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Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:29
by go pak go
BF004 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:07
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 15:43
Some good things, some not so good things. The W is all that matters. 4-1 is all that matters.
100%
No one will say in January/February if we deserved to win this game, but we are 4-1 and one game closer to January/February football.
See I actually think the pendulum swung right today. The better team did win.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:34
by Drj820
Rodgers had a rough first quarter but then played fine.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:35
by go pak go
Packers allowed 264 yards passing and 103 yards rushing.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:37
by BF004
go pak go wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:29
BF004 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:07
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 15:43
Some good things, some not so good things. The W is all that matters. 4-1 is all that matters.
100%
No one will say in January/February if we deserved to win this game, but we are 4-1 and one game closer to January/February football.
See I actually think the pendulum swung right today. The better team did win.
Never said who the better team was, just commented on who maybe deserved it.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:40
by go pak go
BF004 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:37
go pak go wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:29
BF004 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:07
100%
No one will say in January/February if we deserved to win this game, but we are 4-1 and one game closer to January/February football.
See I actually think the pendulum swung right today. The better team did win.
Never said who the better team was, just commented on who maybe deserved it.
I would say GB deserved it too.
I mean when you score on a lucky bomb where our safety bats the ball, we miss 4 FGs inside like 45 yards and their's is a miss from 57 yards and 49 yards...
i think we deserved it.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:43
by Drj820
go pak go wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:40
BF004 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:37
go pak go wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:29
See I actually think the pendulum swung right today. The better team did win.
Never said who the better team was, just commented on who maybe deserved it.
I would say GB deserved it too.
I mean when you score on a lucky bomb where our safety bats the ball, we miss 4 FGs inside like 45 yards and their's is a miss from 57 yards and 49 yards...
i think we deserved it.
We deserved it bc we are a better team that knows how to win, we didn’t deserve it bc we tried our best to lose the game and played like complete idiots at times. One can look at whichever angle they choose and probably still be right.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:49
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:43
go pak go wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:40
BF004 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:37
Never said who the better team was, just commented on who maybe deserved it.
I would say GB deserved it too.
I mean when you score on a lucky bomb where our safety bats the ball, we miss 4 FGs inside like 45 yards and their's is a miss from 57 yards and 49 yards...
i think we deserved it.
We deserved it bc we are a better team that knows how to win, we didn’t deserve it bc we tried our best to lose the game and played like complete idiots at times. One can look at whichever angle they choose and probably still be right.
I'd say. Because Person A says Rodgers was awesome today after the 1st quarter. Others say he wasn't. Some say the 2ndary was great others say Savage sucked. Others say our Oline should be Here's Johnny winners and others say they were terrible in the RZ.
Just a weird game.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:52
by Drj820
Everybody was good enough to win this game in regulation except for Crosby and the Head Coach.
That includes with Rodgers starting out awful.
Also, Rashan Gary is not a good football player at this point in his career. Preston Smith is though.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:53
by YoHoChecko
[mention]go pak go[/mention] what's the vibe in the Cincy media and fanbase out there? Is it "dangit, we had a chance to steal one?" or is it more "we were right there with them and just couldn't pull it off" or even a "shoot, we're still the Bengals"
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:55
by YoHoChecko
Drj820 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:52
Everybody was good enough to win this game in regulation except for Crosby and the Head Coach.
That includes with Rodgers starting out awful.
Also, Rashan Gary is not a good football player at this point in his career. Preston Smith is though.
I agree with most of this post, but...
Did Gary mess up? He has through 4 weeks led the team in pressures, and while not translating to a lot of sacks, seems involved in plays and useful in the run defense. They're trying some new stuff with him that they used to do with Z and he's not as good at that stuff yet as Z, but I don't think "not a good football player" is even remotely fair. He seems pretty good. I'd buy that he's not a "top 12 pick kind of player at this point in his career."
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 17:57
by Drj820
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:55
Drj820 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:52
Everybody was good enough to win this game in regulation except for Crosby and the Head Coach.
That includes with Rodgers starting out awful.
Also, Rashan Gary is not a good football player at this point in his career. Preston Smith is though.
I agree with most of this post, but...
Did Gary mess up? He has through 4 weeks led the team in pressures, and while not translating to a lot of sacks, seems involved in plays and useful in the run defense. They're trying some new stuff with him that they used to do with Z and he's not as good at that stuff yet as Z, but I don't think "not a good football player" is even remotely fair. He seems pretty good. I'd buy that he's not a "top 12 pick kind of player at this point in his career."
Gary May have caught a stray bullet in my post that wasn’t fair, but he underwhelms me every week thus far in his new expanded role. I think he’s getting credited for pressures bc he’s “close” to the qb, even when he isn’t affecting the play a whole lot. I admit I may have been using hyperbole, but I expect more.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 18:10
by NCF
go pak go wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:40
BF004 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:37
go pak go wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:29
See I actually think the pendulum swung right today. The better team did win.
Never said who the better team was, just commented on who maybe deserved it.
I would say GB deserved it too.
I mean when you score on a lucky bomb where our safety bats the ball, we miss 4 FGs inside like 45 yards and their's is a miss from 57 yards and 49 yards...
i think we deserved it.
Cincy sure didn’t. Being pesky and not quitting doesn’t equate to deserving to win.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 18:14
by go pak go
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 17:53
@go pak go what's the vibe in the Cincy media and fanbase out there? Is it "dangit, we had a chance to steal one?" or is it more "we were right there with them and just couldn't pull it off" or even a "shoot, we're still the Bengals"
Hard to tell. There was some fat fans I ran into who said we got lucky but you could tell they were just that type of obnoxious fat fan and at the end of the conversation they agreed it was probably a closer game than it should have been. Or "good game they said"
The news overall said "close game today. Definitely tried to highlight the Bengals misses more, but one thing was said that was interesting: "couldn't get it done against better competition compared to earlier nail biters this year"
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 18:16
by go pak go
Am I hearing it right?
Sounds like MLF said the defense heard a "check" on the Bengals bomb which the Packers interpreted as "don't rush the passer"
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 18:25
by YoHoChecko
go pak go wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 18:16
Am I hearing it right?
Sounds like MLF said the defense heard a "check" on the Bengals bomb which the Packers interpreted as "don't rush the passer"
It was something weird like that. I
think what he meant was that individual players heard a check that pulled them out of a pass rush role, if accurate; but that check was mis-interpreted based on the Bengals using different verbiage or something. I'm sure those who pulled out of pass rushing expected others to maybe do some rushing of the passer.
Definitely hope for follow-up in the Monday presser.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 19:00
by Pckfn23
It was a check the Bengals had that was the same verbage we used which caused our OLBs to both drop out.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 10 Oct 2021 20:54
by JKB
APB wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 15:25
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021 15:23
I’d kick it but that’s just me. Gotta rely on people to do their jobs.
Converting on 4th and inches isn’t asking people to do their jobs?
Ugh
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 11 Oct 2021 02:06
by German_Panzer
Anybody has an idea what those kickers think in the breaks before they get going? It's sometimes 2-3min. due to ad breaks. I remember there was quite some time before Mason's last kick. I wonder if they use certain techniques (like just multiply by 2 to just get distracted) or what.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 11 Oct 2021 03:30
by salmar80
German_Panzer wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021 02:06
Anybody has an idea what those kickers think in the breaks before they get going? It's sometimes 2-3min. due to ad breaks. I remember there was quite some time before Mason's last kick. I wonder if they use certain techniques (like just multiply by 2 to just get distracted) or what.
Peter King touched a little on that on this week's column:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... eter-king/
The kick of the year
Camera on Mason Crosby after he pulls a 36-yard field goal wide left, 2:12 left in the fourth quarter. No emotion from Crosby.
Camera on Mason Crosby after he pulls a 51-yard game-winner left on the last play of the fourth quarter. No emotion.
Camera on Mason Crosby, two minutes into overtime, after he yanks a 40-yarder two feet left. He looks chagrined, but no real emotion.
Camera not on Mason Crosby, fourth-and-inches for Green Bay in field-goal range, late in overtime in a 22-22 game. Coach Matt LaFleur approaches him on the sidelines, and you know what LaFleur is thinking. If he sees uncertainty in Crosby, if he sees the averted eyes, he’s not going for the field goal again. He’ll put it in the hands of one of the great quarterbacks of all time, Aaron Rodgers, and take his chances.
“What do you think?” LaFleur said.
“I got this,” Crosby said.
Straight down the middle from 49 yards away. Green Bay 25, Cincinnati 22.
It’s been a weird year for kickers. They missed 12 PATs Sunday, one by Crosby. So Crosby missed four kicks in Cincinnati, and still got a chance to kick the winner again.
It always interests me, the mindset and approach of field-goal kickers. There was a gusting wind on a warm afternoon in Cincinnati, the wind blowing in different directions up to 20 mph. The 51-yard miss got caught in a hard right to left wind, he thought. Crosby’s not sure, but he thinks one or more of the kicks may not have had the laces facing straight ahead; when they’re to either side, the ball can be a knuckleball. He’ll see the tape today and figure if the snap-hold part of the equation needs adjusting. But the approach . . .
“Sounds boring,” he said from Cincinnati post-game, “but I’ve been in it for a long time, and make or miss, you move to the next one. You kinda go through the process for a play or two and then you have to reload. When Matt came right down to me he just said, What are you thinking? And of course I wanted to kick it.
“It’s my job. I just keep resetting. I haven’t missed many kicks the last few years. Unfortunately it came in a little bit of a cluster here but I know my ability and when everything is smooth and good, we go out there and execute. It was another opportunity. Just couldn’t believe with how crazy this game was that we had another chance. But when there’s chaos, when the challenge gets even higher and the pressure gets greater, you have to find that calm. I’m able to do that. I want to be out there. If you get too high, you won’t find that calm.”
I talked to Crosby for 13 minutes. When I hung up, I thought: If we’d had a 65-yarder to try after he’d missed three, I’d have sent him out there too. I certainly know why LaFleur did.
Re: Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!
Posted: 11 Oct 2021 05:02
by lupedafiasco
As I said in the game, gotta trust people to do their job in that situation. I will say this after I rewatched. On the 3 he missed the right side came crashing through yet again and all 3 kicks went left. Was Crosby trying to avoid a block? Cant say. The one he made there was no real rush off the right side. Im not sure how you can go 3 consecutive weeks and have the same problem on STs.