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Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 15:31
by BF004
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 15:23
BF004 wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 15:07
We beat those same Steelers, the Lions (maybe worst of the bunch) and
an overhyped, depleted 49er team and got beat pretty handily by the Saints. Well more than pretty handily, but wanted to copy your words.
To be fair, the 49ers lost their QB in that game, and the replacement played like garbage until garbage time. Their starter played against us. And despite talking heads and fans, their starter is a lot better than their backup.
Not sure what happened, but I meant we beat the 9ers and we got beat by the Saints
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 15:40
by go pak go
I think it's pretty early yet to try and compare strength of wins and losses. We honestly don't know who is separating themselves from the cream yet outside of going off last year records. (Like I think Seattle is going to surprise people on how bad their record is at the of the year)
All I know is this is an ascending team that is starting to believe in itself and if we want to be the team we expect to be we should still be able to win this thing as long as the defense can hold em under 27.
My goal is to hold the Bengals in that 20 - 24 range and Green Bay to put up 30+. Honestly I expect the Packers to produce 30 points every game.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 16:02
by Pckfn23
Going to watch this game as if it could go any way. Will be happy when we win, accepting if we lose.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 16:08
by YoHoChecko
BF004 wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 15:31
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 15:23
BF004 wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 15:07
We beat those same Steelers, the Lions (maybe worst of the bunch) and
an overhyped, depleted 49er team and got beat pretty handily by the Saints. Well more than pretty handily, but wanted to copy your words.
To be fair, the 49ers lost their QB in that game, and the replacement played like garbage until garbage time. Their starter played against us. And despite talking heads and fans, their starter is a lot better than their backup.
Not sure what happened, but I meant we beat the 9ers and we got beat by the Saints
Oh right. I'm bad at reading. But the 49ers last week were worse than the 49ers when they played us, because they played with a backup QB. That's what I meant, but that was not the Saints.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 16:17
by paco
Jenkins back at practice. Say he's ready to go, where does he play? LT and bench Nijman or LG and bench Runyan?
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 16:26
by go pak go
paco wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 16:17
Jenkins back at practice. Say he's ready to go, where does he play? LT and bench Nijman or LG and bench Runyan?
LT. No question.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 16:26
by Drj820
paco wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 16:17
Jenkins back at practice. Say he's ready to go, where does he play? LT and bench Nijman or LG and bench Runyan?
Great question. I wish I had some data on how Runyon has been doing. I would love to keep nijman outside until Bak comes back and put Jenkins back at his usual spot just to really beef up the run blocking. But if runyons played well it might be best go ahead and yosh back on the bench. I’ve just been really impressed with his efforts I think it could keep getting better
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 16:41
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 16:26
paco wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 16:17
Jenkins back at practice. Say he's ready to go, where does he play? LT and bench Nijman or LG and bench Runyan?
Great question. I wish I had some data on how Runyon has been doing. I would love to keep nijman outside until Bak comes back and put Jenkins back at his usual spot just to really beef up the run blocking. But if runyons played well it might be best go ahead and yosh back on the bench. I’ve just been really impressed with his efforts I think it could keep getting better
I hope Yosh stays out there and becomes our bonafide backup LT.
But I just doubt they do that.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 19:06
by lupedafiasco
You absolutely play Jenkins at LT. Yosh has been solid for a backup LT but there is a significant difference between him and Jenkins. It will help open up the offense as we shouldn’t have to be obligated to chip and help on that side every play.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 19:34
by Drj820
Josh Meyers two days in a row a DNP at practice
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 19:50
by lupedafiasco
Drj820 wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 19:34
Josh Meyers two days in a row a DNP at practice
It’s a finger injury. If he doesn’t play Sunday then the younger generation pussification has officially entered the NFL.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 19:53
by Labrev
MLF plays the best five, so it comes down to if he considers Yosh or JRJ the 5th best OL available.
I'm guessing it's JRJ. Yosh has played well but JRJ beat out a solid former starter.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 07 Oct 2021 19:55
by lupedafiasco
Labrev wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 19:53
MLF plays the best five, so it comes down to if he considers Yosh or JRJ the 5th best OL available.
I'm guessing it's JRJ. Yosh has played well but JRJ beat out a solid former starter.
Yeah but you play the best of your best 5 at LT.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 08 Oct 2021 08:00
by Pckfn23
DUMB...
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 08 Oct 2021 08:30
by go pak go
They NEED to get to a TV Deal where you can buy add on games to stream and bye pass any local market.
It's getting so ridiculous. With all the options out there. With all the speeds of Internet. We should be able to watch any game we please LIVE no matter what.
I still can't believe last week. When a person PAYS for NFL Sunday Ticket and still misses the whole 1st Quarter because Sunday Ticket says "my game is on my local channel and thus is blacked out" and yet my local channel is playing the Titans and Jets in OT for "bonus coverage". The same thing happened during week 1 too. It's almost a guaranteed given you are missing the 1st quarter when playing a 3:25 game because there is always one straggler noon game.
With all the money in this thing and all the money fans are willing and do pay. For the love of gawd, we should be able to watch our football games live and at our choosing.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 08 Oct 2021 08:37
by lupedafiasco
Reddit streams is the best way to go.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 08 Oct 2021 08:38
by NCF
go pak go wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021 08:30
They NEED to get to a TV Deal where you can buy add on games to stream and bye pass any local market.
It's getting so ridiculous. With all the options out there. With all the speeds of Internet. We should be able to watch any game we please LIVE no matter what.
I still can't believe last week. When a person PAYS for NFL Sunday Ticket and still misses the whole 1st Quarter because Sunday Ticket says "my game is on my local channel and thus is blacked out" and yet my local channel is playing the Titans and Jets in OT for "bonus coverage". The same thing happened during week 1 too. It's almost a guaranteed given you are missing the 1st quarter when playing a 3:25 game because there is always one straggler noon game.
With all the money in this thing and all the money fans are willing and do pay. For the love of gawd, we should be able to watch our football games live and at our choosing.
Absolutely every word of this. Screw the Every Team. Every Game. I want One Team. Every Game. Without fail. So do millions of others.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 08 Oct 2021 08:41
by BF004
go pak go wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 16:41
Drj820 wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 16:26
paco wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021 16:17
Jenkins back at practice. Say he's ready to go, where does he play? LT and bench Nijman or LG and bench Runyan?
Great question. I wish I had some data on how Runyon has been doing. I would love to keep nijman outside until Bak comes back and put Jenkins back at his usual spot just to really beef up the run blocking. But if runyons played well it might be best go ahead and yosh back on the bench. I’ve just been really impressed with his efforts I think it could keep getting better
I hope Yosh stays out there and becomes our bonafide backup LT.
But I just doubt they do that.
One thing that kind of sucks about Nijman, is maybe he could be our longterm RT, but he would need a contract the same time Billy Turner would need one. They restructured Turner's contract making him very likely to be on roster next year. So basically we would never get to benefit from Nijman being on a rookie contract as a starter.
Will be nice to have him the rest of this year, but not even a guarantee he'll be here next year. He'll be a restricted FA, the low tender I believe will be over $2 million, 2nd round tender (doubtful unless he plays a lot this year and really well) would be over 3 million.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 08 Oct 2021 08:45
by NCF
BF004 wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021 08:41
So basically we would never get to benefit from Nijman being on a rookie contract as a starter.
We have been very good at doing bridge deals with OL over the years. Might be a great candidate for that. Strong possibility we could get him at a discount versus waiting until UFA and it likely would save cap dollars next season. Of course this is all a big if the Packers see him as a long-term starter.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 08 Oct 2021 08:52
by go pak go
Yeah I think it should be pretty easy to bring back Yosh on a 1 or 2 year deal while we still have Bakh and Turner.
I mean this guy right now is still a backup quality LT. And we have also invested a lot of time and resource into him that I don't think he will be expensive.
I honestly thing our tackle situation looks pretty good for next year. I would say perhaps another Tackle (could be left or right) could be drafted early as a development guy for 2023, but otherwise our Oline is pretty solid next season.