Re: Jordan Love 2023 Expectation/Player Comparison
Posted: 20 Nov 2023 14:41
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Frankly both QBs played about the same.
Love has 3 good - great games: Chicago, LAR, LAClupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:01Love gives the appearance of having a weaker arm because he underthrows a lot and hangs up a lot of ducks. It makes it look like hes just really doesnt have the arm.
Really he just lacks some consistency and is an inaccurate QB as evidenced by his completion percentages across the season. Hes really only thrown 2 good games IMO between the Rams and Chargers and the rest hes been a bad QB. I think most will find that to be harsh but hes not going to survive turning the ballover at this rate and not being able to complete passes at a better clip. Hes 30th in completion percentage and is 3rd in INTs while just being 22nd in yards per pass thrown. These are all really bad numbers. Bottom of the league bad numbers.
100%. I had posted that earlier before the 3 pages of 44 yard line, lol. I really watched both QB's and didn't really feel like there was that much of a drop off from Herbert to Love. Sure, you can say that Love did this against a bad defense, but it we're saying Herbert is that much better, then he should have thrown for 400+ yards considering we're missing Jaire and Rasul.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 14:53Frankly both QBs played about the same.
Herbert had 2 TDs and 70 yards taken away from him by his receivers. An honest evaluation should be Love and Herbert played pretty equal yesterday.
But had Herbert won with Allen and Johnson not dropping the passess...budfox would be posting
Herbert was the better quarterback. His team won
Even though again both QBs largely had an equal day. Both played well.
Might be a bit of chess going on. Love lit it up the first 2 weeks, teams figured out how to rattle him by having film on him, and now Love has been able to figure out how to overcome it.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:08Love has 3 good - great games: Chicago, LAR, LAClupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:01Love gives the appearance of having a weaker arm because he underthrows a lot and hangs up a lot of ducks. It makes it look like hes just really doesnt have the arm.
Really he just lacks some consistency and is an inaccurate QB as evidenced by his completion percentages across the season. Hes really only thrown 2 good games IMO between the Rams and Chargers and the rest hes been a bad QB. I think most will find that to be harsh but hes not going to survive turning the ballover at this rate and not being able to complete passes at a better clip. Hes 30th in completion percentage and is 3rd in INTs while just being 22nd in yards per pass thrown. These are all really bad numbers. Bottom of the league bad numbers.
Love has 2 decent games: ATL, PIT
Love has 3 below average games: NO, MN, DEN
Love has 2 bad games: Raiders and Lions
Love was bad Week 3 - Week 7. But the last 3 weeks has been good and reason for optimism.
I didn't say arm strength - I said a good arm.
That is crazy. Take away the drops and Chargers win.Acrobat wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:10100%. I had posted that earlier before the 3 pages of 44 yard line, lol. I really watched both QB's and didn't really feel like there was that much of a drop off from Herbert to Love. Sure, you can say that Love did this against a bad defense, but it we're saying Herbert is that much better, then he should have thrown for 400+ yards considering we're missing Jaire and Rasul.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 14:53Frankly both QBs played about the same.
Herbert had 2 TDs and 70 yards taken away from him by his receivers. An honest evaluation should be Love and Herbert played pretty equal yesterday.
But had Herbert won with Allen and Johnson not dropping the passess...budfox would be posting
Herbert was the better quarterback. His team won
Even though again both QBs largely had an equal day. Both played well.
You think Love is better than Herbert.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 14:53Frankly both QBs played about the same.
Herbert had 2 TDs and 70 yards taken away from him by his receivers. An honest evaluation should be Love and Herbert played pretty equal yesterday.
But had Herbert won with Allen and Johnson not dropping the passess...budfox would be posting
Herbert was the better quarterback. His team won
Even though again both QBs largely had an equal day. Both played well.
Probably because I went in without any bias.bud fox wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:26That is crazy. Take away the drops and Chargers win.Acrobat wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:10100%. I had posted that earlier before the 3 pages of 44 yard line, lol. I really watched both QB's and didn't really feel like there was that much of a drop off from Herbert to Love. Sure, you can say that Love did this against a bad defense, but it we're saying Herbert is that much better, then he should have thrown for 400+ yards considering we're missing Jaire and Rasul.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 14:53
Frankly both QBs played about the same.
Herbert had 2 TDs and 70 yards taken away from him by his receivers. An honest evaluation should be Love and Herbert played pretty equal yesterday.
But had Herbert won with Allen and Johnson not dropping the passess...budfox would be posting
Herbert was the better quarterback. His team won
Even though again both QBs largely had an equal day. Both played well.
I don't know how anyone could have watched that game yesterday and not see from throwing the ball etc that Herbert is better.
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:01Love gives the appearance of having a weaker arm because he underthrows a lot and hangs up a lot of ducks. It makes it look like hes just really doesnt have the arm.
Really he just lacks some consistency and is an inaccurate QB as evidenced by his completion percentages across the season. Hes really only thrown 2 good games IMO between the Rams and Chargers and the rest hes been a bad QB. I think most will find that to be harsh but hes not going to survive turning the ballover at this rate and not being able to complete passes at a better clip. Hes 30th in completion percentage and is 3rd in INTs while just being 22nd in yards per pass thrown. These are all really bad numbers. Bottom of the league bad numbers.
No I don't think Love is better than Herbert. I think Herbert in the aggregate is currently viewed as a better QB and should be. He has played well and has played more games.bud fox wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:30You think Love is better than Herbert.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 14:53Frankly both QBs played about the same.
Herbert had 2 TDs and 70 yards taken away from him by his receivers. An honest evaluation should be Love and Herbert played pretty equal yesterday.
But had Herbert won with Allen and Johnson not dropping the passess...budfox would be posting
Herbert was the better quarterback. His team won
Even though again both QBs largely had an equal day. Both played well.
Does anyone actually watch games or just read box scores. Herbert has a very good arm. He also moved the chains with his legs. His receivers dropping balls, rb slower than BJ Raji and oline couldnt block 4man rush. Still he was shooting lasers.
It baffles my mind how much joy Packers fans get when we lose.APB wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 17:15lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:01Love gives the appearance of having a weaker arm because he underthrows a lot and hangs up a lot of ducks. It makes it look like hes just really doesnt have the arm.
Really he just lacks some consistency and is an inaccurate QB as evidenced by his completion percentages across the season. Hes really only thrown 2 good games IMO between the Rams and Chargers and the rest hes been a bad QB. I think most will find that to be harsh but hes not going to survive turning the ballover at this rate and not being able to complete passes at a better clip. Hes 30th in completion percentage and is 3rd in INTs while just being 22nd in yards per pass thrown. These are all really bad numbers. Bottom of the league bad numbers.
Your continued unreasonable demand for perfection and your focus on his early game struggles skews your perception of how Love has actually improved of late and how he compares to his contemporaries over the course of the season. Yeah, sure, he doesn't compare to prime Rodgers but he's not near as bad, relative to his peers, as you consistently paint him.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:01Love gives the appearance of having a weaker arm because he underthrows a lot and hangs up a lot of ducks. It makes it look like hes just really doesnt have the arm.
Really he just lacks some consistency and is an inaccurate QB as evidenced by his completion percentages across the season. Hes really only thrown 2 good games IMO between the Rams and Chargers and the rest hes been a bad QB. I think most will find that to be harsh but hes not going to survive turning the ballover at this rate and not being able to complete passes at a better clip. Hes 30th in completion percentage and is 3rd in INTs while just being 22nd in yards per pass thrown. These are all really bad numbers. Bottom of the league bad numbers.
And if we want to do that the Packers have played in the past 3 weeks the 28th, 22nd, 18th. We aren’t facing juggernauts. Love looked terrific against the 28th. Slightly above average at best against the 22nd, and terrible against the 18th.APB wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 17:50Your continued unreasonable demand for perfection and your focus on his early game struggles skews your perception of how Love has actually improved of late and how he compares to his contemporaries over the course of the season. Yeah, sure, he doesn't compare to prime Rodgers but he's not near as bad, relative to his peers, as you consistently paint him.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 15:01Love gives the appearance of having a weaker arm because he underthrows a lot and hangs up a lot of ducks. It makes it look like hes just really doesnt have the arm.
Really he just lacks some consistency and is an inaccurate QB as evidenced by his completion percentages across the season. Hes really only thrown 2 good games IMO between the Rams and Chargers and the rest hes been a bad QB. I think most will find that to be harsh but hes not going to survive turning the ballover at this rate and not being able to complete passes at a better clip. Hes 30th in completion percentage and is 3rd in INTs while just being 22nd in yards per pass thrown. These are all really bad numbers. Bottom of the league bad numbers.