hey leave Henry Black alone man, he didn't do anything
I had to read your comment twice, the way you worded it was terrible, lol sticking Aaron Rodgers in there like that was confusing
no one saw Tonyan coming, he went from mediocre to stardom almost over night, the others that 23 mention where drafted, Tonyan was UDFA, big diff.
A. about Henry Black - that's the point.
B. I don't think the wording of Aaron Rodgers was terrible. I think it is more about you having an automatic pissed off trigger whenever you read "Aaron Rodgers" and it not immediately being followed by OUR HERO.
could be, I admit I was thinking about two things at the same time
Henry was stuck on slo mo on his safety coverage thats for sure, course that could be said for most of our defense, I expect we'll see vast improvement next week, course not sure it could be any worse, the only direction we can go is up
From an actual "defensive ranking" which is based on total yards allowed, the Packers defense is still currently top 10.
Re: Packers @ Saints GDT - 9/12/2021 3:25 CST
Posted: 14 Sep 2021 15:56
by texas
I'm still just not going to draw any conclusions from week 1. We always suck in FL
So by that logic, undrafted automatically suck? Again, very odd way to look at it.
NO, and stop acting so childish for goodness sake, you know as well as anyone that the higher the picking comes higher expectations, your doing the same thing your accusing J of. mid or undrafted players often do suck, thats the nature of being mid round or undrafted, thats reality and you know it, we marvel at the few who don't suck, and those that do finally produce, but most don't, they always just suck, till there gone, and more go then stay.
Can I keep this when you and I get into the draft spat of "earlier pick = quicker Pro Ready"?
sure, but why would you ever contest that, it's true, the earlier the pick does translate to more ready to play almost always, thats why there early picks, not always of course, some positions are harder for any player to transition to this level ( QB, DL ) but thats why the draft has tiers of talent levels, but there are always outliers, we tend to name them draft day steals, some like Tonyan take a year or two to warent that classification, some like Shields show it as soon as they get here.
I know this though, I doubt the draft day spats will ever end
B. I don't think the wording of Aaron Rodgers was terrible. I think it is more about you having an automatic pissed off trigger whenever you read "Aaron Rodgers" and it not immediately being followed by OUR HERO.
could be, I admit I was thinking about two things at the same time
Henry was stuck on slo mo on his safety coverage thats for sure, course that could be said for most of our defense, I expect we'll see vast improvement next week, course not sure it could be any worse, the only direction we can go is up
From an actual "defensive ranking" which is based on total yards allowed, the Packers defense is still currently top 10.
wa haaaa, actually I'am more concerned with our points given up ranking, which can't be as good, remember when we screamed when Capers units gave up huge yardage, yet we won by two or 3 scores, so to me yards can be mis leading a bit, hopefully we hold the scoring down to match the yards given.
Re: Packers @ Saints GDT - 9/12/2021 3:25 CST
Posted: 14 Sep 2021 16:43
by Labrev
I will re-iterate one of the rare good takes made on FF's message board (paraphrased greatly): it is more productive to talk about players as having their given strengths and weaknesses than simply boil it down to them being good or just suck.
I will re-iterate one of the rare good takes made on FF's message board (paraphrased greatly): it is more productive to talk about players as having their given strengths and weaknesses than simply boil it down to them being good or just suck.
Ok, Kevin King's strengths are nothing, and his weaknesses are everything
I will re-iterate one of the rare good takes made on FF's message board (paraphrased greatly): it is more productive to talk about players as having their given strengths and weaknesses than simply boil it down to them being good or just suck.
Ok, Kevin King's strengths are nothing, and his weaknesses are everything
People will defend him until hes gone. Same thing happened with Randall.
Re: Packers @ Saints GDT - 9/12/2021 3:25 CST
Posted: 14 Sep 2021 20:38
by Pckfn23
Say Aye! if you are defending Kevin King or you defended Damarious Randall at the end?
it is more productive to talk about players as having their given strengths and weaknesses than simply boil it down to them being good or just suck.
100 % Agree-
And its far more instructive and interesting to read those nuggets, especially the well- done ones.
Re: Packers @ Saints GDT - 9/12/2021 3:25 CST
Posted: 14 Sep 2021 21:18
by Pckfn23
Despite a dismal performance from the offense overall, Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers had no issues with the way his reconfigured offensive line played in Week 1 against the New Orleans Saints. In fact, he was quite pleased with the performance from the five starters to open the season.
“I feel like the offensive line played really well,” Rodgers told “The Pat McAfee Show” on Tuesday. “I feel like Elgton (Jenkins) played really good at left tackle and Billy (Turner) at right tackle. The interior guys, the two rookie guys played really well. And Lucas Patrick. The protection was solid. I gifted one sack, and that was it, on a keeper. I feel like the protection was pretty good.”
The Packers offensive line allowed just one sack and three quarterback hits over 41 pass-blocking opportunities. At Pro Football Focus, the Packers were the second-highest graded pass-blocking offensive line in the NFL in Week 1.
Rodgers said he “didn’t take many shots” and took blame for the one sack. Saints defensive end Marcus Davenport was intentionally unblocked on a designed rollout, but Rodgers had to hold the ball and take the sack when the play didn’t develop down the field and Davenport closed the space in a hurry.
The Packers offensive line sits directly in the spotlight to start the season after losing All-Pro center in free agency and not having All-Pro left tackle David Bakhtiari (PUP list) for the first six games. Jenkins made his first start at left tackle in place of Bakhtiari and was excellent. Rookies Josh Myers and Royce Newman started on the interior and went through typical ups and downs for first-year players.
All things considered, the protection for Rodgers could have been a lot worse in Week 1, especially considering the game flow and how many times the Packers attempted to pass the football while down big on the scoreboard.
Pressure did cause the game-changing interception to start the second half, however. Rookie Royce Newman got beat clean by Cameron Jordan, who forced Rodgers to step up into the pocket and hurry a throw to Davante Adams running the shallow cross from right to left. A painful shot to a sensitive body part played a role in the bad throw, per Rodgers.
Overall, Rodgers was under pressure on 10 of his drop backs against the Saints. He completed just two passes and had an interception while under pressure. Unfortunately for the Packers, Rodgers also wasn’t any good from clean pockets.
