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Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 07:51
by BF004

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 07:57
by packman114
go pak go wrote:
14 Dec 2020 07:28
packman114 wrote:
14 Dec 2020 07:13
So we win a 3-way tie with Saints & Rams? Anyone know how? All 3 of us would have 2 conference losses.
Huh. It does look like we will have the tiebreaker over the Rams OR Seahawks at 12-4 if that loss is to TN.

We get the tiebreaker over the Seahawks at 12-4 with Conference Record.
We get the tiebreaker over the Rams with Common Games.

It looks like our common games is TB and SF.

Because SF swept the Rams and we beat SF, we win the tiebreaker over our one loss to TB and the Rams defeat over TB.
But aren't the tiebreakers different for 3 teams? If Saints lose to Chiefs and then win out, and Rams win out, we lose to only Tenn, all 3 of us are at 12-4. And all 3 of us are 10-2 in NFC games.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 08:33
by go pak go
packman114 wrote:
14 Dec 2020 07:57
go pak go wrote:
14 Dec 2020 07:28
packman114 wrote:
14 Dec 2020 07:13
So we win a 3-way tie with Saints & Rams? Anyone know how? All 3 of us would have 2 conference losses.
Huh. It does look like we will have the tiebreaker over the Rams OR Seahawks at 12-4 if that loss is to TN.

We get the tiebreaker over the Seahawks at 12-4 with Conference Record.
We get the tiebreaker over the Rams with Common Games.

It looks like our common games is TB and SF.

Because SF swept the Rams and we beat SF, we win the tiebreaker over our one loss to TB and the Rams defeat over TB.
But aren't the tiebreakers different for 3 teams? If Saints lose to Chiefs and then win out, and Rams win out, we lose to only Tenn, all 3 of us are at 12-4. And all 3 of us are 10-2 in NFC games.
Yes. Three way tiebreakers can throw a wrench in things. In this situation it does not because we hold tiebreakers over both the Saints and Rams AND the Saints hold the tiebreaker over the Rams.

Since the Saints hold the tiebreaker over the Rams (due to Common Games) and we hold the tie breaker over the Rams (common games), we then get to use our tiebreaker over the Saints of head to head.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 08:47
by kyle.mccarroll
BF004 wrote:
14 Dec 2020 07:51
http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

Try it out, kids. :beer2:
Playing around a bit with this....

Let's say TB wins out (seems reasonable since they have @ATL, @DET, vs ATL), and LAR beats SEA in week 16. That would mean that TB plays the NFCE winner and would be our most likely divisional round opponent (assuming the #2 and #3 seeds take care of business in the Wild Card round).

If SEA beats LAR in week 16 in this scenario, LAR is the #5 seed and likely opponent.

Would you all prefer Brady, Goff, or Wilson in GB? I don't know that I want to face that TB defense again and while it'd be nice to have Goff in the cold, I'm not sure I'd like to face the rest of his team that early either. Personally, give me the worst team (Seattle).

It would've been nice if the Vikings could have beaten TB yesterday.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 08:48
by Pckfn23
Bring anyone to our house! :lombardi:

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 10:01
by go pak go
I think Rams at this point is the NFC team I want to play the least.

Watching that Vikes and Bucs game, once again I was convinced the Vikes were better than the Bucs. Similar to our game, it was MN beating themselves with missed kicks, the big bomb to Miller and honestly bullsh*t penalties that are always called in favor of Brady.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 21:22
by RingoCStarrQB
Pckfn23 wrote:
14 Dec 2020 08:48
Bring anyone to our house! :lombardi:
That's what I'm talkin' about! Oh yeah. :clap:

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 11:04
by RingoCStarrQB
Alright Already ...... Let's continue this important discussion once the Saints-Chiefs outcome is apparent. :munch:

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 12:17
by BF004
Only one team in the NFL has more wins than us, maybe we arent so bad.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 18:16
by YoHoChecko
My understanding of the situation right now is that if....

The Chiefs hold on to beat the Saints

then Next Week...

The Packers can clinch the #1 seed with....
a win AND
a Rams win or tie against the Seahawks

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 18:36
by go pak go
YoHoChecko wrote:
20 Dec 2020 18:16
My understanding of the situation right now is that if....

The Chiefs hold on to beat the Saints

then Next Week...

The Packers can clinch the #1 seed with....
a win AND
a Rams win or tie against the Seahawks
You are correct. If the Chiefs hold on, the Packers clinch the #1 seed with 1 win and a Seahawks loss or tie the rest of the season.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 18:37
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote:
20 Dec 2020 18:16
My understanding of the situation right now is that if....

The Chiefs hold on to beat the Saints

then Next Week...

The Packers can clinch the #1 seed with....
a win AND
a Rams win or tie against the Seahawks
Sounds good. A little conflicted going into Week 17 with nothing on the line, but we need to secure this #1 seed anyway possible.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 19:00
by go pak go
So we will know Sunday night if the Titans game is for the top seed.

If the Rams beat the Hawks, a win and we have clinched it.

If the Hawks beat the Rams, the Titans game still has meaning in case the Seahawks lose to the 49ers in Week 17.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 19:21
by Pugger
go pak go wrote:
14 Dec 2020 10:01
I think Rams at this point is the NFC team I want to play the least.

Watching that Vikes and Bucs game, once again I was convinced the Vikes were better than the Bucs. Similar to our game, it was MN beating themselves with missed kicks, the big bomb to Miller and honestly bullsh*t penalties that are always called in favor of Brady.
Of course if the Jets can beat them in LA... ;)

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 19:33
by Labrev
Pugger wrote:
20 Dec 2020 19:21
go pak go wrote:
14 Dec 2020 10:01
I think Rams at this point is the NFC team I want to play the least.

Watching that Vikes and Bucs game, once again I was convinced the Vikes were better than the Bucs. Similar to our game, it was MN beating themselves with missed kicks, the big bomb to Miller and honestly bullsh*t penalties that are always called in favor of Brady.
Of course if the Jets can beat them in LA... ;)
Rams confirmed PRETENDERS!! :twisted:

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 19:56
by BF004
NCF wrote:
20 Dec 2020 18:37
YoHoChecko wrote:
20 Dec 2020 18:16
My understanding of the situation right now is that if....

The Chiefs hold on to beat the Saints

then Next Week...

The Packers can clinch the #1 seed with....
a win AND
a Rams win or tie against the Seahawks
Sounds good. A little conflicted going into Week 17 with nothing on the line, but we need to secure this #1 seed anyway possible.
I would love to give that game to Love. Maybe let Aaron play first quarter or first TD and pull him, just to let him stay in the game day ritual, then Love time.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 20:03
by YoHoChecko
BF004 wrote:
20 Dec 2020 19:56
I would love to give that game to Love. Maybe let Aaron play first quarter or first TD and pull him, just to let him stay in the game day ritual, then Love time.
Except that Tim Boyle would play

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 20:15
by go pak go
BF004 wrote:
20 Dec 2020 19:56
NCF wrote:
20 Dec 2020 18:37
YoHoChecko wrote:
20 Dec 2020 18:16
My understanding of the situation right now is that if....

The Chiefs hold on to beat the Saints

then Next Week...

The Packers can clinch the #1 seed with....
a win AND
a Rams win or tie against the Seahawks
Sounds good. A little conflicted going into Week 17 with nothing on the line, but we need to secure this #1 seed anyway possible.
I would love to give that game to Love. Maybe let Aaron play first quarter or first TD and pull him, just to let him stay in the game day ritual, then Love time.
You only do that if you think he has a remote possibility of being ready. We don't see that. The coaches would.

But the guy has never been active. So I would say that means he is a no.

Tim Boyle is going to be the guy to take any of those snaps. Tim Boyle has earned it and Tim Boyle is better.

Playing Jordan Love would be a bad move and show so many bad things to the team.

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 20:25
by packman114
Do we win a 3way tie with Saints and Seahawks?

Re: Packers #1 Seed

Posted: 20 Dec 2020 20:26
by YoHoChecko
Plus I want to trade Tim Boyle and so we need to show off the laser show