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Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 06:09
by go pak go
Pckfn23 wrote:
10 Mar 2025 20:24
Doesn't it feel like every guard and center are never credited with a sack given up?

Just feel like I read these stats often.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 07:37
by flapackfan
I personally think Walker days are numbered. He has value as a trade piece and is going to need a contract as a starting LT.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 07:59
by APB
flapackfan wrote:
11 Mar 2025 07:37
I personally think Walker days are numbered. He has value as a trade piece and is going to need a contract as a starting LT.
I agree although I wouldn’t be opposed to holding onto him through this final contract year and utilizing him as either 1) the starting LT or 2) quality backup swing tackle. If he earns the starter spot, great! That’ll be a higher comp pick next year when he signs on with another team as a starter level LT. If he’s relegated as backup swing tackle, he’ll provide quality insurance and/or quality play when called upon as the Packers march toward their 5th Super Bowl triumph.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 08:15
by Yoop
APB wrote:
11 Mar 2025 07:59
flapackfan wrote:
11 Mar 2025 07:37
I personally think Walker days are numbered. He has value as a trade piece and is going to need a contract as a starting LT.
I agree although I wouldn’t be opposed to holding onto him through this final contract year and utilizing him as either 1) the starting LT or 2) quality backup swing tackle. If he earns the starter spot, great! That’ll be a higher comp pick next year when he signs on with another team as a starter level LT. If he’s relegated as backup swing tackle, he’ll provide quality insurance and/or quality play when called upon as the Packers march toward their 5th Super Bowl triumph.
IMHO if WAlker had right side ability, he and Tom would have been switched last year, I don't see the swing tackle ability with Walker, RT has to have good run-blocking ability, and memory says that's WAlkers weakness, maybe you hit the nail on the head and we'll move him for a draft pick :idn:

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 08:58
by lupedafiasco
Id be surprised if Walker is traded. Offensive line is just too valuable to trade. Right now youre 6 deep so you have room for error or injury. That goes away if you move on from Walker.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 09:16
by musclestang
I'm leaning towards NOT trading away a serviceable LT. Like I said earlier, we could definitely do better, but we could do worse too. Every team seems to need to start less than desirable starters because there just aren't enough of them and injury always happens somewhere.

That said, even a serviceable LT can result in a pretty nice trade for a needy team, so I wouldn't put that idea on a shelf just yet.

Both possibilities are a definite outcome. He's good enough to keep around, he's also at a position where even around average can bring a better than average trade and we might not miss him that much. It's interesting to say the least. I lean towards keep, but nothing will surprise me with this.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 09:34
by NCF
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Mar 2025 08:58
Id be surprised if Walker is traded. Offensive line is just too valuable to trade. Right now youre 6 deep so you have room for error or injury. That goes away if you move on from Walker.
Unless there is a spectacular deal on the table, I agree. How about Rasheed for Nico Collins? :lol:

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 09:44
by go pak go
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Mar 2025 08:58
Id be surprised if Walker is traded. Offensive line is just too valuable to trade. Right now youre 6 deep so you have room for error or injury. That goes away if you move on from Walker.
Agreed. The amount of money that goes out to average to below average LTs is insane. Walker will get paid in 2026 which means we will likely get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for Walker.

The best option I could see on Walker being traded is in October at the deadline and a team is desperate and we are comfortable that Morgan is our guy.

Right now it is way too early to move Walker.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 09:59
by BF004
NCF wrote:
11 Mar 2025 09:34
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Mar 2025 08:58
Id be surprised if Walker is traded. Offensive line is just too valuable to trade. Right now youre 6 deep so you have room for error or injury. That goes away if you move on from Walker.
Unless there is a spectacular deal on the table, I agree. How about Rasheed for Nico Collins? :lol:
Jets could use a LT, we could use a Garrett Wilson.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 10:12
by lupedafiasco
go pak go wrote:
11 Mar 2025 09:44
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Mar 2025 08:58
Id be surprised if Walker is traded. Offensive line is just too valuable to trade. Right now youre 6 deep so you have room for error or injury. That goes away if you move on from Walker.
Agreed. The amount of money that goes out to average to below average LTs is insane. Walker will get paid in 2026 which means we will likely get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for Walker.

The best option I could see on Walker being traded is in October at the deadline and a team is desperate and we are comfortable that Morgan is our guy.

Right now it is way too early to move Walker.
I dont put too much stock into the compensatory picks under Gutenbumst. He signs players in FA to his credit for better or for worse. TT only looked to sign players that wouldnt factor into the equation more often than not like released players. Gutenbumst goes right after guys coming off their rookie deals that are young and ascending.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 10:56
by Pugger
I don't think you can have too many good OL. Our lack of depth at that position was glaringly obvious in the playoffs against Philly. We weren't all that hot on short yardage situations last season either.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 12:16
by NCF
I was thinking this earlier this morning.


Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 12:24
by APB
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Mar 2025 10:12
go pak go wrote:
11 Mar 2025 09:44
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Mar 2025 08:58
Id be surprised if Walker is traded. Offensive line is just too valuable to trade. Right now youre 6 deep so you have room for error or injury. That goes away if you move on from Walker.
Agreed. The amount of money that goes out to average to below average LTs is insane. Walker will get paid in 2026 which means we will likely get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for Walker.

The best option I could see on Walker being traded is in October at the deadline and a team is desperate and we are comfortable that Morgan is our guy.

Right now it is way too early to move Walker.
I dont put too much stock into the compensatory picks under Gutenbumst. He signs players in FA to his credit for better or for worse. TT only looked to sign players that wouldnt factor into the equation more often than not like released players. Gutenbumst goes right after guys coming off their rookie deals that are young and ascending.
I think he's conscious of the formula but he isn't ruled by it. For example, I don't think he'd go out of his way to screw up a potential R3 comp pick to sign a middling FA but I also don't think he'd hesitate to go after a guy he liked at the cost of a latter round pick.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 12:41
by Yoop
go pak go wrote:
11 Mar 2025 09:44
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Mar 2025 08:58
Id be surprised if Walker is traded. Offensive line is just too valuable to trade. Right now youre 6 deep so you have room for error or injury. That goes away if you move on from Walker.
Agreed. The amount of money that goes out to average to below average LTs is insane. Walker will get paid in 2026 which means we will likely get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for Walker.

The best option I could see on Walker being traded is in October at the deadline and a team is desperate and we are comfortable that Morgan is our guy.

Right now it is way too early to move Walker.
right, I forgot, it requires 3 seasons for our first round picks to even start, I need a frontal lobotomy :rotf:

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 13:00
by Madcity_matt
Pugger wrote:
11 Mar 2025 10:56
I don't think you can have too many good OL. Our lack of depth at that position was glaringly obvious in the playoffs against Philly. We weren't all that hot on short yardage situations last season either.
100%. We needed at least one more guy. Sign a guy and he should be ready tplug in. Draft a guy is a crapshoot for a team with a SB window. still in favor of drafting another with a 3/4/5 round pick.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 13:33
by go pak go
Yoop wrote:
11 Mar 2025 12:41
go pak go wrote:
11 Mar 2025 09:44
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Mar 2025 08:58
Id be surprised if Walker is traded. Offensive line is just too valuable to trade. Right now youre 6 deep so you have room for error or injury. That goes away if you move on from Walker.
Agreed. The amount of money that goes out to average to below average LTs is insane. Walker will get paid in 2026 which means we will likely get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for Walker.

The best option I could see on Walker being traded is in October at the deadline and a team is desperate and we are comfortable that Morgan is our guy.

Right now it is way too early to move Walker.
right, I forgot, it requires 3 seasons for our first round picks to even start, I need a frontal lobotomy :rotf:
Yes you do because if Morgan starts this year at LT like I suggested that would be starting after 1 season there bud.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 11 Mar 2025 23:54
by Pckfn23
4 years
$77M base value
$81.5M max value
$27M signing bonus
salaries $1.5M, $7.7M, $5.1M, $13.1M
$9.5M roster bonus 2026 3rd day lg yr
$9.5M roster bonus 2027 3rd day lg yr
$500K NFL Honors incentive 2028
$29,412 per game active roster bonus annual
$1.5M NFL Honors base escalator 2026 to 2028


Should we cut him before the 2025 games start we are out $27 Million, that is just north of 1/3 of the base value in guarantees.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 12 Mar 2025 00:31
by MY_TAKE
Well clearly Gute and MLF had their eye on this guy. He must fit what they want to do. If he works out even close to last years free agent acquisitions then we are golden. :aok:

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 12 Mar 2025 06:50
by go pak go
NCF wrote:
11 Mar 2025 12:16
I was thinking this earlier this morning.

Very much a real contract

Probably one of the realist contracts I've ever seen for a Packer.

Re: Packers Signing Aaron Banks, OG - 4 years, $77M

Posted: 12 Mar 2025 07:12
by APB
Pictures for the contractually ignorant, like me: