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2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 16 Aug 2022 10:33
by NCF

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 16 Aug 2022 12:04
by YoHoChecko
I love reading the Freaks column. It's way too long to copy and paste here, but it's always fun to read, not only for the draft names, but for the types of different athletic testing and weight training stuff they have in there to measure. All sorts of different schools who have different tests they do--though lots of it are just olympic weight lifting metrics.

GPS tracking is making 40-times obsolete.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 16 Aug 2022 12:08
by RingoCStarrQB
Hey ......... when I brought up the 2023 opponents on May 13th ........... I was told by one of you guys (NCF I think, who coincidentally initiated this 2023 Draft Discussion thread) that I was sick and I needed to go get therapy.

So go get therapy. If you aren't sick, then start drinking heavily until you get sick. :beer2:

GO PACK GO !!

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 16 Aug 2022 12:34
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote:
16 Aug 2022 12:04
I love reading the Freaks column. It's way too long to copy and paste here, but it's always fun to read, not only for the draft names, but for the types of different athletic testing and weight training stuff they have in there to measure. All sorts of different schools who have different tests they do--though lots of it are just olympic weight lifting metrics.

GPS tracking is making 40-times obsolete.
Those TE prospects sound awful unique.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 12:47
by BF004
Sitting on pick #9 right now. Could be 6th if we played easier teams. Time to start rooting for all the teams we've played to start losing to get an easier SOS.

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl

Following 4 picks after us were all traded, lol

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 13:10
by paco
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 12:47
Sitting on pick #9 right now. Could be 6th if we played easier teams. Time to start rooting for all the teams we've played to start losing to get an easier SOS.

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl

Following 4 picks after us were all traded, lol


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Lotta talk out there about us taking a QB. Houston, Carolina, Detroit, and probably the Colts could all be ahead of us targetting one. If we do want one, we can't win again and may still have to trade up. Going to be a lot of competition for 3 guys.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 14:01
by BF004
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 13:10
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 12:47
Sitting on pick #9 right now. Could be 6th if we played easier teams. Time to start rooting for all the teams we've played to start losing to get an easier SOS.

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl

Following 4 picks after us were all traded, lol


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Lotta talk out there about us taking a QB. Houston, Carolina, Detroit, and probably the Colts could all be ahead of us targetting one. If we do want one, we can't win again and may still have to trade up. Going to be a lot of competition for 3 guys.
It would be pretty idiotic to take a QB an not get Jordan Love a few starts. And an actual start, not on 4 days notice when Aaron gets COVID. But get him his own game plans and get him a handful for starts.

Was frustrating we didn't do that in 2005 when Favre was so awful and we went 4-12.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 14:04
by Drj820
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:01
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 13:10
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 12:47
Sitting on pick #9 right now. Could be 6th if we played easier teams. Time to start rooting for all the teams we've played to start losing to get an easier SOS.

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl

Following 4 picks after us were all traded, lol


image.png
Lotta talk out there about us taking a QB. Houston, Carolina, Detroit, and probably the Colts could all be ahead of us targetting one. If we do want one, we can't win again and may still have to trade up. Going to be a lot of competition for 3 guys.
It would be pretty idiotic to take a QB an not get Jordan Love a few starts. And an actual start, not on 4 days notice when Aaron gets COVID. But get him his own game plans and get him a handful for starts.

Was frustrating we didn't do that in 2005 when Favre was so awful and we went 4-12.
thats exactly what should happen after we lose to the cowboys and eagles. Rodgers needs to come down with some "injury" that just happens to linger

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 14:11
by paco
Drj820 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:04
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:01
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 13:10


Lotta talk out there about us taking a QB. Houston, Carolina, Detroit, and probably the Colts could all be ahead of us targetting one. If we do want one, we can't win again and may still have to trade up. Going to be a lot of competition for 3 guys.
It would be pretty idiotic to take a QB an not get Jordan Love a few starts. And an actual start, not on 4 days notice when Aaron gets COVID. But get him his own game plans and get him a handful for starts.

Was frustrating we didn't do that in 2005 when Favre was so awful and we went 4-12.
thats exactly what should happen after we lose to the cowboys and eagles. Rodgers needs to come down with some "injury" that just happens to linger
He's already got a built in excuse, the thumb. Say it got worse and IR him, I don't care. But Love HAS to get some starts this year.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 14:32
by Acrobat
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:11
Drj820 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:04
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:01


It would be pretty idiotic to take a QB an not get Jordan Love a few starts. And an actual start, not on 4 days notice when Aaron gets COVID. But get him his own game plans and get him a handful for starts.

Was frustrating we didn't do that in 2005 when Favre was so awful and we went 4-12.
thats exactly what should happen after we lose to the cowboys and eagles. Rodgers needs to come down with some "injury" that just happens to linger
He's already got a built in excuse, the thumb. Say it got worse and IR him, I don't care. But Love HAS to get some starts this year.
My thoughts too. And if Rodgers hates it, then he can retire but we're not trading him.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 14:40
by paco
Acrobat wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:32
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:11
Drj820 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:04


thats exactly what should happen after we lose to the cowboys and eagles. Rodgers needs to come down with some "injury" that just happens to linger
He's already got a built in excuse, the thumb. Say it got worse and IR him, I don't care. But Love HAS to get some starts this year.
My thoughts too. And if Rodgers hates it, then he can retire but we're not trading him.
Why? I'm still fine if we trade him. I don't even care if its for a 3rd rounder like Favre.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 14:47
by TheSkeptic
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:11
Drj820 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:04
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:01


It would be pretty idiotic to take a QB an not get Jordan Love a few starts. And an actual start, not on 4 days notice when Aaron gets COVID. But get him his own game plans and get him a handful for starts.

Was frustrating we didn't do that in 2005 when Favre was so awful and we went 4-12.
thats exactly what should happen after we lose to the cowboys and eagles. Rodgers needs to come down with some "injury" that just happens to linger
He's already got a built in excuse, the thumb. Say it got worse and IR him, I don't care. But Love HAS to get some starts this year.
If it were my decision, Love would start every remaining game. Rodgers can be a healthy scratch or better yet IR him for the thumb and don't bring him back when it heals. Activate Danny Etling from the PS and sign someone else to the PS.

Then there are 2 good possibilities:
#1 is that the game is still too fast and complicated for Love. He looks lost and the Packers win only 1 game. Then draft a QB
#2 is that Love is what we think he is, an average NFL QB. The Packers win half their remaining games. Then draft a WR or TE in round 1.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 15:02
by BF004
TheSkeptic wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:47
If it were my decision, Love would start every remaining game.
I mean, we are 3-6 and SF is currently sitting at 4-4 in the 7 seed. 100% we are still going to be trying to win games. You really don't get better by benching the back to back, reigning MVP.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 15:03
by bud fox
Rodgers is playing and he is playing next year.

First 4 rounds should be nothing but receiver and oline.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 15:45
by Acrobat
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:40
Acrobat wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:32
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:11


He's already got a built in excuse, the thumb. Say it got worse and IR him, I don't care. But Love HAS to get some starts this year.
My thoughts too. And if Rodgers hates it, then he can retire but we're not trading him.
Why? I'm still fine if we trade him. I don't even care if its for a 3rd rounder like Favre.
I'm thinking financially it doesn't make any sense to trade him.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 16:13
by Yoop
Acrobat wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:32
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:11
Drj820 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:04


thats exactly what should happen after we lose to the cowboys and eagles. Rodgers needs to come down with some "injury" that just happens to linger
He's already got a built in excuse, the thumb. Say it got worse and IR him, I don't care. But Love HAS to get some starts this year.
My thoughts too. And if Rodgers hates it, then he can retire but we're not trading him.
He wont, we probably can't even bench the guy either, we are already the laughing stock of the NFL for kicking his contract so far down the road, thats a guarantee that Rodgers is here and our starting QB for at least the 2023 season.

our team has to be one of the most poorly managed teams in the league, if your going to pay a QB mega millions, why would you then skimp on the receivers? that doesn't make any sense at all, the only people that support this Bull &%$@ reside in this forum.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 16:16
by Yoop
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 15:02
TheSkeptic wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:47
If it were my decision, Love would start every remaining game.
I mean, we are 3-6 and SF is currently sitting at 4-4 in the 7 seed. 100% we are still going to be trying to win games. You really don't get better by benching the back to back, reigning MVP.
they don't want to get better, they want to start tanking games :thwap:

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 16:24
by LombardiTime
Acrobat wrote:
07 Nov 2022 15:45
paco wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:40
Acrobat wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:32


My thoughts too. And if Rodgers hates it, then he can retire but we're not trading him.
Why? I'm still fine if we trade him. I don't even care if its for a 3rd rounder like Favre.
I'm thinking financially it doesn't make any sense to trade him.
I think you are probably correct the team does not get any cap relief by trading Rodgers.

However, if they eat his contract and trade him for a middling 3rd round pick it might still make sense operationally to trade him.

The post-Rodgers era needs to begin and probably given the realities of the talent around him should have already begun.

Running it back in 2023 without Aaron Jones, likely Bakh, probably Lazard and Tonyan does not really make sense from an operational stand point.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2022 17:19
by Pckfn23
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-p ... gers-3745/

Post June 1 trade gets us $16 million in cap relief.

Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion

Posted: 10 Nov 2022 02:35
by TheSkeptic
Yoop wrote:
07 Nov 2022 16:16
BF004 wrote:
07 Nov 2022 15:02
TheSkeptic wrote:
07 Nov 2022 14:47
If it were my decision, Love would start every remaining game.
I mean, we are 3-6 and SF is currently sitting at 4-4 in the 7 seed. 100% we are still going to be trying to win games. You really don't get better by benching the back to back, reigning MVP.
they don't want to get better, they want to start tanking games :thwap:
So you want to start Rodgers every remaining game, not know what we have in Love and wait to find out next year. You want to go 1-8 for the beginning of next season and THEN let Love go 3-6 the rest of the season? All you will know then is that Love is better than Rodgers and that is not saying much.

Sorry, I do not. I am an old man and am not going to live forever. 3-4 years to get back to being an 8-9 team is a long time and that is what we are facing if Rodgers is not benched.

You want the Packers to be the worst team in the NFL for 2 years. :thwap: