Packers Huddle

APB wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 15:41

Yoop wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 10:40

everyone acts like I stool there last condom...

There's a visual I didn't need...

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 15:52

APB wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 15:41

Yoop wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 10:40

everyone acts like I stool there last condom...

There's a visual I didn't need...

It's even worse if you read it as written... "Stool"

Yoop wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 10:47

Half Empty wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 07:50

BSA wrote: ↑

29 Mar 2023 17:26

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From 2009 through 2022, only 1 team won more regular-season games than the Packers.

And your point is...?

come on, I'am sure you can get there, do this, repeat this 25 times quickly, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, ......

We have had one of the best QB's in the league for over a decade, along with some other talent other teams have not had, or do you think it was a result of something else?

Half Empty wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 08:40

I ask 'what is your point?'

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 10:23

@Labrev Where did your article go?!

I found 67 QBs who have attempted at least 100 non-RPOs passes past the LOS since the start of 2019. Of those 67 QBs, Aaron Rodgers was 65th at targeting the middle of the field. To give you a sense of the difference, the king of targeting the middle of the field during that time is Jimmy Garoppolo, who targeted the middle of the field on 58.4% of his passes. So the difference between Aaron Rodgers and the #1 QB on this list is 23 percentage points. Put another way, Rodgers attempted ~14 fewer passes per game over the middle of the field than Jimmy Garoppolo.

I could dive more in-depth, but they're all different ways to tell the same story. No matter how you slice it - no matter what depth of the middle of the field you're looking at - Rodgers has performed better than the rest of the league when he targets the middle of the field, but he targets the field at a much lower clip than the rest of the league.

BSA wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 10:02

Half Empty wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 08:40

I ask 'what is your point?'

My point is that you are an insufferable & miserable dumbass who has nothing useful to contribute. Ever
But then I quickly realized, you're already doing a magnificent job of proving that yourself.

Carry on

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 17:04

APB wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 15:41

Yoop wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023 10:40

everyone acts like I stool there last condom...

There's a visual I didn't need...

Me either. Does Yoop even understand what he posts?

Half Empty wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 11:54

BSA wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 10:02

Half Empty wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 08:40

I ask 'what is your point?'

My point is that you are an insufferable & miserable dumbass who has nothing useful to contribute. Ever
But then I quickly realized, you're already doing a magnificent job of proving that yourself.

Carry on

Fair enough. However, in order to not contribute anything useful to your factoid, I was wondering if you think winning a bunch of regular season games in a good thing, not so, a point for or against players/coaches/management or something else entirely.

Labrev wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 10:32

Dusty Evely did an in-depth analysis examining whether Rodgers avoids the middle-of-the-field singificantly as compared to his peers, or whether it's a common misconception.

VERDICT: yes, Rodgers avoids the middle of the field BIG TIME....
https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-pac ... 207552129/


Come at me, Rodgers Trolls.

Yoop wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 12:54

I don't have to look up any stats to know if ya don't have a seam shredding TE or slot receiver then less passes will be thrown into traffic,

go look up stats where Lazard has caught most of his passes, or even Doubs and Watson last season.

or go look up where Nelson and Cobb caught most of theres in 2014.

and I will be laughing at you as Rodgers reverts back to MVP form because he finally has a decent group of receivers

Labrev wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 13:26

Yoop wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 12:54

I don't have to look up any stats to know if ya don't have a seam shredding TE or slot receiver then less passes will be thrown into traffic,

We didn't have a slot receiver? The study begins with 2019. So, three seasons in which we had Davante Adams, and one without. We used Adams VERY heavily in the slot, it was arguably his best position.

And for the one year we did not have Adams or the occasions he was not in the slot, what the hell was Cobb, the guy who Rodgers forced us to trade for? I mean, yeah, it probably had more to do with Rodgers wanting to pal it up with his buddy than Cobb being a worthwhile receiving target, but still.

Nope, sorry, this excuse does not fly. If Adams and Cobb didn't get him to stop throwing over the middle significantly less (on average) than his peers at QB, nothing will.

Rodgers CONFIRMED middle-of-field ignorer. You DEFINITIVELY lost this debate!

go look up stats where Lazard has caught most of his passes, or even Doubs and Watson last season.

Wait, what happened to "you don't have to look up any stats" -?

Also, you are contradicting yourself. Here you are claiming Lazard, Doubs, Watson caught most of their passes over the middle, arguing that the findings from what I posted is wrong. Yet earlier you are saying, of course he didn't pass over the middle, he didn't have a good slot receiver (false) or a seam-busting TE... so, in effect, you would be admitting that the findings of what I posted is actually correct, but that the fault does not lie with Rodgers.

Can't have it both ways.

or go look up where Nelson and Cobb caught most of theres in 2014.

Right, because there's no difference between Rodgers in 2022 versus 2014, almost a decade earlier; Rodgers is immune from age! He can run around and throw just as good as then! Cobb too, he's as spry in his mid-20s as he is now in his 30s!

Sorry, 2014 means F-all today. If he threw more over the middle in 2014 (not established as a fact) it would have more to do with the fact that he had the legs to do his scramble drill type play effectively (which is not the case anymore because he has lost a step in foot-speed, even if you refuse to accept this reality) and might have thrown more passes there on broken plays.

and I will be laughing at you as Rodgers reverts back to MVP form because he finally has a decent group of receivers

Yeah sure, and I will laugh when it ends the same way as when Favre went elsewhere, whether that was not reaching the playoffs or getting there and choking.

Yoop wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 14:09

Labrev wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 13:26

Yoop wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 12:54

I don't have to look up any stats to know if ya don't have a seam shredding TE or slot receiver then less passes will be thrown into traffic,

We didn't have a slot receiver? The study begins with 2019. So, three seasons in which we had Davante Adams, and one without. We used Adams VERY heavily in the slot, it was arguably his best position.

And for the one year we did not have Adams or the occasions he was not in the slot, what the hell was Cobb, the guy who Rodgers forced us to trade for? I mean, yeah, it probably had more to do with Rodgers wanting to pal it up with his buddy than Cobb being a worthwhile receiving target, but still.

Nope, sorry, this excuse does not fly. If Adams and Cobb didn't get him to stop throwing over the middle significantly less (on average) than his peers at QB, nothing will.

Rodgers CONFIRMED middle-of-field ignorer. You DEFINITIVELY lost this debate!

go look up stats where Lazard has caught most of his passes, or even Doubs and Watson last season.

Wait, what happened to "you don't have to look up any stats" -?

Also, you are contradicting yourself. Here you are claiming Lazard, Doubs, Watson caught most of their passes over the middle, arguing that the findings from what I posted is wrong. Yet earlier you are saying, of course he didn't pass over the middle, he didn't have a good slot receiver (false) or a seam-busting TE... so, in effect, you would be admitting that the findings of what I posted is actually correct, but that the fault does not lie with Rodgers.

Can't have it both ways.

or go look up where Nelson and Cobb caught most of theres in 2014.

Right, because there's no difference between Rodgers in 2022 versus 2014, almost a decade earlier; Rodgers is immune from age! He can run around and throw just as good as then! Cobb too, he's as spry in his mid-20s as he is now in his 30s!

Sorry, 2014 means F-all today. If he threw more over the middle in 2014 (not established as a fact) it would have more to do with the fact that he had the legs to do his scramble drill type play effectively (which is not the case anymore because he has lost a step in foot-speed, even if you refuse to accept this reality) and might have thrown more passes there on broken plays.

and I will be laughing at you as Rodgers reverts back to MVP form because he finally has a decent group of receivers

Yeah sure, and I will laugh when it ends the same way as when Favre went elsewhere, whether that was not reaching the playoffs or getting there and choking.

this BS that Rodgers doesn't throw between the hash marks is idiotic, Rodgers doesn't draw up the pass routes, nor does he select the players that do well running routes in traffic, And Rodgers asked for Cobb because there was and still is a need for a slot type receiver.

just keep twisting up comments I make to suit whatever argument your trying to make, fools like you who diss Rodgers are a hoot.

I found 67 QBs who have attempted at least 100 non-RPOs passes past the LOS since the start of 2019. Of those 67 QBs, Aaron Rodgers was 65th at targeting the middle of the field. To give you a sense of the difference, the king of targeting the middle of the field during that time is Jimmy Garoppolo, who targeted the middle of the field on 58.4% of his passes. So the difference between Aaron Rodgers and the #1 QB on this list is 23 percentage points. Put another way, Rodgers attempted ~14 fewer passes per game over the middle of the field than Jimmy Garoppolo.

I could dive more in-depth, but they're all different ways to tell the same story. No matter how you slice it - no matter what depth of the middle of the field you're looking at - Rodgers has performed better than the rest of the league when he targets the middle of the field, but he targets the field at a much lower clip than the rest of the league.

Acrobat wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 14:34

I left my condom on the bar stole.

Yoop wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 12:44

Half Empty wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 11:54

BSA wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023 10:02

My point is that you are an insufferable & miserable dumbass who has nothing useful to contribute. Ever
But then I quickly realized, you're already doing a magnificent job of proving that yourself.

Carry on

Fair enough. However, in order to not contribute anything useful to your factoid, I was wondering if you think winning a bunch of regular season games in a good thing, not so, a point for or against players/coaches/management or something else entirely.

winning any freaking game is a good thing, and there are to many variables involved to lay blame on any one thing for any loss.