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Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:37
by YoHoChecko
Of all the guys we released, King is the only one I'm actually, like concerned someone else might grab him and we lose him.
DuBose and Pratt very well may have futures in this league if developed and given opportunity (and it still might come with us if here), but those are positions where the roster is pretty set so oh well.
But King as a viable nickel alternative if/when Nixon leaves or gets injured or gets benched... that was something I thought was too valuable to risk.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:38
by texas
That sucks about Dillon.
RB room seems like a clear downgrade from last season.
Just not a believer in Jacobs yet but that could quickly change
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:42
by Labrev
There is another tier of busts below Dillon, IMO. Dillon was at least an okay player through his rookie contract, which is a lot more than can be said for some of those guys. Definitely Gute's worst Round 2 pick, second only to Josh Jackson.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:45
by NCF
Feel like this should have been given more consideration. Any time neck or spine and second time are in the same sentence it is never good.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:48
by texas
1978
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:50
by YoHoChecko
NCF wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024 15:45
Feel like this should have been given more consideration. Any time neck or spine and second time are in the same sentence it is never good.
I wondered about it but let the lack of media consideration and discussion of it assuage my doubts without ever voicing them. I figured with how connected Dillon is with the community, this is the kind of thing that reporters would know about but on background and not be able to "report" it but would have whispers about it informing their conversations.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:54
by lake shark
Pretty surprised they kept Oladapo and Anderson - hope neither has to ever play in the secondary. Would have rather kept Welch. Quay and McDuffie are frequently injured.
King was not that great. He was a willing tackler but that was about it.
What was Tyler Davis year long injury for the second year in a row?
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:54
by Papa John
Spriggs was worst, possibly Brohm. And I am demonstrating humility by admitting that because I was an absolute Spriggs advocate during that draft.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 15:58
by APB
I wish I was Tyler Davis.
Go through a few practices before it gets too hot, get injured, get paid rest of the season (2 years running) for doing nothing.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 16:12
by YoHoChecko
I cannot make sense of having core STers in Anderson and Welch and not letting defensive acumen be a tie-breaker between the two.
It's almost like they gave Rich discretion to pick one STer of his own without any consideration to play from scrimmage
None of this really matters. It's like the value of a 7th round pick. But I can't imagine some of these close call difficult cut guys getting a look at the final roster and seeing Zayne Anderson's name on the final list over them and not breaking whatever is closest to them.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 16:14
by BF004
Feel like Josh Jacobs fantasy value just went up. Incumbent back to IR, 3rd round rookie hurt all TC and preseason, just a 2nd year UDRFA who's gunna be healthy up to speed.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 21:04
by Drj820
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024 15:50
NCF wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024 15:45
Feel like this should have been given more consideration. Any time neck or spine and second time are in the same sentence it is never good.
I wondered about it but let the lack of media consideration and discussion of it assuage my doubts without ever voicing them. I figured with how connected Dillon is with the community, this is the kind of thing that reporters would know about but on background and not be able to "report" it but would have whispers about it informing their conversations.
I blame blogger Andy
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 21:08
by Drj820
Labrev wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024 15:42
There is another tier of busts below Dillon, IMO. Dillon was at least an okay player through his rookie contract, which is a lot more than can be said for some of those guys. Definitely Gute's worst Round 2 pick, second only to Josh Jackson.
See, there are guys that contributed way less and never even got on the field probably!! But they were most likely swings at premium positions. What shoots Dillon to the top of the bust rankings is that he was:
1) The second backup drafted in two picks lol. Like he was drafted to take off right now! To replace Jones, and he busted out on that transition plan.
2) he’s a running back! You can find em in the 4th or 7th or at wal mart! Drafting in second implied he should be a pro bowler!
And by the way, speaking of busts, Jordan Love is the only player left on the team from the entire 2020 draft class.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 21:32
by Cdragon
texas wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024 15:48
1978
72 Chester Marcol 34th pick.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 21:59
by Pckfn23
Over the years I have very much noticed our perception of the team during the preseason is VERY much colored by the beat reporters. They do tend to group think more lately than was the case in the past. They will latch onto certain players during this period and really push the perception that they are better or worse than they are and/or the coaches think they are. Other than preseason games or going to practice ourselves, we have no real exposure to these guys that doesn't come from the beat reporters. So, me personally, I don't get too tied in knots over the bottom 7 or 8 guys.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 27 Aug 2024 23:07
by lupedafiasco
BF004 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024 16:14
Feel like Josh Jacobs fantasy value just went up. Incumbent back to IR, 3rd round rookie hurt all TC and preseason, just a 2nd year UDRFA who's gunna be healthy up to speed.
Oh yeah. And I ate up all the Jacobs fantasy value last weekend. I think he’s gonna be my Saquan Barkley value from 2 years ago and he’s everyone thought he was done and he smashes.
I think if Jacobs is healthy is an easy 50+ catch and double digit TD machine.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 28 Aug 2024 09:04
by YoHoChecko
Useful general information about how things work and specific information about how AJ Dillon hits the cap
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 28 Aug 2024 09:58
by musclestang
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024 08:55
Oh wow the kicker news right out of the gate! (reportedly)
I was hoping Jones would show improvement when he returned form injury but he consistently moved down the depth chart once he started practicing, not up. So no surprise there.
And Toure is also not surprising. He's a guy; and by that I mean Just A Guy, not A GUY. He's got a chance to be a useful WR5/6/STer in the league but he pretty much stayed what he was and didn't improve or develop into anything more. Never understood why so many fans thought he was more than that, but glad we finally have good enough WRs that we can see it.
I hoped he would grow some as he did have some stuff to work with, but he never looked like he was going to be more than just someone you could put out there if you had to. I remember him being a big part of an INT with Rodgers at QB and then the next year it was the same exact thing with Love and another INT. I remember thinking, he still hasn't learned.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 28 Aug 2024 10:14
by YoHoChecko
I didn't participate much in rank the roster this year, but my "Toure is being way overrated here" arguments last year were pretty fun.
I did, though, say I could see him developing into Adam Thielan as his upside career trajectory. So it's not like I think he stunk. I just thought he was a guy who could use a PS stint and then could develop into someone who is savvy and quick enough to thrive as a possession guy, but otherwise, he's just a guy. So I do see where people could see upside (which never really materialized). I just didn't see why anyone saw anything more right away.
Re: Cuts and stuff
Posted: 28 Aug 2024 10:20
by go pak go
APB wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024 15:58
I wish I was Tyler Davis.
Go through a few practices before it gets too hot, get injured, get paid rest of the season (2 years running) for doing nothing.
I'd be very surprised if Davis doesn't get released with an injury settlement. This is year number 2 for a borderline #4 TE. No real reason to keep him unless his injury is truly bad enough that warrants being out for the full season (which I don't think is the case).