT is still a premium position, and SOMEHOW we are doing OK with measly 6.2M of cap shared between those 3 guys. That's some helluva talent acquisition and development! By rights, we should have Wil Whiticker -level OT play, not OK or Good OT play.
Whomever is our OL scout or who found these guys, and the OL coach, give them a huge Christmas bonus!
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 28 Nov 2023 11:19
by NCF
salmar80 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2023 08:45
Whomever is our OL scout or who found these guys, and the OL coach, give them a huge Christmas bonus!
Cole Madison, Simon Stepaniak, Jake Hanson, Royce Newman, Cole Van Lanen, even Josh Myers... there is value in volume and the hits cover up some of these misses, but the volume has also costed us a bit at other positions. It's clear we made a concerted effort to beef up the interior of our OL to mixed results and, as such, we are still thin, long-term, at OT.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 28 Nov 2023 11:41
by Madcity_matt
NCF wrote: ↑28 Nov 2023 11:19
salmar80 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2023 08:45
Whomever is our OL scout or who found these guys, and the OL coach, give them a huge Christmas bonus!
Cole Madison, Simon Stepaniak, Jake Hanson, Royce Newman, Cole Van Lanen, even Josh Myers... there is value in volume and the hits cover up some of these misses, but the volume has also costed us a bit at other positions. It's clear we made a concerted effort to beef up the interior of our OL to mixed results and, as such, we are still thin, long-term, at OT.
A lot of the lower percentages of hits are directly related to the capital we spent to bring most of these guys in. lots of day 3 picks coming through, for me the optimistic takeaway is that despite the higher miss rate we seem to have found some pretty good hits.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 04 Dec 2023 11:09
by GJPackerBacker
Well, how about those Green Bay Packers? Brilliant win last night against the defending Super Bowl Champs.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 05 Dec 2023 10:26
by TheSkeptic
Difficult not to be positive about them now.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 08 Dec 2023 11:16
by Madcity_matt
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 10:26
Difficult not to be positive about them now.
I fully attribute this thread to their recent success.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 12 Dec 2023 15:50
by JKB
Young WR and DB’s getting lots of playing time, reps and experience
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 12 Dec 2023 16:48
by Madcity_matt
JKB wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023 15:50
Young WR and DB’s getting lots of playing time, reps and experience
agreed, bring in another solid draft classs with 5 top 85 picks, add a few reasonable free agents that fit the culture and I think we'll be really good again. This year has been unsurprisingly inconsistent. Hopefully they can keep growing together.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 12 Dec 2023 18:06
by APB
Qualifies:
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 13 Dec 2023 07:44
by TheSkeptic
APB wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023 18:06
Qualifies:
Barry has to go. He makes bringing the Lombardi Trophy home next season much harder. If I had to make a choice between:
A: winning out and even winning a playoff game this season and being stuck with Bary for several years
B: losing out and missing the playoffs but Barry being fired
I would choose B. The Packers are positioned to be the best team in the league starting next season. I don't want them to blow their chances at 2 or 3 SB wins because of a passive and poorly coached D.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 13 Dec 2023 11:03
by APB
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023 07:44
APB wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023 18:06
Qualifies:
Barry has to go. He makes bringing the Lombardi Trophy home next season much harder. If I had to make a choice between:
A: winning out and even winning a playoff game this season and being stuck with Bary for several years
B: losing out and missing the playoffs but Barry being fired
I would choose B. The Packers are positioned to be the best team in the league starting next season. I don't want them to blow their chances at 2 or 3 SB wins because of a passive and poorly coached D.
Gonna need some positive spin there, [mention]TheSkeptic[/mention]...as of now, your post doesn't qualify.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 13 Dec 2023 15:46
by Madcity_matt
APB wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023 11:03
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023 07:44
APB wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023 18:06
Qualifies:
Barry has to go. He makes bringing the Lombardi Trophy home next season much harder. If I had to make a choice between:
A: winning out and even winning a playoff game this season and being stuck with Bary for several years
B: losing out and missing the playoffs but Barry being fired
I would choose B. The Packers are positioned to be the best team in the league starting next season. I don't want them to blow their chances at 2 or 3 SB wins because of a passive and poorly coached D.
Gonna need some positive spin there, @TheSkeptic...as of now, your post doesn't qualify.
Thanks APB! That said, if Barry was let go, I think there would be a lot of positivity in here.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 13 Dec 2023 17:47
by APB
Madcity_matt wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023 15:46
APB wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023 11:03
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023 07:44
Barry has to go. He makes bringing the Lombardi Trophy home next season much harder. If I had to make a choice between:
A: winning out and even winning a playoff game this season and being stuck with Bary for several years
B: losing out and missing the playoffs but Barry being fired
I would choose B. The Packers are positioned to be the best team in the league starting next season. I don't want them to blow their chances at 2 or 3 SB wins because of a passive and poorly coached D.
Gonna need some positive spin there, @TheSkeptic...as of now, your post doesn't qualify.
Thanks APB! That said, if Barry was let go, I think there would be a lot of positivity in here.
More like euphoria…
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 14 Dec 2023 05:42
by TheSkeptic
APB wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023 17:47
Madcity_matt wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023 15:46
Thanks APB! That said, if Barry was let go, I think there would be a lot of positivity in here.
More like euphoria…
I second that opinion. Euphoria
As for positivity, having a legitimate chance at several SB's in the next 5 years is a very positive thing. Just one little thing needed to make it happen. Very easy task it takes MLF, takes less than 5 minutes. An outside chance it can even start this season.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 14 Dec 2023 16:53
by wallyuwl
MLF was very critical of the soft coverage on the last drive. He refused to say if it was Barry or DB's fault
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 18 Dec 2023 07:19
by TheSkeptic
Looks like the Packers struck gold at TE in this year's draft.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 02 Jan 2024 10:44
by APB
Just incredible when you think about the production you're getting from these guys.
Re: 2023 packers positivity only 🪡
Posted: 02 Jan 2024 10:58
by Pckfn23
4 of the top 6 pass catchers are rookies.