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What's funny though is that I remember after Sharpe's tragic career ending injury, Favre finally learned how to spread the ball around.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑06 May 2024 22:01Damn. If only Brett Favre didn’t have Sterling Sharpe he might have been a Hall of Famer… oh wait a minute!
Did he? He force fed Robert Brooks the very next season almost to the same tune that he did to Sharpe. Then it became force feeding Freeman. It was after this point where he did start spreading the ball around where his INTs increased.Acrobat wrote: ↑07 May 2024 10:20What's funny though is that I remember after Sharpe's tragic career ending injury, Favre finally learned how to spread the ball around.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑06 May 2024 22:01Damn. If only Brett Favre didn’t have Sterling Sharpe he might have been a Hall of Famer… oh wait a minute!
He always threw at least one int ball each half. He benefitted from his velocity getting the ball on the defender so quickly they often couldn't react. But he led in the league in Ints his second year as a starter with 24.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑07 May 2024 11:11Did he? He force fed Robert Brooks the very next season almost to the same tune that he did to Sharpe. Then it became force feeding Freeman. It was after this point where he did start spreading the ball around where his INTs increased.Acrobat wrote: ↑07 May 2024 10:20What's funny though is that I remember after Sharpe's tragic career ending injury, Favre finally learned how to spread the ball around.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑06 May 2024 22:01Damn. If only Brett Favre didn’t have Sterling Sharpe he might have been a Hall of Famer… oh wait a minute!
agree, good point, unless a QB knows where a receiver will be, how does he know where to throw the ball, not to defend the gun slinger Favre, but imo once Sharpe, Brooks and Freeman where gone the only decent route runner left was Driver and his last season with Jennings, Schroader was what MVS was to Rodgers, fast, but never ran a route the same ever, no timing, the QB is left with throwing in the vicinity of the pitch pointlupedafiasco wrote: ↑07 May 2024 11:11Did he? He force fed Robert Brooks the very next season almost to the same tune that he did to Sharpe. Then it became force feeding Freeman. It was after this point where he did start spreading the ball around where his INTs increased.Acrobat wrote: ↑07 May 2024 10:20What's funny though is that I remember after Sharpe's tragic career ending injury, Favre finally learned how to spread the ball around.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑06 May 2024 22:01Damn. If only Brett Favre didn’t have Sterling Sharpe he might have been a Hall of Famer… oh wait a minute!
I still do not agree. Just because Brooks put up big numbers doesn't mean he was spammed like Sharpe was. The numbers actually do not support my assertion, but the passing efficiency gains in 1995 should be pretty obvious to everyone. The point I have been unsuccessfully trying to make is I think it has a little something to do with big brother syndrome. Sharpe came before Favre. Driver before Rodgers. Adams before Love. In some respects it's hard to be the big dog, when you are playing second fiddle on your own team.Yoop wrote: ↑07 May 2024 12:30agree, good point, unless a QB knows where a receiver will be, how does he know where to throw the ball, not to defend the gun slinger Favre, but imo once Sharpe, Brooks and Freeman where gone the only decent route runner left was Driver and his last season with Jennings, Schroader was what MVS was to Rodgers, fast, but never ran a route the same ever, no timing, the QB is left with throwing in the vicinity of the pitch pointlupedafiasco wrote: ↑07 May 2024 11:11Did he? He force fed Robert Brooks the very next season almost to the same tune that he did to Sharpe. Then it became force feeding Freeman. It was after this point where he did start spreading the ball around where his INTs increased.
NCF wrote: ↑07 May 2024 12:43I still do not agree. Just because Brooks put up big numbers doesn't mean he was spammed like Sharpe was. The numbers actually do not support my assertion, but the passing efficiency gains in 1995 should be pretty obvious to everyone. The point I have been unsuccessfully trying to make is I think it has a little something to do with big brother syndrome. Sharpe came before Favre. Driver before Rodgers. Adams before Love. In some respects it's hard to be the big dog, when you are playing second fiddle on your own team.
I specifically meant Brett for passing efficiency.Yoop wrote: ↑07 May 2024 13:30NCF wrote: ↑07 May 2024 12:43I still do not agree. Just because Brooks put up big numbers doesn't mean he was spammed like Sharpe was. The numbers actually do not support my assertion, but the passing efficiency gains in 1995 should be pretty obvious to everyone. The point I have been unsuccessfully trying to make is I think it has a little something to do with big brother syndrome. Sharpe came before Favre. Driver before Rodgers. Adams before Love. In some respects it's hard to be the big dog, when you are playing second fiddle on your own team.
I fail to see the efficiency gains with Brooks though, he went from 63.0 to 61.1 catch rate and almost double the targets as the #2, seems Favre was still polarized on a #1 guy, again.
agree over all efficiency of receiving increased, Chmura, Ingram did much better
actually that barely changed either, the passing yards spiked as Chmura had a PB season and Ingrams yards added in, least that what I see.NCF wrote: ↑07 May 2024 13:44I specifically meant Brett for passing efficiency.Yoop wrote: ↑07 May 2024 13:30NCF wrote: ↑07 May 2024 12:43I still do not agree. Just because Brooks put up big numbers doesn't mean he was spammed like Sharpe was. The numbers actually do not support my assertion, but the passing efficiency gains in 1995 should be pretty obvious to everyone. The point I have been unsuccessfully trying to make is I think it has a little something to do with big brother syndrome. Sharpe came before Favre. Driver before Rodgers. Adams before Love. In some respects it's hard to be the big dog, when you are playing second fiddle on your own team.
I fail to see the efficiency gains with Brooks though, he went from 63.0 to 61.1 catch rate and almost double the targets as the #2, seems Favre was still polarized on a #1 guy, again.
agree over all efficiency of receiving increased, Chmura, Ingram did much better
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thanks, not sure what that has to do with target numbers though, Favre had a very obvious preferred receiver both seasons with Sharp and Brooks, adding better receivers with Chmura and Ingram raised the yardage, and increased the talent level of the position, naturally increasing efficiency, and production
They are the only two qualifiers based on the target minimum. Wicks missed by 2 targets. Watson by 7. If anyone has access to the advanced stats (routes run), it would be interesting to do the calculations and plot those two, anyway.