go pak go wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 06:58
Yoop wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 06:34
go pak go wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 05:59
Can we pump the brakes on this whole Godgers thing until he actually becomes Godgers again?
The guy had two opportunities on his own to win this game and he couldn't do it.
MVPs win you games. MVPs show up when it counts. This is as much Rodgers's offense as it MLF's offense.
When it's 3rd and 8 and the Colts allow Tonyan to get a cutback right at the chains....throw the ball to the chains. Don't underthrow the ball and make Tonyan come back a yard to not move the chains.
When you have 50 seconds left and you get the ball to Adams inside the 10.....don't spike it. Call a quick play and at least get the opportunity to give yourself a shot in the back of the endzone.
When it's 3rd down and you have a shot to win the game...win the game. Find the open TE and don't stare down one WR.
If we had Godgers yesterday, we would be 8-2.
debatable, the receiver is tasked with setting up for the QB to throw to him, I didn't see Tonyun come back for the ball, Rodgers threw it where only Robert could catch it, you bitch about Rodgers every time he doesn't carry this team toi victory, Rodgers didn't call the plays in the 2nd half, didn't plant Jones on the bench for most of it either, Lafluer called a terrible 2nd half and all you want to do is bitch about about the QB's inability to over come that, no QB makes every throw, see's every open receiver, or is able to over come his own or all the other players mistakes, your just looking for a scape goat, and as usual it's Rodgers.
If we had given Jones 20 touches we would be 8-2
I have many posts here saying this was a total team effort loss.
I have to bring up the Rodgers thing because over and over and over and over again this forum and Packers fans as a whole give our playmakers such a pass. They can never do any wrong. Instead it's always everybody else's fault.
Rodgers said himself he wish he got that 3rd down back. Do you not agree that if we are going to anoint him MVP and we are going to call him Godgers that he should win the game when he had two opportunities to do it?
Isn't that what MVPs do? Isn't that what Godgers would do?
And I get the whole Aaron Jones needs more touches. I absolutely do. But to get those touches, we need to get that first, first down in the 2nd half. We go through these spurts where we can' convert 3rd and 4 or less and we go on spurts on the other side where we can't get off the field on 3rd and 8 or longer and as a result we have 6 plays in the 2nd half until 5 minutes to go.
It's a recipe to lose football.
But playmakers make plays. Even when everything is crashing around them. And Rodgers didn't do it. I'm not blaming him. I'm not yelling at him. But I am saying let's pump the brakes on the whole Godgers thing because Godgers would have won that game. But Rodgers didn't win that game.
He is not Godgers.
You're correct on many points. It is a total team game, players and coaches. For the past few weeks we've heard about handling adversity. Well, yesterday was a game full of it, and the Packers didn't handle it well.
We keep talking about keeping this team together and thinking of ways to pay for player X. Some on here say this team has the talent to win it all.
But I ask, what good is talent if it's not used?
We know Preston Smith can play, we've seen it, we know Savage has all of the physical tools. We know they can play great in spurts. But we also know they can disappear in the blink of an eye.
The question is, why do these players lay down and play lazy football? Why do they sleepwalk for entire halves of games?
Why do coaches who know what they're own weaknesses are, allow other teams to exploit them?
For the most part, the Packers have played in a pretty weak division over the past 10 or so years. They've had some nice records over those years. But when it comes to standing out among the top teams in the league, they have come up short.
I don't know if LaFluer is the guy to lead them to the top. He doesn't come across as someone who can kick some of these players in the ass, which is exactly what they need.
Changes need to be made. I understand that moves during the season are not going to happen. But come day one after they're season is over, start showing some of these coaches the door.
I've said before, don't like people getting fired, but these guys make a good buck and are expected to have they're position groups ready for anything. What I see now, is a bunch of guys looking lost in key moments of games. That is what coaches are supposed to correct, at least the good ones do.
I'm not calling for MLF to be let go. But he picked most of the coaches, and more than a few have been less than stellar. If he doesn't make changes after seeing them fail, then he's not much of a leader.
