Packers Huddle

williewasgreat wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 04:14

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2023 22:31

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2023 22:20

Oh brother. Gonna milk that some more?

I don’t need to milk anything. We will be spending more for players not on the team than the QB position. That’s a fact. When you carry that much dead cap you are $%@#. No way around it.

As for the team attitude that’s on the coach. LaFleur is a little puss boy. He stutters all over the place, sounds weak, and when he was up there at the podium practically in tears saying we need our QB back in the worst way I lost all respect for him as a leader.

Bakhtiari's attitude is on Bakhtiari. He also referred to the team as "they" not "we" which to me says a lot about his attitude. For someone who couldn't fight his way through the injuries to play, it tells me all I need to know about him.

I do not blame him for the injury recovery problems. Yes, the team is rebuilding, that is only being realistic. The question is how long it takes to rebuild, to find a competent TE and a proven Safety. Right now the only proven Safety has proven to be mediocre.

I disagree that the team is probably going to suck. If there are a lot of injuries, it could happen but that can happen to even the best teams. It could be the Packers end the season 8-9 or 9-8 and that is not my definition of "suck". Particularly not when they are likely to start a rookie at TE, an unproven 2nd year man or a rookie at slot WR, and a rookie or unproven player or Douglas at Safety. Plus, if they are playing well in December I will not be too concerned that they lost in September.

The way Bakh restructured his contract, especially the 2024 cap hit, is pretty strong evidence that he does not expect (or even want) to be back in GB in 2024.

His comments to me reflect the reality of a longtime vet who knows this is his final season with the Pack and his belief that even if Jordan Love has a promising season the team may still finish with a record like 6-10 — which is what GB was in Rodgers’ first year in 2008 after being in the NFC Championship game the year before.

It would not shock me if Bakh gets traded to a LT hungry contender.

BF004 wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 06:35

Man, I listened to the whole thing prior to it becoming viral, and I had no issue with it. Just thought he was genuine and was speaking in hypotheticals if you listen to it all in context. I had zero issue with it, found the whole
Interview very refreshing for someone to be so candid, on all things. Sucks this blew up like it did, because now others will be more likely to stay reserved and say only pc garbage.

Guessing the high drama folks didn’t listen to the whole thing, just you know, love them some drama.

I listened to the whole thing. I agree that it’s being overblown on Twitter but everything is overblown on Twitter. I agree that the whole thing isn’t as bad as the sound bites.

But I still think that a veteran leader floating a hypothetical indicating that he feasibly believes that management might be expecting the team to suck was unpleasant to the ears of a fan.

Further, he indicated that he “hoped” that wouldn’t be the case, but didn’t indicate that he “thought” It wouldn’t be the case.

Again, he said lots of things in this interview and I did think it was a really interesting, positive interaction overall. It really gave insight into his mindset and I loved the discussion of the NFLPA stuff and his faith in JC Tretter to move things in the right direction.

I also thought his mentality of controlling only what he can control is healthy and shows that he’s playing for love of the game, regardless of where (he thinks) the team is. He specifically said he didn’t want out, which carries extra weight from a guy who earlier pointed out that the team is in a rebuild whether you want to say so or not. He’s dedicated.

I’m just so strongly in the middle ground on this. It isn’t the emergency freak out that people are having. I read nothing into saying “they” especially because he was talking a lot about management perspective. But I also think it’s a noteworthy read on our veteran leader to hear that he’s thinking of this as a rebuild and he recognizes that the *team* might not have any expectations to compete this year. That’s not a negative so much as it is a lack of a positive. It’s not that what he said is terrible, but I’d prefer if our leadership had a different mentality than he displayed

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 08:24

I also thought his mentality of controlling only what he can control is healthy and shows that he’s playing for love of the game, regardless of where (he thinks) the team is. He specifically said he didn’t want out, which carries extra weight from a guy who earlier pointed out that the team is in a rebuild whether you want to say so or not. He’s dedicated.

He has a ton to play for, outside of just pride and love of the game. He is flirting with a borderline HOF resume. If he wins like a comeback player of the year, 2 more pro bowls, or one more all pro, I thinks it’s more likely than not he gets in.

BF004 wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 06:35

Man, I listened to the whole thing prior to it becoming viral, and I had no issue with it. Just thought he was genuine and was speaking in hypotheticals if you listen to it all in context. I had zero issue with it, found the whole
Interview very refreshing for someone to be so candid, on all things. Sucks this blew up like it did, because now others will be more likely to stay reserved and say only pc garbage.

Guessing the high drama folks didn’t listen to the whole thing, just you know, love them some drama.

It was so interesting listening to the discussion concerning junk exposure and non exposure in the showers,

I fast forward for most of it, he didn't say anything most here havn't already thought, even I have to admit the Packers have a tough road ahead this season, however as Bahk said he hopes the team can do well, and I expect they could win 10 games, changing QB's doesn't translate to rebuild for me, again Love imho is further along and more ready then Rodgers was his first season starting

Yoop wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 08:32

I fast forward for most of it, he didn't say anything most here havn't already thought...

APB wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 14:52

Yoop wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 08:32

I fast forward for most of it, he didn't say anything most here havn't already thought...

thanks for the input

It's worth noting because I think a lot here respect him, but Ben Fennell posted the clip with a vague sentence like "I don't even know how this franchise deals with accountability or expectations" or something like that, and when flooded with requests for follow up or other vague Twitter mob info, the tweet was deleted with no comment to my knowledge.

So that either means he tweeted, found out something more, and changed his mind? Or he tweeted criticism and decided the mob wasn't worth it and deleted it.

Anyway, that's to say it's not just over-sensitive fans or click-bait media who found that interview notable. Unless you consider Ben Fennell in one of those two categories.

Yoop wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 15:03

APB wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 14:52

Yoop wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2023 08:32

I fast forward for most of it, he didn't say anything most here havn't already thought...

thanks for the input

Yoop - read your own words. You undermine your own opinion from the very get go.

How can you express any opinion on this whatsoever when you readily admit you didn’t even bother to listen to it??

bleacher report wont allow tagging there link so hear ya go, TE provides the best production for the money if ya have a good one, and we seem to be interested in drafting a TE, 6 TE's over 100 targets, offensive evolution is in high gear

Evolution of Tight Ends Changes How Position Should Be Valued in Today's NFL

An offense's No. 1 receiver doesn't need to be a wide receiver.

The tight end position is more than capable of serving as a team's primary threat in the passing game. It already is in some instances, though it's not treated as such even as the game's financial landscape drastically changes.

Last season, six tight ends were on the other end of 100 or more targets. The Baltimore Ravens' Mark Andrews led the way with 107 receptions for 1,361 yards on 153 targets. Over the last five seasons, the top tight end averaged 143 targets. This trend started approximately 15 seasons ago when Tony Gonzalez posted back-to-back 150-target campaigns.

Yet the tight end market hasn't experienced the same type of inflation wide receiver has in recent months. In 2007, Marvin Harrison was the game's highest-paid wide receiver at $8.4 million, according to Over the Cap. Gonzalez made $4.5 million during that campaign.

This offseason alone, nine wide receivers signed deals with an average annual salary between $20 and $30 million. For comparison, the San Francisco 49ers' George Kittle is the game's highest-paid tight end. His deal is worth $75 million in total and $15 million annually. Those numbers would rank 10th and 24th, respectively, among wide receivers.

The top performers at the position have taken notice, especially after teams used three of the eight franchise tags for 2022 on tight ends. Why? Because it was a cheaper alternative at a mere $10.9 million this season.

Of those three, they're all headed in different directions.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-gm-power-r ... witter_atn

Just going to leave this right here...

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023 20:01

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-gm-power-r ... witter_atn

Just going to leave this right here...

Just more pro-Gutey propaganda from the lamestream media! /s

Seriously, I think I'd have flipped 1 and 2, and had Gutey ahead of the Lions guy.

After last year, I think Schneider should be higher. That was amazing management, really what we should have done. I also think a few people ahead of Gute are a bit overrated.

But honestly, pretty much every GM under 13 actually sucks.

hind sight is 20/20, the only reason Guty ranks 8 is because of Rodgers and Love, get a first for Rodgers and he jumps up a couple spots, if Love becomes a home run he jumps up and competes for the top spot.

people always complain about the Rams GM selling the future, but he won a SB doing so, and Philly has become the home for UFA with a little gas left in the tank, they took notes from Billy B and NE, but now it seems there run might be over.

I'd expect this list flops with every draft class

Looking forward to seeing Gutey without an MVP at qb 2 of the 4 years he was in charge. Hope he does well.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2023 18:25

Looking forward to seeing Gutey without an MVP at qb 2 of the 4 years he was in charge. Hope he does well.

I hope so as well.

Can't wait for Love to be a roaring success, so that you'll get to start a new "let's see Gutey/MLF do it without Love" -schtick.

salmar80 wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2023 03:25

Drj820 wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2023 18:25

Looking forward to seeing Gutey without an MVP at qb 2 of the 4 years he was in charge. Hope he does well.

I hope so as well.

Can't wait for Love to be a roaring success, so that you'll get to start a new "let's see Gutey/MLF do it without Love" -schtick.

Gutey would get all credit for love’s success due to drafting him, obviously.

Thanks for being a smarta** though. Much cool.

Has this been posted yet? Don't remember hearing about it.

Packers released DB Vernon Scott.

Scott, a 2020 seventh-round pick, was injured during the preseason and spent last year on IR. He appeared in 18 games for the Packers from 2020-2021. With Adrian Amos and Scott departing this offseason, the Packers are expected to add a safety in the draft.

Seems a little odd considering all the other losses at the position.

APB wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2023 11:58

Has this been posted yet? Don't remember hearing about it.

Packers released DB Vernon Scott.

Scott, a 2020 seventh-round pick, was injured during the preseason and spent last year on IR. He appeared in 18 games for the Packers from 2020-2021. With Adrian Amos and Scott departing this offseason, the Packers are expected to add a safety in the draft.

Seems a little odd considering all the other losses at the position.

I haven't seen it posted, no, but it does seem like Innis Gaines and Rudy Ford were way ahead of him in the playtime rotation, so they probably feel pretty confident that whatever developmental capability he had isn't developing. I think we have PLENTY of bodies at safety, so losing one isn't that important. The question is can any of them play safety well enough to be NFL starters, rather than rotational DBs with ST acumen; Scott seemed to have placed himself in that latter camp

APB wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2023 11:58

Has this been posted yet? Don't remember hearing about it.

Packers released DB Vernon Scott.

Scott, a 2020 seventh-round pick, was injured during the preseason and spent last year on IR. He appeared in 18 games for the Packers from 2020-2021. With Adrian Amos and Scott departing this offseason, the Packers are expected to add a safety in the draft.

Seems a little odd considering all the other losses at the position.

He hasn't been on the team for a while. Blogger Andy Herman questioned it last January and asked West Hod about it because there was no news on his release.

Wes said his locker has been cleared out for months. I find it interesting it took this long to finally make it official.