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German_Panzer wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2021 07:22

BF004 wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2021 21:43

Yeah, absolutely silly. The guys was a wrecking crew against us this year.

TT would never touch such a guy and I always admired his consequency to stick to a plan. JJ is 30+, shows first signs of deterioration, has plenty of injuries in his past. No brainer not to take him. Those who disagree - that's my claim - are blinded by his reputation and image that usually survives a lot longer as well as by an romantic idea (home boy coming home at last).

Drj820 wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2021 22:58

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2021 08:07

Drj820 wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2021 07:39

But either way...he might have failed at being that guy this year...maybe...but he was brought in and paid to be that guy. You can only pay so many guys to be that guy before you have to wait until they are gone to try again.

No let's call it for what it is. He did fail. We lost and part of that loss can be attributed to generating zero sack or hurry pressure.

Our premium players in 2020 were the following:

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Davante Adams
3. Jaire Alexander
4. Aaron Jones
5. David Bakhtiari
6. Kenny Clark
7. Zadarius Smith
8. Corey Linsley

The three players who definitely did not fail and rose to the occasion were Kenny, Jaire and Corey. Aaron Rodgers didn't hurt the team, for the most part, but also didn't make the 1 or 2 extra plays he needed to make. The rest honestly let us down in the NFC title game. David is included because he wasn't available.

No real extra "pieces" would put that group over the top. Maybe not having the liability of Kevin King in the game wouldn't have hurt, but otherwise, you have to have your playmakers and leaders step and make plays in the big games and ours just haven't in the last 10 years.

Oh idk about the first part. He was second team all pro, 4th in sacks, 3rd in forced fumbles. Certainly felt like a locker room leader and on field leader to me most of the year. As for the NFCCG, yeah he came up small...good chance any pass rusher in the league would have. My evidence is that the Saints had a great d all year, and just sacked Brady one time. We sacked Brady one time. Brady was picking apart our defense in the first half by knowing who he was going to throw it to before he even snapped the ball.

“Who is Chandon Sullivan guarding? Okay throw it there”

“Oh Wil Redmon is on the field, okay throw it there.”

“Everyone is covered deep, here you go mr check down option.”

Thats how it was in the first half, in the second the d did fine. But are we really going to say Z isn’t an adequate leader when Kevin king gets beat and Pettine puts him in position to get roasted? We going to blame Z when he has a guy we all know cannot play (redmon) out there before the end of the half who aligator arms an easy INT as if it’s a grenade?

All the above complaints are for the first half.

Overall the defense did its job in this game. Our “historic” offense gave the Bucs the ball back before the half, gave them a red zone drive with the Jones fumble.

Even with all that they only gave up 31 points. It wasn’t a historic defensive leader we needed (even tho I’d love to have one). We needed a historic offensive leader who was willing to tell the coach we need to keep a TE in to help the tackles who are getting smoked, or a qb and coach who would be patient with the run and not panic.

Im ñot really pushing back and saying we don’t have some historic defensive leader on our defense, just saying Zadarius was a second team all pro who is doing his job for us. And I don’t think the loss had much to do with him. The shortcomings in the game were on #20, #33, #17, the two tackles, a small percent the qb, and the coach.

The team desperately needed the defense to step up and allow us to get back in the game in the second half...and they did just that.

texas wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2021 19:43

I boiled down what it is I am looking for on defense to an easier question: if we're down by several scores, are our guys going to hang their head on the bench or are they going to start swinging punches at the other team? I want the latter. Some of the enduring images of our at this point numerous NFCCG meltdowns have been our players on the bench with a sort of stoic or shellshocked look on their faces.

So I want to know if JJ is going to be the guy that starts cheap shotting their offensive players after the play is over. If so then welcome aboard.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2021 21:57

texas wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2021 19:43

I boiled down what it is I am looking for on defense to an easier question: if we're down by several scores, are our guys going to hang their head on the bench or are they going to start swinging punches at the other team? I want the latter. Some of the enduring images of our at this point numerous NFCCG meltdowns have been our players on the bench with a sort of stoic or shellshocked look on their faces.

So I want to know if JJ is going to be the guy that starts cheap shotting their offensive players after the play is over. If so then welcome aboard.

No way haha he will use the heartbreak to raise money for charity some how tho. He’s been very good at that. Props to him.

German_Panzer wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2021 07:22

BF004 wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2021 21:43

Yeah, absolutely silly. The guys was a wrecking crew against us this year.

TT would never touch such a guy and I always admired his consequency to stick to a plan. JJ is 30+, shows first signs of deterioration, has plenty of injuries in his past. No brainer not to take him. Those who disagree - that's my claim - are blinded by his reputation and image that usually survives a lot longer as well as by an romantic idea (home boy coming home at last).

texas wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2021 19:43

I boiled down what it is I am looking for on defense to an easier question: if we're down by several scores, are our guys going to hang their head on the bench or are they going to start swinging punches at the other team? I want the latter. Some of the enduring images of our at this point numerous NFCCG meltdowns have been our players on the bench with a sort of stoic or shellshocked look on their faces.

So I want to know if JJ is going to be the guy that starts cheap shotting their offensive players after the play is over. If so then welcome aboard.

GREEN BAY, Wis. – There’s a lot of work to be done financially but the Green Bay Packers are one of the teams interested in signing former Houston Texans All-Pro J.J. Watt.


On Friday, ESPN.com’s Ed Werder reported “approximately a dozen teams have shown interest” in Watt. A league source told Packer Central that Green Bay is one of those teams.

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2021 12:52

Reggie was 33 in 1993. Though without the injuries. He was dominant until he "retired" at age 38.

Half Empty wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2021 09:30

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2021 12:52

Reggie was 33 in 1993. Though without the injuries. He was dominant until he "retired" at age 38.

Pure curiosity - why the quotes on retired?

The Green Bay Packers signing All-Pro defensive lineman J.J. Watt is the "most likely'' scenario for the just-released former Houston Texans All-Pro, a source close to the situation tells TexansDaily.com.