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Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 24 Jul 2022 10:05
by RingoCStarrQB
Seasons: Favre 16, Rodgers 16
First Team All-Pro: Favre 3, Rodgers 4
All-Pro: Favre 6, Rodgers 5
Touchdown Passes: Favre 442, Rodgers 449
MVPs: Favre 3, Rodgers 4
Interceptions: Favre 289, Rodgers 93
Passing Yardage: Favre 61,655, Rodgers 55,360
NFC Championships: Favre 2, Rodgers 1
Super Bowl Wins: Favre 1, Rodgers 1
Playoff Wins: Favre 12, Rodgers 11
Playoff Losses: Favre 10, Rodgers 10
Consecutive Games: Favre 253, Rodgers 
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 24 Jul 2022 11:13
by wallyuwl
4 only sat a little over a year, 12 sat 3 years. But still surprised how many lean toward 4.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 24 Jul 2022 12:13
by go pak go
Yeah. Definitely have to acknowledge that Favre has two seasons on Rodgers.
But I was very, very confident Rodgers would have a significantly better career than Favre.
Surprised to see the outcome.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 24 Jul 2022 20:58
by Drj820
Favre was epic. No surprise to me his numbers look like they do. Also gotta remember the state of the franchise before Favre came. He resurrected the body. Rodgers came in and took the keys to a luxury sports car.
Favre just threw picks, played loose, and took a lot of risk. He was so fun to watch. I don’t think 12 is clearly better than him at all.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 24 Jul 2022 21:25
by Backthepack4ever
Drj820 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022 20:58
Favre was epic. No surprise to me his numbers look like they do. Also gotta remember the state of the franchise before Favre came. He resurrected the body. Rodgers came in and took the keys to a luxury sports car.
Favre just threw picks, played loose, and took a lot of risk. He was so fun to watch. I don’t think 12 is clearly better than him at all.
While I respect your opinion oh man do I think you are wrong that Brett and AR are on the same level. I really don't think it's close. Brett was was so fun to watch I agree he let it loose. He also did some of the biggest turd headed plays that cost way more then many want to remember or admit. The guy really was reason why we lost key games.
And Rodgers has also. Trust me his conservative play in key moments drives me nuts and I still haven't forgave him for the playoff game last year but. But.. the comparison really isn't that close for me. Look at game to game instead of season. Though the playoff heartache is equal and that really sucks Rogers is a surgeon compared to the fun gunslinger. Give AR those Brett defenses and he wins three hands down. Yes that can't be proven as much fun Brett was he's a tier or 2 down
There is almost 100 game difference between the two of them let's be real
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 06:07
by Yoop
Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022 21:25
Drj820 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022 20:58
Favre was epic. No surprise to me his numbers look like they do. Also gotta remember the state of the franchise before Favre came. He resurrected the body. Rodgers came in and took the keys to a luxury sports car.
Favre just threw picks, played loose, and took a lot of risk. He was so fun to watch. I don’t think 12 is clearly better than him at all.
While I respect your opinion oh man do I think you are wrong that Brett and AR are on the same level. I really don't think it's close. Brett was was so fun to watch I agree he let it loose. He also did some of the biggest turd headed plays that cost way more then many want to remember or admit. The guy really was reason why we lost key games.
And Rodgers has also. Trust me his conservative play in key moments drives me nuts and I still haven't forgave him for the playoff game last year but. But.. the comparison really isn't that close for me. Look at game to game instead of season. Though the playoff heartache is equal and that really sucks Rogers is a surgeon compared to the fun gunslinger. Give AR those Brett defenses and he wins three hands down. Yes that can't be proven as much fun Brett was he's a tier or 2 down
There is almost 100 game difference between the two of them let's be real
I agree, Rodgers may not have done enough to win several PO games, but he didn't out right lose them the way Favre did.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 10:53
by RingoCStarrQB
Favre is 2 - 2 in NFC Championship Games. And Brett can be blamed for the 2007 season NFCCG loss. But the loss to the Cowboys (1995 season) was pretty much a team effort loss.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 10:57
by Pugger
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022 10:53
Favre is 2 - 2 in NFC Championship Games. And Brett can be blamed for the 2007 season NFCCG loss. But the loss to the Cowboys (1995 season) was pretty much a team effort loss.
And the loss in 2014 in Seattle was a total team effort too.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 10:59
by go pak go
Yeah. I think the only player I have seen that I think could be "higher" than Rodgers is Peyton Manning, but Rodgers is far more talented than Manning.
I think Rodgers and the Packers suffer more from "snake bitten" than anything. I can't think of franchise with more heartbreaking losses they had no business of losing.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 11:33
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022 10:59
Yeah. I think the only player I have seen that I think could be "higher" than Rodgers is Peyton Manning, but Rodgers is far more talented than Manning.
I think Rodgers and the Packers suffer more from "snake bitten" than anything. I can't think of franchise with more heartbreaking losses they had no business of losing.
Rodgers has done more with less then Favre, for most of Rodgers career he dealt with terrible ST's and only twice to my knowledge had a top 10 defense, often not even top 20, both had quality WR groups for only a limited portion of there careers, it had less affect on Favre because the rest of the team could pick up the slack.
bad luck imo is used to defend poor coaching and personal decisions, McCarthy had a one dimensional approach, spread vertical passing, run to keep a defense (honest)set up short to open up spread vertical routes deep.
Rodgers finally had to get vocal to get out from under McCarthy, and Ted ( Bless his soul) had some terrible defensive draft picks, to me thats the biggest difference.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 11:50
by Drj820
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022 10:59
Yeah. I think the only player I have seen that I think could be "higher" than Rodgers is Peyton Manning, but Rodgers is far more talented than Manning.
I think Rodgers and the Packers suffer more from "snake bitten" than anything. I can't think of franchise with more heartbreaking losses they had no business of losing.
At some point when you are snake bit and can’t overcome it, you gotta point the finger at leadership. Whether you want to blame HC or QB is a debate worth having, but I’m
Willing to give some scrutiny to the 50m per year man when everybody comes out tight every big playoff game
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 11:52
by go pak go
I think they are about even. Especially when you consider that Favre has "two extra seasons" in 93 and 94 over Rodgers until they actually started playing.
Favre enjoyed a good defense with White. But the defenses became far more hit and miss after Reggie left.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 11:55
by Drj820
Also gotta remember Favre was slangin it in an era when that wasn’t really the most common way to play. I would Marino was also ahead of his time in terms of throwing long and often. But Favre too was doing it when the rules weren’t set up for it. Favre and Marino both would destroy the current era with the rules that tilt success toward offense.
Fave also probably would have played longer as he would be dealing with Less CTE most likely.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 11:56
by Packfntk
Yeah, in another two seasons when Rodgers PLAYS as many seasons as Favre did in green and gold, THEN we can compare apples to apples stat wise.
One thing is certain, we have been very, VERY fortunate as fans.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 11:58
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022 11:50
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022 10:59
Yeah. I think the only player I have seen that I think could be "higher" than Rodgers is Peyton Manning, but Rodgers is far more talented than Manning.
I think Rodgers and the Packers suffer more from "snake bitten" than anything. I can't think of franchise with more heartbreaking losses they had no business of losing.
At some point when you are snake bit and can’t overcome it, you gotta point the finger at leadership. Whether you want to blame HC or QB is a debate worth having, but I’m
Willing to give some scrutiny to the 50m per year man when everybody comes out tight every big playoff game
I think this forum knows full well where I stand on this topic. Roughly half the games we lost were due to poor defense. And the other half is due to the offense not doing enough. That's just the facts.
STs "cost" the team in the two best team seasons (2014 and 2021) but this comes on the heels of the offense not doing enough when the defense played elite level ball.
Offense Didn't Do Enough: 2013, 2014, 2015, 2021
Defense Didn't Do Enough: 2009, 2012
Both Didn't Do Enough: 2011, 2016, 2019, 2020
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 13:38
by Yoop
the reason we are near 500 in PO games had very little to do with the QB's, and almost everything to do with the QB's
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 20:36
by Foosball
IMO, Favre all the way. He has 3 times the heart of Rodgers. If Sterling Sharpe hadn’t had the career ending neck injury, Brett’s numbers would have been even better. Favre played when the defenses could actually hit and tackle. Would Favre make boneheaded plays? Absolutely. But he could throw 2 picks and still win the game.
Favre played with 4 different coaches and 3 GMS. Holmgren could keep him somewhat under control. If Holmgren would have stayed…well who knows. Rarely would Favre call out one of his players in front of millions of people. Brett was much more fun to watch and I believe he had more come from behind victories.
Favre took over a team that hadn’t won the SB in 30 years and brought home the Lombardi Trophy.
That being said I’ve really enjoyed watching Rodgers. He also brought home the Lombardi Trophy. Statistically he’ll go down as the greatest passer (QB Rating). So yes statistically Rodgers has made sure he doesn’t throw interceptions…sometimes early in his career to the detriment of the team.
But If I had to choose between them on who would start a championship game or SB, I’d take Favre over Rodgers.
Side note: Payton Manning played in a dome most of his career. Same with Brees. That brings them down a notch in my view.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 25 Jul 2022 21:56
by RingoCStarrQB
Foosball wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022 20:36
But If I had to choose between them on who would start a championship game or SB, I’d take Favre over Rodgers.
A wise choice .......... a very very wise choice (with Mike Holmgren as Head Coach of course).
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 26 Jul 2022 02:48
by wallyuwl
Packfntk wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022 11:56
Yeah, in another two seasons when Rodgers PLAYS as many seasons as Favre did in green and gold, THEN we can compare apples to apples stat wise.
One thing is certain, we have been very, VERY fortunate as fans.
I would say the rules changes should give 4 at least a 2 year head start.
Re: Favre and Rodgers as Packers After 16 Seasons
Posted: 26 Jul 2022 05:18
by TheSkeptic
Foosball wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022 20:36
IMO, Favre all the way. He has 3 times the heart of Rodgers. If Sterling Sharpe hadn’t had the career ending neck injury, Brett’s numbers would have been even better. Favre played when the defenses could actually hit and tackle. Would Favre make boneheaded plays? Absolutely. But he could throw 2 picks and still win the game.
Favre played with 4 different coaches and 3 GMS. Holmgren could keep him somewhat under control. If Holmgren would have stayed…well who knows. Rarely would Favre call out one of his players in front of millions of people. Brett was much more fun to watch and I believe he had more come from behind victories.
Favre took over a team that hadn’t won the SB in 30 years and brought home the Lombardi Trophy.
That being said I’ve really enjoyed watching Rodgers. He also brought home the Lombardi Trophy. Statistically he’ll go down as the greatest passer (QB Rating). So yes statistically Rodgers has made sure he doesn’t throw interceptions…sometimes early in his career to the detriment of the team.
But If I had to choose between them on who would start a championship game or SB, I’d take Favre over Rodgers.
Side note: Payton Manning played in a dome most of his career. Same with Brees. That brings them down a notch in my view.
Rodgers would have retired 4 years ago if he got hit the way Favre got hit.