Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers
Posted: 13 Nov 2023 12:39
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Previous Steeler point production - 7, 26, 23, 6,17, 24, 10, 20German_Panzer wrote: ↑12 Nov 2023 15:45Still held them to 23 which is alright for me.Pugger wrote: ↑12 Nov 2023 15:42How many yards rushing did the Steelers get today?German_Panzer wrote: ↑12 Nov 2023 15:15I second that. The Steelers are a winning team and we were in it. We „just“ lack … talent. I am still open about Love, sometimes his throws look , sometimes . Our defense does alright too. It is the offense that is hurting us at this point.
Looks to me like Love thinks Musgrave is going to stay running down the hash lines but while the ball is in the air Musgrave starts drifting towards the middle and has to adjust to the ball. If Musgrave stayed running down the hash he catches it in stride. This is the learning curve they are going through. We don't know if Musgrave adjusted his route towards the middle and was designed to stay on the hash or if Love thought he would adjust to the hash to avoid going towards the safety.
That is something that could be as well. Love could have expected Musgrave to take that vertical at the hash.packman114 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 15:13
Looks to me like Love thinks Musgrave is going to stay running down the hash lines but while the ball is in the air Musgrave starts drifting towards the middle and has to adjust to the ball. If Musgrave stayed running down the hash he catches it in stride.
course it was short, possibly footwork issue, sure, but it was still short, when you see receivers doing 180's to make the catch, obviously the ball wasn't thrown far enough, or did it led Musgrave, I don't have a issue defending Love, but I wont defend his lack of accuracy, over and over , week after week, sorry
A 180 means it is behind the receiver. Musgrave also caught it above his head. Not short.Yoop wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 15:58course it was short, possibly footwork issue, sure, but it was still short, when you see receivers doing 180's to make the catch, obviously the ball wasn't thrown far enough, I don't have a issue defending Love, but I wont defend his lack of accuracy, over and over , week after week, sorry
if Love would have led Musgrave which was the first fail, he could have put the ball deeper and Musgrave could have caught it in stride, and possibly got another 10 yrds out of that play, maybe more.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 16:01A 180 means it is behind the receiver. Musgrave also caught it above his head. Not short.Yoop wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 15:58course it was short, possibly footwork issue, sure, but it was still short, when you see receivers doing 180's to make the catch, obviously the ball wasn't thrown far enough, I don't have a issue defending Love, but I wont defend his lack of accuracy, over and over , week after week, sorry
The last sentence in my post specifically pointed to bad footwork leading to an errant pass.
Do you know what the word errant means? I suspect you do not since the word completely proves your theory wrong.Yoop wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 16:08if Love would have led Musgrave which was the first fail, he could have put the ball deeper and Musgrave could have caught it in stride, and possibly got another 10 yrds out of that play, maybe more.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 16:01A 180 means it is behind the receiver. Musgrave also caught it above his head. Not short.Yoop wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 15:58
course it was short, possibly footwork issue, sure, but it was still short, when you see receivers doing 180's to make the catch, obviously the ball wasn't thrown far enough, I don't have a issue defending Love, but I wont defend his lack of accuracy, over and over , week after week, sorry
The last sentence in my post specifically pointed to bad footwork leading to an errant pass.
the only way it wasn't underthrown is do to the poor throw which forced Musgrave to cut his progress and turn around to make the catch, your defending Love making a poor throw to support in your opinion that it wasn't under thrown.
read what I wrote, I said I, thats me, wont continue to defend Love, never mentioned you.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 16:10Do you know what the word errant means? I suspect you do not since the word completely proves your theory wrong.Yoop wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 16:08if Love would have led Musgrave which was the first fail, he could have put the ball deeper and Musgrave could have caught it in stride, and possibly got another 10 yrds out of that play, maybe more.
the only way it wasn't underthrown is do to the poor throw which forced Musgrave to cut his progress and turn around to make the catch, your defending Love making a poor throw to support in your opinion that it wasn't under thrown.
Where did I defend Love making a poor throw? I support reality, nothing more. It was behind Musgrave, not a short throw.
I don't have to reread what you wrote, your last sentence shows what you are getting at. What slack? Do you know what errant means? Do you realize I have been blaming Love for an inaccurate pass this entire time?Yoop wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 16:22read what I wrote, I said I, thats me, wont continue to defend Love, never mentioned you.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 16:10Do you know what the word errant means? I suspect you do not since the word completely proves your theory wrong.Yoop wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 16:08
if Love would have led Musgrave which was the first fail, he could have put the ball deeper and Musgrave could have caught it in stride, and possibly got another 10 yrds out of that play, maybe more.
the only way it wasn't underthrown is do to the poor throw which forced Musgrave to cut his progress and turn around to make the catch, your defending Love making a poor throw to support in your opinion that it wasn't under thrown.
Where did I defend Love making a poor throw? I support reality, nothing more. It was behind Musgrave, not a short throw.
jesus christ you are frustrating, Love could have led that ball out 3 to 5 feet Farther and Musgrave would have caught it in stride, course it was under thrown, and poorly thrown.
whats real is you would have never have cut Rodgers this slack
I would agree with your point that Barry probably feels like he is vulnerable on the back end, so he floods the back end with DBs and LBs. But when your major arteries are already gashed, you don't over-protect for what MIGHT occur. You deal with the bleeding now and then see what you can do to protect the rest. Or at least mix it up and force the QB to make changes on the field.Yoop wrote: ↑13 Nov 2023 06:09there are always some sort of defense for Joe Barry, either the secondary is weak do to injury's or we play a hot QB/receiver team and have to play the nickel package, theirs always excuses, it's true we had to play both tines yesterday, both Balentine and Valentine did there part though, still Barry must have lacked enough faith in them to play a heavy front and dedicate himself to stopping the run.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑12 Nov 2023 18:54Lupe, no. Stop it. Did you count how many plays we had the 2-man front Nascar out there today? Joe didn't even care to stop the run.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑12 Nov 2023 17:26
Gotta stop blaming DCs for systemic problems.
Fans have blamed 3 straight DCs now for not being able to stop the run.
Think about this. The Steelers prefer to run the ball a lot. And they are decent at it too. So, we're on their field and we pull out that 2-man front like 80% of the time? Seriously? I wish I had an actual count of how many snaps, including third and short plays. Joe did NOT want to stop the run.
Was he too worried about needing max coverage on the back end, with Quay and Jaire out? Maybe.
Did he really think that Pickett was going to pass us to death? Give me a break.
This one game is the one where I pull the plug on Joe Barry. Get him outta there! Never soon enough.
I'd like to see us completely restock the defensive coaching, bring in a established DC prospect and let him bring in his assistants, and let him run that, with zero interference from Lafleur, who has all he can do prepping this offense