yes we do want the same thing, the complete package, and the draft could provide it, I just don't expect that it will, so I'am just trying to be realistic and take the guy that I think could transition the fastest which is the safety.NCF wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020 08:47Then, I guess we have to agree to disagree. Of course prospects CAN make the change, but wouldn't you agree that makes the NFL transition more difficult for them? My point is that I don't want to have to choose between a S who can cover, but not tackle, and a LB who can tackle but not cover. I want the total package. I know that is asking a lot and those guys can be difficult to find, but its not impossible, even down the draft board. Maybe we need stricter athletic cut offs like we seemingly do at other positions. Just don't draft a guy that you already KNOW can't do it.Yoop wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020 08:36you bring up the failed pick of Jones, who by the way has not excelled at safety any where either to my knowledge, yet ya don't mention the half doz. mid to later round ILB's that didn't make it either.
just because Jones couldn't adjust to it doesn't mean other safety's wont, for cripe sacks you act as though players can't change positions at this level when evidence shows that it happens regularly, Nick Collins was a CB, when tight ends grow to much there made into OT's, college QB's switch so they can have a pro career, it happens.
I think people are loosing focus simply because we couldn't stop the run well enough 3 times last year, never mind that the players we had where good enough to do it, but our DC decided to keep single gaping and our Dl guys kept over pursuing those gaps, basically insuring that they had no chance to make a play, and because of that very poor play, we now need the greatest ILB and Dliner we can possibly get.
I didn't say to not take a later round ILB, in fact I endorse doing that, but my point is and always has been that we NEED BETTER coverage, and that chance of getting that with a later round ILB is slim to near zero, thats why ya take the safety.
in college (and I admit I don't watch as much of it that I use to) the SS plays in the box almost as much as the ILB, so they know quite a bit about run signs that a offense can't hide, so that gives them the same type knowledge a ILB learns defending the run, and when it comes to coverage, typically they are much farther ahead of the lber curve, I see no reason why a big safety isn't the best second option to groom to play that will position for years for us.
KC played the 3 safety scheme for years with berry, other teams as well, your allowing a few lbs to cloud your judgement I think.
some positions are really hard to fill because Colleges don't prioritize the position as much, FS for years seemed like that, lis, Collins was a college CB for several years, others here ( I think Yoho) myself for sure even said we need to find a corner we can turn into a FS, the safety's coming out lack the speed, basically it's been the same with ILB, those that we've had and failed simply where not good choices to try with, but Burnett became a prized UFA because he could do it, and did it well, go look up his stats.