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Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 15 Oct 2020 16:44
by Labrev
go pak go wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020 14:07
Labrev wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020 10:30
I will take Alvin sight unseen over Oren!!!!!
Honestly, I am watching the Falcons film and he's not terrible in his new found limited role.
He does have a knack for coverage and awareness.
I almost forgot he played at all. Come to think of it, I do remember 1 play where he was out there on coverage while the Falcons were in the RZ. I could see him being a useful niche cover-OLB, kinda like Chillar those two years, but that's about it. I wonder if a move to S would do any good...
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 15 Oct 2020 16:48
by go pak go
Labrev wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020 16:44
go pak go wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020 14:07
Labrev wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020 10:30
I will take Alvin sight unseen over Oren!!!!!
Honestly, I am watching the Falcons film and he's not terrible in his new found limited role.
He does have a knack for coverage and awareness.
I almost forgot he played at all. Come to think of it, I do remember 1 play where he was out there on coverage while the Falcons were in the RZ. I could see him being a useful niche cover-OLB, kinda like Chillar those two years, but that's about it. I wonder if a move to S would do any good...
Yup. He lined up as a stand up interior lineman on that play and dropped in coverage and covered the RB well enough and long enough for Ryan to take a look at the opposite side of field and it ended up incomplete.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 15 Oct 2020 17:02
by Packfntk
Twitter is down and I just realized how much I depend on it for Packers/NFL news.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 15 Oct 2020 18:45
by Pckfn23
The offensive lineman with the most pass-blocking snaps to not allow a pressure this season (158) - Corey Linsley
#GoPackGo
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Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 10:41
by BF004
I mean at this rate, Aaron is going nowhere 2021 or 2022, so I would certainly consider doing this to some degree, given the cap outlooks of 2021, 2022 and beyond.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 10:41
by BF004
I mean at this rate, Aaron is going nowhere 2021 or 2022, so I would certainly consider doing this to some degree, given the cap outlooks of 2021, 2022 and beyond.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 10:41
by BF004
I mean at this rate, Aaron is going nowhere 2021 or 2022, so I would certainly consider doing this to some degree, given the cap outlooks of 2021, 2022 and beyond.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 10:57
by YoHoChecko
BF004 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020 10:41
I mean at this rate, Aaron is going nowhere 2021 or 2022, so I would certainly consider doing this to some degree, given the cap outlooks of 2021, 2022 and beyond.
No. They've already done the push. It would be silly to push more Rodgers money back, even if they're keeping him for 21 and 22, which I would expect them to. There are other things that can be done. And again, I don't understand why there's so much focus on 2022 and beyond right now.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 11:10
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020 10:57
And again, I don't understand why there's so much focus on 2022 and beyond right now.
We got a good thing going and we want to keep it that way... what's not to get?
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 11:14
by YoHoChecko
NCF wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020 11:10
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020 10:57
And again, I don't understand why there's so much focus on 2022 and beyond right now.
We got a good thing going and we want to keep it that way... what's not to get?
To me it feels like "we got a good thing going and we're so focused on how and whether we can keep it that way that we're not allowing ourselves to live in and enjoy the present and the current season's journey as much as we should."
Like, how much of "general packers news" thread is about potential future contracts? It's gotta be half the thread. And there's gotta be a lot more football news than contract news, ya know, in the middle of football season.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 11:34
by go pak go
I just think it's too early to get too much into the weeds about 2021 salary cap when we don't know what the cap will actually look like.
Every team will be in the same spot if they just make it a hard cut and all the teams need to make due.
We are then looking at insane levels of dead cap in 2021 and insane levels of cut and unemployed players which will lead to incredibly suppressed and reduced market value for players in 2021.
None of this makes sense. Nobody in their right mind can think losing fan favorite players because of a reduction in cap and revenue is good for the league or the players.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 13:00
by BSA
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020 11:34
Nobody in their right mind can think losing fan favorite players because of a reduction in cap and revenue is good for the league or the players
agreed
if each owner sells just one of their yachts, they should be able to close the cap-gap with little trouble.
Shad Khan of the Jags already put his up for sale, only $ 199 Million for that one
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 13:17
by BF004
So my take it, say all these amazing players hit FA because no one has money to sign them. Who the hell is going to sign those FA's.
I think there are going to be a lot of total steals sitting out there late in FA, guys who will play on 1 year deals for about half of what they should get annually.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 13:23
by lupedafiasco
BF004 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020 13:17
So my take it, say all these amazing players hit FA because no one has money to sign them. Who the hell is going to sign those FA's.
I think there are going to be a lot of total steals sitting out there late in FA, guys who will play on 1 year deals for about half of what they should get annually.
I agree. We are going to see a ton of guys taking one year deals betting on themselves.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 13:29
by Drj820
I don’t see the owners letting the cap reduce dramatically. They lost money from fans in the stands, but they know the tv money is as strong as ever and not going anywhere. I see them spreading the losses out over several years so that no one year is obvious that the league lost money this year. (If it did)
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 13:38
by Pckfn23
BF004 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020 13:17
So my take it, say all these amazing players hit FA because no one has money to sign them. Who the hell is going to sign those FA's.
I think there are going to be a lot of total steals sitting out there late in FA, guys who will play on 1 year deals for about half of what they should get annually.
That's why I do not think a reduction in the salary cap will happen. I think with the TV deal looming they will steal from the future to supplement 2021.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 14:17
by BF004
I think the owner's are being smart too knowing the players who are playing next year are going to want to push that hit down the road. A large majority of these players won't be playing in 2024, so they will want that cash today for sure. I think the owner's will be okay doing it, just as long as they get a little something in return.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 14:47
by Drj820
How big of a hit do we really expect the NFL to take?
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/p ... e%20profit.
According to the above article, The average teams pure profit margin from ticket sales is only 8%, and the average team only brings in about $7 million dollars in ticket revenue per game. So that would be about 7 x (8 homes) = 56million in revenue from ticket sales per season. And it says about 55% of that number is used to pay the athlete. I guess I do recognize that as a loss of money, but in terms of how massive the NFL is and how big their revenue is..it seems like peanuts to me.
I certainly see where BIG money will be lost if they do not get all 17 weeks of games in, but if they get all the money from tv due to playing every week...Where is the colossal loss going to come from?
Its not like NBA that had to support a bubble, or the MLB that had to cut the season in half.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 15:43
by BF004
Ticket sales doesn’t include concessions. Most stadiums, including Lambeau, have ballrooms and conference rooms that can be rented, expanded roster sizes and practice squads, they are spending millions on testing. Prolly quite a few things I’m not thinking of.
There was no draft event and subsequent income, there will be no pro bowl.
Its all gunna add up sure.
Re: General Packers News 2020
Posted: 16 Oct 2020 16:19
by BSA
local money is HUGE and each team gets to keep a bigger chunk of their local revenue.
For 2019, local cash for GB was $ 207 million, for 2020 it will be a pittance.
Back of the napkin math: If you take $100M per team in lost local cash x 32 teams = 3.2 Billion
For a $ 15B industry, that's a 20 % loss of revenue and puts the cap around $160M, they agreed to a floor of $ 175M
They'll make up some with Tuesday night football and MNF doubleheaders. Packers-Bucs is essentially a SNF broadcast in terms of ad money
Add in the $$ for advertising tarps covering the first 10 rows of seats and other creative ways to make up the revenue shortfall and I think they'll be above $175M. IF they get fans for playoffs, that's another boost.