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Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 08:24
by Yoop
years ago I enjoyed drifting off to dreamland watching Johnny Carson, once in a while he'd do a skit featuring Carnac the magnificent, who would predict all sorts of fantastical revelations, none of which had a basis built on facts though, funny how reading comments here concerning our QB wakes up old memory's of comedic relief forgotten for decades
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 08:30
by Drj820
Gutey needs to give 12 a deadline and tell him hes welcome back after that deadline, but his contract will have to fit in with the deals already worked out. We have a team to build.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 08:33
by Drj820
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 08:19
If we talk about Aaron's health by itself, I see no reason to think that he couldn't be very healthy (for a virtual 40 year old, that is) for a couple of years anyhow. And if Brady could keep his arm health and survive as a pure pocket passer until mid-40s, why couldn't Aaron?
We used to say that there was NO WAY that a guy past 35 could win MVP once, let alone two consecutive years. But Aaron did it.
There's as much positive about his health as their might be negative.
yeah im not worried at all about his ability to toss the rock for years to come. Like Brady, he does alot of his work presnap. Guys whose brains are just as much of an asset as arm strength can last awhile
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 09:35
by wallyuwl
Drj820 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 08:33
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 08:19
If we talk about Aaron's health by itself, I see no reason to think that he couldn't be very healthy (for a virtual 40 year old, that is) for a couple of years anyhow. And if Brady could keep his arm health and survive as a pure pocket passer until mid-40s, why couldn't Aaron?
We used to say that there was NO WAY that a guy past 35 could win MVP once, let alone two consecutive years. But Aaron did it.
There's as much positive about his health as their might be negative.
yeah im not worried at all about his ability to toss the rock for years to come. Like Brady, he does alot of his work presnap. Guys whose brains are just as much of an asset as arm strength can last awhile
Manning was good/strong enough after neck fusion surgery to win a SB (with a great defense).
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 09:50
by NCF
wallyuwl wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 09:35
Manning was good/strong enough after neck fusion surgery to win a SB (with a great defense).
Counterpoint:
Manning was good/strong enough after neck fusion surgery that there was a legitimate QB controversy to start Brock Osweiler over Manning on that SB Team as the season sent along.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 10:17
by Foosball
dsr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 06:47
Foosball wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 23:29
Quiz Question
Who said “It’s better to get rid of a player a year early than a year too late”???
They really ought to have said "it is better to get rid of a player at the right time, rather than too early or too late". No GM is going to work on the principle that this plater is still useful and will make a big contribution this year, so we'll get shut in case he isn't good enough the year after.
The problem with getting rid of a player too early is that it might be 5 years too early. If you get rid of him too late, it's only 1 year.
It was Bill Walsh
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 14:00
by go pak go
NCF wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 09:50
wallyuwl wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 09:35
Manning was good/strong enough after neck fusion surgery to win a SB (with a great defense).
Counterpoint:
Manning was good/strong enough after neck fusion surgery that there was a legitimate QB controversy to start Brock Osweiler over Manning on that SB Team as the season sent along.
Yeah I think it's a valid question. Who was the worst QB to win a SB between Trent Dilfer and the 2000 Ravens, Brad Johnson and the 2002 Bucs, or Peyton Manning and the 2015 Broncos.
Nick Foles is clearly above this group in my mind.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 14:34
by Yoop
Foosball wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 10:17
dsr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 06:47
Foosball wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 23:29
Quiz Question
Who said “It’s better to get rid of a player a year early than a year too late”???
They really ought to have said "it is better to get rid of a player at the right time, rather than too early or too late". No GM is going to work on the principle that this plater is still useful and will make a big contribution this year, so we'll get shut in case he isn't good enough the year after.
The problem with getting rid of a player too early is that it might be 5 years too early. If you get rid of him too late, it's only 1 year.
It was Bill Walsh
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Good recall
I remember others saying it over the years to, so I goggled it, seems he wasn't the first one to say it though, Branch Ricky did it at least a decade prior, heres a bunch of other Ricky slogans.
https://www.baseball-almanac.com/quotes/quobr.shtml
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 21:49
by RingoCStarrQB
dsr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 06:47
Foosball wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 23:29
Quiz Question
Who said “It’s better to get rid of a player a year early than a year too late”???
They really ought to have said "it is better to get rid of a player at the right time, rather than too early or too late". No GM is going to work on the principle that this plater is still useful and will make a big contribution this year, so we'll get shut in case he isn't good enough the year after.
The problem with getting rid of a player too early is that it might be 5 years too early. If you get rid of him too late, it's only 1 year.
Jimmy Graham wasn't got rid of too early ........... or was he gotten rid of too late? So confusing ....... Hey, at least he was gotten rid of.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 21:52
by RingoCStarrQB
Foosball wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 10:17
dsr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 06:47
Foosball wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 23:29
Quiz Question
Who said “It’s better to get rid of a player a year early than a year too late”???
They really ought to have said "it is better to get rid of a player at the right time, rather than too early or too late". No GM is going to work on the principle that this plater is still useful and will make a big contribution this year, so we'll get shut in case he isn't good enough the year after.
The problem with getting rid of a player too early is that it might be 5 years too early. If you get rid of him too late, it's only 1 year.
It was Bill Walsh
Same for coaches ........... Bill Walsh would know.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 21:56
by paco
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 21:49
dsr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 06:47
Foosball wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 23:29
Quiz Question
Who said “It’s better to get rid of a player a year early than a year too late”???
They really ought to have said "it is better to get rid of a player at the right time, rather than too early or too late". No GM is going to work on the principle that this plater is still useful and will make a big contribution this year, so we'll get shut in case he isn't good enough the year after.
The problem with getting rid of a player too early is that it might be 5 years too early. If you get rid of him too late, it's only 1 year.
Jimmy Graham wasn't got rid of too early ........... or was he gotten rid of too late? So confusing ....... Hey, at least he was gotten rid of.
Jimmy Graham should never have been gotten at all. I think I agreed with that at time, but I don't remember.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 03 Mar 2022 23:21
by Foosball
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 21:49
dsr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022 06:47
Foosball wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 23:29
Quiz Question
Who said “It’s better to get rid of a player a year early than a year too late”???
They really ought to have said "it is better to get rid of a player at the right time, rather than too early or too late". No GM is going to work on the principle that this plater is still useful and will make a big contribution this year, so we'll get shut in case he isn't good enough the year after.
The problem with getting rid of a player too early is that it might be 5 years too early. If you get rid of him too late, it's only 1 year.
j
Jimmy Graham wasn't got rid of too early ........... or was he gotten rid of too late? So confusing ....... Hey, at least he was gotten rid of.
Ask the Bears
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 04 Mar 2022 20:04
by wallyuwl
NFLN talking about AR right now during combine. "Sources" say he is "torn."
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 04 Mar 2022 21:30
by RingoCStarrQB
wallyuwl wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 20:04
NFLN talking about AR right now during combine. "Sources" say he is "torn."
Torn about what? I'm not torn. I want AR back.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 04 Mar 2022 22:22
by wallyuwl
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 21:30
wallyuwl wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 20:04
NFLN talking about AR right now during combine. "Sources" say he is "torn."
Torn about what? I'm not torn. I want AR back.
About where he wants to play 2022. Didn't say what the difficulties were (money, control, personality differences, etc).
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 05 Mar 2022 07:13
by paco
wallyuwl wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 22:22
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 21:30
wallyuwl wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 20:04
NFLN talking about AR right now during combine. "Sources" say he is "torn."
Torn about what? I'm not torn. I want AR back.
About where he wants to play 2022. Didn't say what the difficulties were (money, control, personality differences, etc).
I think at this point it is who surrounds him. Rodgers potentially wants a certain support group or friends. He knows that is now lacking in Green Bay. But I think he also truly loves the Packers and people in the organization, fans, and his legacy.
Denver or Green Bay are 2 very different situations. I can imagine it is a tough decision to make on where to finish out your career. But I think it has boiled down to a quality of life issue and comfort level. Then to a lesser extent, the football and money stuff.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 05 Mar 2022 08:02
by Yoop
paco wrote: ↑05 Mar 2022 07:13
wallyuwl wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 22:22
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 21:30
Torn about what? I'm not torn. I want AR back.
About where he wants to play 2022. Didn't say what the difficulties were (money, control, personality differences, etc).
I think at this point it is who surrounds him. Rodgers potentially wants a certain support group or friends. He knows that is now lacking in Green Bay. But I think he also truly loves the Packers and people in the organization, fans, and his legacy.
Denver or Green Bay are 2 very different situations. I can imagine it is a tough decision to make on where to finish out your career. But I think it has boiled down to a quality of life issue and comfort level. Then to a lesser extent, the football and money stuff.
I agree, he doesn't want to hang around if he doesn't think the FO is all in about keeping our best players together so we have a realistic chance to compete for the SB, and that probably includes Adams, I f he feels confident Guty is on board to do this then I'd think he'd love to play out his last years as a Packer, but I think he realizes that may be a impossible task.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 05 Mar 2022 08:23
by RingoCStarrQB
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 05 Mar 2022 08:23
by go pak go
Yoop wrote: ↑05 Mar 2022 08:02
paco wrote: ↑05 Mar 2022 07:13
wallyuwl wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022 22:22
About where he wants to play 2022. Didn't say what the difficulties were (money, control, personality differences, etc).
I think at this point it is who surrounds him. Rodgers potentially wants a certain support group or friends. He knows that is now lacking in Green Bay. But I think he also truly loves the Packers and people in the organization, fans, and his legacy.
Denver or Green Bay are 2 very different situations. I can imagine it is a tough decision to make on where to finish out your career.
But I think it has boiled down to a quality of life issue and comfort level. Then to a lesser extent, the football and money stuff.
I agree, he doesn't want to hang around if he doesn't think the FO is all in about keeping our best players together so we have a realistic chance to compete for the SB, and that probably includes Adams, I f he feels confident Guty is on board to do this then I'd think he'd love to play out his last years as a Packer, but I think he realizes that may be a impossible task.
So you don't agree.
Re: Rodgers future
Posted: 05 Mar 2022 08:46
by RingoCStarrQB
This just doesn't look right (Brett's 2008 Topps Finest card). Never did......and never will.
Imagine AR's card(s) if he leaves Titletown to join another team. Won't look right either.
