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Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 11:33
by go pak go
lupedafiasco wrote:
14 Oct 2020 11:18
Pckfn23 wrote:
14 Oct 2020 10:18
Don't need to be a fan, but do listen to reason. He is playing well.
Average.
For a Free Agent RT at $7 million per year.

I will take average. Average is a huge win for a contract like that. I mean if Turner/Wagner can buy us two years or so of solid RT play and let us draft and develop a good RT this upcoming draft as the replacement....that is tremendous success.

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 11:39
by BSA
Turner learned Ravens, Dolphins, Broncos offenses before coming to GB and now he's in year 2 with MLF and Stenavich- so there's a chance he improves and some say he already has. The other part about FA OL is that he spent the first 5 years of his career blocking AFC DL- and now he has to learn the nuances of battling NFC DL. That's one area where Wagner has more experience coming in

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 11:45
by YoHoChecko
go pak go wrote:
14 Oct 2020 11:33
I will take average. Average is a huge win for a contract like that. I mean if Turner/Wagner can buy us two years or so of solid RT play and let us draft and develop a good RT this upcoming draft as the replacement....that is tremendous success.
Yup, and as I've mentioned, it's a GREAT year to draft and develop a RT

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 11:52
by go pak go
BSA wrote:
14 Oct 2020 11:39
Turner learned Ravens, Dolphins, Broncos offenses before coming to GB and now he's in year 2 with MLF and Stenavich- so there's a chance he improves and some say he already has. The other part about FA OL is that he spent the first 5 years of his career blocking AFC DL- and now he has to learn the nuances of battling NFC DL. That's one area where Wagner has more experience coming in
And again oh by the way.

Billy Turner has the highest win rate of any RT in the NFL who has played more than 75 snaps.

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 15:07
by BF004

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 15:52
by go pak go
Man. Talk about the ultimate find and him working with us and not Philly.

What a steal he has been.

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 19:27
by Christo
go pak go wrote:
14 Oct 2020 15:52
Man. Talk about the ultimate find and him working with us and not Philly.

What a steal he has been.
Even more crazy, the Eagles have been moaning about the need for DBs since they released him.

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 07:06
by NCF

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 09:26
by BF004
I didn’t realize there was such a thing.


Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 09:54
by BSA
BF004 wrote:
15 Oct 2020 09:26
I didn’t realize there was such a thing.
I remember reading about him a few years back. Aaron Jones had injured his knee and was out for a game or two. Then somebody posted about the size of his brothers' legs and said Aaron needed to follow suit and beef up his lower body. This one is kinda interesting, either the Packers are interested in having both brothers or they are just bringing him in to boost interest around the league as a favor to the Jones family

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 10:04
by go pak go
Me thinks is this is a low cost but smart move to build up goodwill with Aaron Jones during a contract year.

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 10:07
by go pak go
I cannot wait to see Josh Jackson shut down Mike Evans this Sunday.

This is your time Josh.

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 10:30
by Labrev
I will take Alvin sight unseen over Oren!!!!! :o

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 10:46
by YoHoChecko
go pak go wrote:
14 Oct 2020 15:52
Man. Talk about the ultimate find and him working with us and not Philly.

What a steal he has been.
We get Sullivan, they get Fulgham, haha

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 13:14
by NCF
Is that good? No, seriously, is that good? It's good, isn't it?


Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 14:00
by Pckfn23
NCF wrote:
15 Oct 2020 13:14
Is that good? No, seriously, is that good? It's good, isn't it?

What is the X axis? Does that chart the play of the QB?

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 14:07
by go pak go
Labrev wrote:
15 Oct 2020 10:30
I will take Alvin sight unseen over Oren!!!!! :o
Honestly, I am watching the Falcons film and he's not terrible in his new found limited role.

He does have a knack for coverage and awareness.

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 15:20
by NCF
Pckfn23 wrote:
15 Oct 2020 14:00
What is the X axis? Does that chart the play of the QB?
Some kind of measure of efficiency. Expected Points Added/Play + Completion % over Expected.

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 16:06
by Pckfn23
NCF wrote:
15 Oct 2020 15:20
Pckfn23 wrote:
15 Oct 2020 14:00
What is the X axis? Does that chart the play of the QB?
Some kind of measure of efficiency. Expected Points Added/Play + Completion % over Expected.
Ok. The way I would read it then:

Quadrant I: efficient QB play and good offense
Quadrant II: less efficient QB play and good offense (supporting cast propping up QB play)
Quadrant III: less efficient QB play and poor offense
Quadrant IV: efficient QB play and poor offense (supporting cast not supporting QB)

Am I wrong on this?

Re: General Packers News 2020

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 16:17
by Pckfn23