Packers Huddle

Packfntk wrote: ↑

31 May 2021 19:56

Guess I just did not remember ever hearing a DC say how he changed his gameplan for MVS. Regardless, I love MVS, but just feel this is insanely high for a one trick pony.

A little projection here, but if you watched the NFCCG closely, he wasn't just a one trick pony. It was the best game of his career, by far, but he was one of the best players on the field in that game. If he can approach that level consistently, he is well justified of this spot and probably is regardless... even if we're back to that one trick.

BF004 wrote: ↑

31 May 2021 21:50

Packfntk wrote: ↑

31 May 2021 18:05

Labrev wrote: ↑

31 May 2021 17:45

This overlooks how his speed opens things up for other players to make plays, (so in a sense, he has a hand in more receptions/scores than the ones on his stat sheet); I think that was the point his voters were trying to make.

Wow, so any burner in the NFL should be ranked really high. Speed is everything. Not a fan of this argument at all.

Silly town, of course any burner isn’t a deep threat, that’s obvious, no one is saying anything so ridiculous. Like any good WR, routes are set up throughout a game and throughout weeks. MVS has this mastered. He is one of a handful who can consistently win deep. 100% changes how a defense plays you.

His ilk are very few who can do that. Not 32 in the league.

Mastered huh? I guess that is one way to say it.

We are moving along, I just had 5-6 guys above MVS, but that is the fun of all of this, the different viewpoints.

Interesting alignment numbers:

As a percentage, all our receivers lined up in the slot a bunch last year:

Davante Adams: 47.4% from the slot, 37.2% outside, 1.1% tight or backfield

MVS: 54.6% from the slot, 30.3% outside, 5.5% tight or backfield

Lazard: 56.9% from the slot, 12.0% outside, 11.9% tight or backfield


Courtesy of rotoworld

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

01 Jun 2021 07:17

Interesting alignment numbers:

As a percentage, all our receivers lined up in the slot a bunch last year:

Davante Adams: 47.4% from the slot, 37.2% outside, 1.1% tight or backfield

MVS: 54.6% from the slot, 30.3% outside, 5.5% tight or backfield

Lazard: 56.9% from the slot, 12.0% outside, 11.9% tight or backfield


Courtesy of rotoworld

Does that even work out statistically?

Let me work out how many snaps that is...

NCF wrote: ↑

01 Jun 2021 06:45

BF004 wrote: ↑

31 May 2021 21:50

Packfntk wrote: ↑

31 May 2021 18:05

Wow, so any burner in the NFL should be ranked really high. Speed is everything. Not a fan of this argument at all.

Silly town, of course any burner isn’t a deep threat, that’s obvious, no one is saying anything so ridiculous. Like any good WR, routes are set up throughout a game and throughout weeks. MVS has this mastered. He is one of a handful who can consistently win deep. 100% changes how a defense plays you.

His ilk are very few who can do that. Not 32 in the league.

If it were simple, we'd all still be talking about Jeff Janis.

TBF, If #12 didn't absolutely hate him for some reason, we'd still be talking about Jeff Janis.

Janis was MVS with better hands and much better blocking.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

01 Jun 2021 08:49

Does that even work out statistically?

Let me work out how many snaps that is...

I don't think it does, which is why i listed the source. I'm wondering if they're considering the off ball flanker on the same side as the tight end as "slot" based on how wide he's aligned? There seem to be more total slot snaps than outside snaps counted. But who knows; it still paints an interesting picture of usage. Lazard and MVS basically in the slot the same(ish) percentage, but Lazard more likely to be sucked in and tight and MVS more likely to be pushed out and wide. Fits with what we'd guess I think, except the slot usage for MVS is higher than I expected.

I'm interested to see how those snaps are divvied up with a new big slot added to the mix (Funchess) and a new traditional slot (Amari)