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Yeah I think it was more so they had a hope that maybe it would be different when her got on the field. They however did the right thing with the contract because all evidence was he wasn't going to be the guy.
Oh I am sure they had an "idea" of what they had. What remained to be seen is what they have in extended meaningful action.
who's lying to you? 70% of the QB position is mental, and no one knows how to read a players mind, thats why Thompson took Bro ham and Flynn, your just looking for something to !@#$ and moan about and assign some blame.
im probably defending Love the most by saying I would give him a full year to figure out. So back off me. Im just pushing back at your constant lie that the staff didnt know what they had until he stepped on the field. They had an idea. That idea gave them the optimism to hand him the starting job, and the pessimism to not sign him to a 5th year option. I think they think like me...give him the whole year, and draft someone else if he sucks.Yoop wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 14:37who's lying to you? 70% of the QB position is mental, and no one knows how to read a players mind, thats why Thompson took Bro ham and Flynn, your just looking for something to !@#$ and moan about and assign some blame.
no one is liking this, but at least some of us understand whats going on, are you still on some Rodgers trip looking to send the I told you so message?
If so, do yourself a favor and get over the past, bringing that stuff up solves nothing, have a good day, you owe that to yourself.
what evidence was that, in the first 2 games this year almost the entire football geek squad raved about Love, he made quick decisions, was mostly accurate, and performed like a very good field general, then we had several Injury's and the pass rush/ free rushers started to rattle Love, it got even worse the next two games.
The problem with having a guy like Rodgers on the team for close to 20 years is that he is so good that he makes playing the position look easy. People start to think that anybody could have made that read, made that audible, played the season with a broken thumb, etc.. "Anybody can do it, just be able to take a snap." Well hell, even my wrinkly old ass can take a snap- maybe I have a shot at the job too!
the only person lying here is YOU, you wont listen to reason, NO ONE can know how a QB will do till after they start a hand full of games, if they could then there would be no need to trade up into top 10 slot range to get one, and those guys would pan out, however most don't.Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 14:41im probably defending Love the most by saying I would give him a full year to figure out. So back off me. Im just pushing back at your constant lie that the staff didnt know what they had until he stepped on the field. They had an idea. That idea gave them the optimism to hand him the starting job, and the pessimism to not sign him to a 5th year option. I think they think like me...give him the whole year, and draft someone else if he sucks.Yoop wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 14:37who's lying to you? 70% of the QB position is mental, and no one knows how to read a players mind, thats why Thompson took Bro ham and Flynn, your just looking for something to !@#$ and moan about and assign some blame.
no one is liking this, but at least some of us understand whats going on, are you still on some Rodgers trip looking to send the I told you so message?
If so, do yourself a favor and get over the past, bringing that stuff up solves nothing, have a good day, you owe that to yourself.
As you have seen, many here think Rodgers and Love were equal players last season and our record would have been the same if Rodgers was not on the team. It is mind boggling to me, but hopefully rodgers will gain respect around the forum as time goes on.Papa John wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 14:52The problem with having a guy like Rodgers on the team for close to 20 years is that he is so good that he makes playing the position look easy. People start to think that anybody could have made that read, made that audible, played the season with a broken thumb, etc.. "Anybody can do it, just be able to take a snap." Well hell, even my wrinkly old ass can take a snap- maybe I have a shot at the job too!
Guess we're finding out that playing QB in the NFL actually isn't that easy.
100% spot on.Papa John wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 14:52The problem with having a guy like Rodgers on the team for close to 20 years is that he is so good that he makes playing the position look easy. People start to think that anybody could have made that read, made that audible, played the season with a broken thumb, etc.. "Anybody can do it, just be able to take a snap." Well hell, even my wrinkly old ass can take a snap- maybe I have a shot at the job too!
Guess we're finding out that playing QB in the NFL actually isn't that easy.
and they all know who they are, lol hoping they'll admit it though, well life is to short for thatDrj820 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 14:58As you have seen, many here think Rodgers and Love were equal players last season and our record would have been the same if Rodgers was not on the team. It is mind boggling to me, but hopefully rodgers will gain respect around the forum as time goes on.Papa John wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 14:52The problem with having a guy like Rodgers on the team for close to 20 years is that he is so good that he makes playing the position look easy. People start to think that anybody could have made that read, made that audible, played the season with a broken thumb, etc.. "Anybody can do it, just be able to take a snap." Well hell, even my wrinkly old ass can take a snap- maybe I have a shot at the job too!
Guess we're finding out that playing QB in the NFL actually isn't that easy.
Exactly.Yoop wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 15:30Eventually, that luck ran out and Love put on a display of why the Packers have to continue to be worried about where this is going. With just under two minutes left and Green Bay facing a third-and-20, Love took a snap and locked onto Samori Toure on a deep vertical route, throwing into double coverage for an easy interception. What he missed on the same play was a streaking Reed who had gotten behind safety help and a leaking running back in the left flat who had a shot to run to run for a first down. Instead, Love took the worst option and the game was over
wise moneyMY_TAKE wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 15:46Exactly.Yoop wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 15:30Eventually, that luck ran out and Love put on a display of why the Packers have to continue to be worried about where this is going. With just under two minutes left and Green Bay facing a third-and-20, Love took a snap and locked onto Samori Toure on a deep vertical route, throwing into double coverage for an easy interception. What he missed on the same play was a streaking Reed who had gotten behind safety help and a leaking running back in the left flat who had a shot to run to run for a first down. Instead, Love took the worst option and the game was over
OFf topic a bit but In one of my Prop parlay bets I took the passing yards under 240.5 yds for Love and under 50.5 yards receiving for Watson. I would have loved (no pun intended) to lose. IT was only 20 bucks. Point is, I have lost complete confidence in what this team is on offense. Their basically the worst offense in the league. Easy money until Vegas catches on. I have already placed a bet next week and took the under on Loves passing yardage. Trust me ....I would rather lose the 20 bucks but its not smart to bet otherwise at this point.
Gutekunst shouldn't get a chance to turn the page if Love isn't the guy but should be fired for drafting him in the first place.BF004 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 08:01If Love isn’t the guy, it is considerably better he show it right away so we can move on.
We don’t want to get stuck in a Daniel Jones limbo.
Gute needs to be willing to turn the page if he needs to, swallow some pride. Chiefs moved away from a pro bowl QB in Alex Smith. The Rams moved away from a qb that got them to the SB. The 49ers were willing to move off a QB that got them to the SB and another QB they put 3 firsts into. Gotta be willing to make the hard decisions that seems like the long road sometimes.
I don’t know if we are there yet, frankly don’t think we need to really think about it all that much for 11 more games thankfully.
There were rumors that MLF desperately wanted Rodgers to return for this season.
Love benefitted from a good game plan over the first two games. There were a lot of wide open receivers, unfortunately that has been missing over the past few games.Yoop wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023 14:47what evidence was that, in the first 2 games this year almost the entire football geek squad raved about Love, he made quick decisions, was mostly accurate, and performed like a very good field general, then we had several Injury's and the pass rush/ free rushers started to rattle Love, it got even worse the next two games.
see I think it's more in depth then just that, sure some of it can be blamed on Lafleur and his game schemes, but Lafleur didn't all of a sudden forget how to scheme receivers open, imo the players, receivers are just as much to blame, along with this atrocious OL, I'am convinced that pass rush ruins more young QB's then anything else, and thats because i've seen so many young QB's ruined do to it, it gets in a QB's psyche, we are now seeing Jordan abandon the pocket at times when the rush isn't even close, and thats because it occupies his thought process.CWIMM wrote: ↑24 Oct 2023 04:24Yoop wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:47 pm
what evidence was that, in the first 2 games this year almost the entire football geek squad raved about Love, he made quick decisions, was mostly accurate, and performed like a very good field general, then we had several Injury's and the pass rush/ free rushers started to rattle Love, it got even worse the next two games.
Love benefitted from a good game plan over the first two games. There were a lot of wide open receivers, unfortunately that has been missing over the past few games.
just a poor decision, again.