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Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 15 Dec 2021 13:56
by RingoCStarrQB
TheSkeptic wrote:
15 Dec 2021 06:50
texas wrote:
15 Dec 2021 01:23
What's all this talk about needing guys to come back? The only player we need is Rodgers.

How do you think we won all these games already? :dunno:

We won Super Bowl 45 with like the most injuries in the league that year. Yes I would like Z and Bakhtiari and Jaire to come back, but this a good team with or without them.
Every team in the playoffs is good.
The ability of LaCoach and staff to outcoach the opponent's gameplan will likely be paramount in the playoffs again.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 15 Dec 2021 14:20
by texas
TheSkeptic wrote:
15 Dec 2021 06:50
texas wrote:
15 Dec 2021 01:23
What's all this talk about needing guys to come back? The only player we need is Rodgers.

How do you think we won all these games already? :dunno:

We won Super Bowl 45 with like the most injuries in the league that year. Yes I would like Z and Bakhtiari and Jaire to come back, but this a good team with or without them.
Every team in the playoffs is good.
That doesn't refute any of what I wrote.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 15 Dec 2021 14:22
by Pckfn23
Then why haven't we won it all 8 times since 2010??? 8-)

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 15 Dec 2021 14:23
by Yoop
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
15 Dec 2021 13:56
TheSkeptic wrote:
15 Dec 2021 06:50
texas wrote:
15 Dec 2021 01:23
What's all this talk about needing guys to come back? The only player we need is Rodgers.

How do you think we won all these games already? :dunno:

We won Super Bowl 45 with like the most injuries in the league that year. Yes I would like Z and Bakhtiari and Jaire to come back, but this a good team with or without them.
Every team in the playoffs is good.
The ability of LaCoach and staff to outcoach the opponent's gameplan will likely be paramount in the playoffs again.
I remember coaches saying the first 15 or so scripted plays are designed to expose the defense, then adjust to the weaknesses those plays exposed, I think often this year that is what we've seen, we start slow figuring that stuff out, adjust, and it's like we flipped a switch and move the ball, in fact at times when the run is gouging them we look near unstoppable, then we mix in the passing and build 2 score leads, most of the time our opponents are playing catch up ball, and according to Matt and Aaron this offense has yet to kick in the after burners. :aok:

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 15 Dec 2021 18:06
by RingoCStarrQB
Yoop wrote:
15 Dec 2021 14:23
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
15 Dec 2021 13:56
TheSkeptic wrote:
15 Dec 2021 06:50


Every team in the playoffs is good.
The ability of LaCoach and staff to outcoach the opponent's gameplan will likely be paramount in the playoffs again.
I remember coaches saying the first 15 or so scripted plays are designed to expose the defense, then adjust to the weaknesses those plays exposed, I think often this year that is what we've seen, we start slow figuring that stuff out, adjust, and it's like we flipped a switch and move the ball, in fact at times when the run is gouging them we look near unstoppable, then we mix in the passing and build 2 score leads, most of the time our opponents are playing catch up ball, and according to Matt and Aaron this offense has yet to kick in the after burners. :aok:
It has certainly been frustrating watching the Packers slow offensive starts in some of the games. Holmgren was a scripted play guy ..... can't recall if Sherman or McCoach did that or not. Does LaCoach play the scripted game or not ? :idn:

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 16 Dec 2021 07:41
by NCF
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
15 Dec 2021 18:06
It has certainly been frustrating watching the Packers slow offensive starts in some of the games. Holmgren was a scripted play guy ..... can't recall if Sherman or McCoach did that or not. Does LaCoach play the scripted game or not ?
They all did and LaFleur does, too. LaFleur seems to be feeling some things out early in games and/or setting up things later rather than selecting plays he thinks will actually be successful. It has been pretty frustrating watching his scripts unfold this season, TBH.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 20 Dec 2021 04:24
by go pak go
A big day for GB yeterrday in the playoff situation.

1. Green Bay Clinches the NFC North - GB is the first team to clinch a playoff spot. :banana: :banana:

2. Arizona and Tampa lost - this means GB is getting closer to having a mulligan for the #1 seed. I just checked what would happen if GB, DAL, TB and LAR were in a 4 way tie.

4 Way Tie at 4 losses - Dallas wins Tiebreaker
3 Way Tie at 4 losses - Dallas win Tiebreaker
3 Way Tie with Dallas having 5 losses and everyone else at 4 losses (including either LAR or AZ) - GB wins tiebreaker.

So ultimately GB wins tiebreakers over every team except Dallas.

Clinching Scenarios for the #1 seed

Green Bay
1. Green Bay - Win out
2. Green Bay - Win 2 out of 3 with a Dallas loss

Dallas
1. Dallas - Win out plus GB loss

A lot needs to happen for the other teams. Dallas's remaining schedule is the following:
1. Washington
2. Arizona
3. at Philly

Philly and Washington are still right in the thick of the playoff race.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 20 Dec 2021 07:39
by APB
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dallas lose two of their next three. They’ve been winning lately but they haven’t looked “good” doing it.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 20 Dec 2021 07:49
by go pak go
APB wrote:
20 Dec 2021 07:39
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dallas lose two of their next three. They’ve been winning lately but they haven’t looked “good” doing it.
The Cowboys to me are the weirdest team in the NFC. They are honestly a really poorly reffed game vs Vegas away from being the #1 seed (though honestly we should have beaten KC and MN too). Their offense can put up serious points at any time but then also go through streaks of nothings. Their defense conventionally is the weakness of that team and yet their defense is playing lights out right now.

I think Dallas the most talented team right now for Green Bay. But putting it together will be their task.

Honestly if Jake Fromm started instead of Glennon yesterday, I think the Giants win that game. Glennon was absolutely terrible.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 20 Dec 2021 09:21
by BF004
This is quite nutty

Cleveland and Minnesota gunna come to play next two weeks.

Like our chances a lot in both at home. But gunna be dog fights. Those Cleveland pass rushers against our scrub tackles scare me.

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Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 06:24
by go pak go
So here is the NFC Playoff Picture after Week 15:

Division Leaders

1. :packers: - Green Bay Packers (11-3) *Clinched NFC North - Plays :browns:
2. :cowboys: - Dallas Cowboys (10-4) - Plays :footballteam:
3. :buccaneers: - Tampa Bay Bucs (10-4) - Plays @ :panthers:
4. :cardinals: - Arizona Cardinals (10-4) - Plays :colts:

Wildcard Teams

5. :rams: - LA Rams - (10-4) - Plays :vikings:
6. :49ers: - San Francisco 49ers (8-6) - Plays @ :titans:
7. :vikings: - Minnesota Vikings (7-7) - Plays @ :rams:

In the Huntj

8. :saints: - New Orleans Saints (7-7) - Plays :dolphins:
9. :eagles: - Philly Eagles (7-7) - Plays :giants:
10. :footballteam: - Washington (6-8) - Plays @ :cowboys:
11. :falcons: - Atlanta Falcons (6-8) - Plays :lions:

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 06:30
by go pak go
Clinching Scenarios for Week 16:

Division Clinching:
1. Dallas clinches NFC East with win OR Eagles loss
2. Tampa Bay clinches NFC South with win OR Saints loss


Playoff Berth Clinching
3. Arizona clinches a playoff berth with win OR 2 of MN, PHI, NO loss
4. LA Rams clinches a playoff berth with win OR PHI and NO loss

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 07:57
by Raptorman
go pak go wrote:
22 Dec 2021 06:24
So here is the NFC Playoff Picture after Week 15:

Division Leaders

1. :packers: - Green Bay Packers (11-3) *Clinched NFC North - Plays :browns:
2. :cowboys: - Dallas Cowboys (10-4) - Plays :footballteam:
3. :buccaneers: - Tampa Bay Bucs (10-4) - Plays @ :panthers:
4. :cardinals: - Arizona Cardinals (10-4) - Plays :colts:

Wildcard Teams

5. :rams: - LA Rams - (10-4) - Plays :vikings:
6. :49ers: - San Francisco 49ers (8-6) - Plays @ :titans:
7. :vikings: - Minnesota Vikings (7-7) - Plays @ :rams:

In the Huntj

8. :saints: - New Orleans Saints (7-7) - Plays :dolphins:
9. :eagles: - Philly Eagles (7-7) - Plays :giants:
10. :footballteam: - Washington (6-8) - Plays @ :cowboys:
11. :falcons: - Atlanta Falcons (6-8) - Plays :lions:
Between WTF, Eagles, Saints, Niners, Cardinals, Rams, and Vikings three of those teams will make the playoffs. The Rams and Cardinals could in theory still miss the playoffs entirely.

The NFC teams won't be decided until the final week.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 08:56
by YoHoChecko
The Saints and Eagles have pretty easy schedules to make a push. Minny has the Rams and then us. Gonna be interesting, for sure.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 09:01
by RingoCStarrQB
go pak go wrote:
22 Dec 2021 06:24
So here is the NFC Playoff Picture after Week 15:

Division Leaders

1. :packers: - Green Bay Packers (11-3) *Clinched NFC North - Plays :browns:
2. :cowboys: - Dallas Cowboys (10-4) - Plays :footballteam:
3. :buccaneers: - Tampa Bay Bucs (10-4) - Plays @ :panthers:
4. :cardinals: - Arizona Cardinals (10-4) - Plays :colts:

Wildcard Teams

5. :rams: - LA Rams - (10-4) - Plays :vikings:
6. :49ers: - San Francisco 49ers (8-6) - Plays @ :titans:
7. :vikings: - Minnesota Vikings (7-7) - Plays @ :rams:

In the Huntj

8. :saints: - New Orleans Saints (7-7) - Plays :dolphins:
9. :eagles: - Philly Eagles (7-7) - Plays :giants:
10. :footballteam: - Washington (6-8) - Plays @ :cowboys:
11. :falcons: - Atlanta Falcons (6-8) - Plays :lions:
Well here's who I'm rooting for Week 16:
Lions (because they're the Lions) 8-) :lions:
Packers (of course .... bring back the title to Titletown) :beer2: :packers:
Rams (only cuz they're not the Vikings) :swear: :rams:
Colts (only cuz they're a harmless AFC team.....at least for now. And I am not a fan of the 2nd coming of Doug Flutie) :P :colts:
Hogs (cuz they're not the Cowboys, Eagles or Giants, and cuz they're the Hogs) :footballteam:
Panthers (only because there is barely a snowball's chance that the Saints could get in by winning the South :messedup: Oh, and I root for the Saints whenever they're not playing the Packers .... love the Saints fan's spirit and the city of New Orleans ) :panthers:
Titans (cuz they're not the Niners) :banana: :titans:

Full disclosure re-cap:
1) Get the BYE Week Green Bay! :packers:
2) In the NFC East I only ever root for the Hogs. I'll just leave it at that for now. :footballteam:
3) I generally have sympathy for the Lions (its been awhile ......... 1957. Lions have 8 straight playoff losses and are 7-13 all time in the playoffs. Don't know if Lions fans are good, jerks, and/or respectful or not (does anyone know?)
Lions won 3 NFL championships in the 1950s) :lions:

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 26 Dec 2021 18:29
by YoHoChecko
If the Packers win out and claim the 1-seed,
then the Saints sneak into the playoffs and pull off a round one upset
then the Packers beat the Saints, and win again to advance the Super Bowl,
and then beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl...

..we would be 17-3 Super Bowl champions with redemption wins over each of the three teams to have defeated us

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 26 Dec 2021 19:30
by Cdragon
go pak go wrote:
20 Dec 2021 07:49
APB wrote:
20 Dec 2021 07:39
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dallas lose two of their next three. They’ve been winning lately but they haven’t looked “good” doing it.
The Cowboys to me are the weirdest team in the NFC. They are honestly a really poorly reffed game vs Vegas away from being the #1 seed (though honestly we should have beaten KC and MN too). Their offense can put up serious points at any time but then also go through streaks of nothings. Their defense conventionally is the weakness of that team and yet their defense is playing lights out right now.

I think Dallas the most talented team right now for Green Bay. But putting it together will be their task.

Honestly if Jake Fromm started instead of Glennon yesterday, I think the Giants win that game. Glennon was absolutely terrible.
Their D has been getting huge props for playing some lousy O's Giants, WFT, Saints. They'll probably get stomped in the playoffs before they get to us.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 26 Dec 2021 22:58
by wallyuwl
Rams and MM's team are only serious threats right now. Maybe Bucs but they aren't playing well even with winning (though same could be said of Packers, but Brady is not currently in the same tier as AR).

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 27 Dec 2021 08:23
by BF004
wallyuwl wrote:
26 Dec 2021 22:58
Rams and MM's team are only serious threats right now. Maybe Bucs but they aren't playing well even with winning (though same could be said of Packers, but Brady is not currently in the same tier as AR).
Meh, we've done the thing where we've peaked in like week 13-16 before, that level of play usually not sustainable through January.

Still a matter of timing to be peaking at the right time, say January.

No one would say we are peaking, I will still view the Bucs as are toughest competition come mid January.

Re: Playoff Seeding

Posted: 27 Dec 2021 08:46
by go pak go
I view nobody as our toughest competition. I think any of the top 5 seeds can compete with us.

That being said, I think we also can compete and beat anyone out there if the Packers play a B game or better. I too won't get too much into who is "hot right now".

Mid January - mid February is still a long ways away.