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Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 10:34
by YoHoChecko
Just throwing some measurables out at some of the common comps.

Kraft and Goedert both went to the same school, so I thought the comps would be lazy, but they look darn close.

Musgrave and Kelce is WILDLY optimisatic, but the numbers really line up, as has been mentioned other places.

I also listed Kincaid's size just to emphasize that he's the shortest and lightest and even before he broke his back and missed testing, was not assumed to be a much different athlete than these guys, but I wouldn't have been shocked if Kincaid's c.o.d. numbers were the best of this group, had he been healthy enough to try them

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Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 10:50
by BF004
YoHoChecko wrote:
29 Apr 2023 10:34
optimisatic

Is this a typo or a fun new word? Either way, it’s in my vocabulary now. :lol:

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 10:54
by NCF
BF004 wrote:
29 Apr 2023 10:50
YoHoChecko wrote:
29 Apr 2023 10:34
optimisatic

Is this a typo or a fun new word? Either way, it’s in my vocabulary now. :lol:
That is a little dicktacious of you.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:01
by salmar80
NCF wrote:
29 Apr 2023 10:54
BF004 wrote:
29 Apr 2023 10:50
YoHoChecko wrote:
29 Apr 2023 10:34
optimisatic

Is this a typo or a fun new word? Either way, it’s in my vocabulary now. :lol:
That is a little dicktacious of you.
Couldn't find that in my dicktionary. Thanks for edjaculating me on all these words. :idea:

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:21
by YoHoChecko

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:24
by lupedafiasco
YoHoChecko wrote:
29 Apr 2023 11:21
I do think both have high bust potential. Especially Kraft because the talent gap but I think Musgrave will develop nicely into a Gesecki type at the very worst.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:33
by go pak go
For those wanting to compare Tucker Kraft to Dallas Goedert, coming from a South Dakota boy....Tucker Kraft is significantly better than Dallas Goedert.

Kraft has a colorful personality (think Kelce, Kittle, Gronk personality)
Kraft is a better blocker. I mean SDSU absolutely oblitereated teams. Like it was watching a college team play a high school team in the postseason.
Kraft showed up more in big games. Kraft was an NDSU killa.

I cannot understate how I excited I am about our tight ends. Because from all that excitement over Kraft...Musgrave is the best TE prospect in this class. I have felt that way for a long time and never dreamed he would be available to us in Rd 2.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:38
by YoHoChecko
lupedafiasco wrote:
29 Apr 2023 11:24
I do think both have high bust potential. Especially Kraft because the talent gap but I think Musgrave will develop nicely into a Gesecki type at the very worst.
Our draft, as much as I like it, is very risky. All of our prospects are high-upside guys with questions about their production except for Reed; Reed has questions about his other stuff, but not his production.

I like the high upside dice rolls in large quantities. Buy more high-payout tickets, better chance of a big winner.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:43
by go pak go
YoHoChecko wrote:
29 Apr 2023 11:38
lupedafiasco wrote:
29 Apr 2023 11:24
I do think both have high bust potential. Especially Kraft because the talent gap but I think Musgrave will develop nicely into a Gesecki type at the very worst.
Our draft, as much as I like it, is very risky. All of our prospects are high-upside guys with questions about their production except for Reed; Reed has questions about his other stuff, but not his production.

I like the high upside dice rolls in large quantities. Buy more high-payout tickets, better chance of a big winner.
Yup. High Ceiling is the theme of the 2023 NFL draft.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 11:45
by YoHoChecko
go pak go wrote:
29 Apr 2023 11:33
For those wanting to compare Tucker Kraft to Dallas Goedert, coming from a South Dakota boy....Tucker Kraft is significantly better than Dallas Goedert.

Kraft has a colorful personality (think Kelce, Kittle, Gronk personality)
Kraft is a better blocker. I mean SDSU absolutely oblitereated teams. Like it was watching a college team play a high school team in the postseason.
Kraft showed up more in big games. Kraft was an NDSU killa.

I cannot understate how I excited I am about our tight ends. Because from all that excitement over Kraft...Musgrave is the best TE prospect in this class. I have felt that way for a long time and never dreamed he would be available to us in Rd 2.
Good! Thanks for sharing 8-)

Goedert was, as I recall, a famously poor blocker; so that doesn't surprise me. Same school, same athletic profile, but different skillsets and demeanor. Fun times.

I feel like his competitiveness and personality will help get the best out of Musgrave, whose personality and competitiveness seems good/fine, but these two coming in together could be a fun race to playing time as friendly motivation--even though they'll have different usage.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 12:34
by YoHoChecko
So we're going to need to find a kicker, huh?

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 12:39
by Yoop
go pak go wrote:
29 Apr 2023 11:33
For those wanting to compare Tucker Kraft to Dallas Goedert, coming from a South Dakota boy....Tucker Kraft is significantly better than Dallas Goedert.

Kraft has a colorful personality (think Kelce, Kittle, Gronk personality)
Kraft is a better blocker. I mean SDSU absolutely oblitereated teams. Like it was watching a college team play a high school team in the postseason.
Kraft showed up more in big games. Kraft was an NDSU killa.

I cannot understate how I excited I am about our tight ends. Because from all that excitement over Kraft...Musgrave is the best TE prospect in this class. I have felt that way for a long time and never dreamed he would be available to us in Rd 2.
I liked KIncaid more, but I had Musgrave # 3 right behind Mayer, and certainly more then Laporta, games played in college held Musgrave back imo.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 12:42
by go pak go
Yoop wrote:
29 Apr 2023 12:39
go pak go wrote:
29 Apr 2023 11:33
For those wanting to compare Tucker Kraft to Dallas Goedert, coming from a South Dakota boy....Tucker Kraft is significantly better than Dallas Goedert.

Kraft has a colorful personality (think Kelce, Kittle, Gronk personality)
Kraft is a better blocker. I mean SDSU absolutely oblitereated teams. Like it was watching a college team play a high school team in the postseason.
Kraft showed up more in big games. Kraft was an NDSU killa.

I cannot understate how I excited I am about our tight ends. Because from all that excitement over Kraft...Musgrave is the best TE prospect in this class. I have felt that way for a long time and never dreamed he would be available to us in Rd 2.
I liked KIncaid more, but I had Musgrave # 3 right behind Mayer, and certainly more then Laporta, games played in college held Musgrave back imo.
I'm not going to devalue a guy because of injury. If anything that is a steal for us because you have to rely on projection.

Kincaid doesn't even try to block. Musgrave is willing. It is why I was much more on the Musgrave train than the Kincaid train. I need my tight ends to at least try and block.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 15:54
by RingoCStarrQB
Training Camp is going to be awesome this year. So much talent............so much anticipation.............so much positive vibe. :aok:

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 15:57
by Scott4Pack
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
29 Apr 2023 15:54
Training Camp is going to be awesome this year. So much talent............so much anticipation.............so much positive vibe. :aok:
Goal for 2023: Keep these guys healthy and let them grow!
:-)

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 22:26
by Drj820


Strange response imo

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 22:28
by Pckfn23
Wonder if they are trying to get a longer deal done.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 23:44
by Backthepack4ever
This matters. What an awesome person. I'm pushing what's she selling. We drank and laughed together tonight and she's gonna be the next big thing.


Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 29 Apr 2023 23:45
by Backthepack4ever
Backthepack4ever wrote:
29 Apr 2023 23:44
This matters. What an awesome person. I'm pushing what's she selling. We drank and laughed together tonight and she's gonna be the next big thing. She s packer fan...from Detroit living in Chicago hahahah.


Re: Green Bay Packers News 2023

Posted: 30 Apr 2023 03:52
by Tooothsome Jeb
YoHoChecko wrote:
26 Apr 2023 21:08
Carpenter plays defense? :lol:
He's still on the practice squad?