Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 11:42
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Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 12:09
I suspect Hackett is one of those guys who is a better coordinator than HC. I wouldn't mind seeing him back in GB as our OC again.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 12:13
I was a skeptic of him as HC, but watching Denver, I just feel like the real issue is Wilson has stunk, and his bad play predates Hackett.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 12:35
Russ is a coach killer and Pete Carrol/John Schneider knew it.
So they absolutely fleeced the broncos instead of letting Russ win the power struggle in Seattle.
Hackett was in over his head...like many 1st time HCs - but I think Hackett would still be the broncos coach if Russ wasn't such a crappy QB.
I never bought in to The Cult of Russ, but many did. He's a charlatan and self-promoter and that works fine in the media- but on the field- its put up or shut up and Russ did neither. Many of his own team mates saw through his charade, both in Seattle and now in Denver.
The broncos will try again, but they're not gonna get a shot at the Top HC candidates because those guys don't want to be saddled with Russ the player, Russ the media maven, Russ the cap killer. Somebody will give it a go, but I doubt it works much better until Russ is flushed.
So they absolutely fleeced the broncos instead of letting Russ win the power struggle in Seattle.
Hackett was in over his head...like many 1st time HCs - but I think Hackett would still be the broncos coach if Russ wasn't such a crappy QB.
I never bought in to The Cult of Russ, but many did. He's a charlatan and self-promoter and that works fine in the media- but on the field- its put up or shut up and Russ did neither. Many of his own team mates saw through his charade, both in Seattle and now in Denver.
The broncos will try again, but they're not gonna get a shot at the Top HC candidates because those guys don't want to be saddled with Russ the player, Russ the media maven, Russ the cap killer. Somebody will give it a go, but I doubt it works much better until Russ is flushed.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 12:58
Some guys are good coordinators and not HC’s. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 13:01
They wanted to be rid of him. Fine. Fire him in 2 weeks. I just think it's classless to fire him with 2 games remaining in a lost season.
There will be all those things working against the organization, as [mention]BSA[/mention] so succinctly summarized, but now they'll also have the reputation of being the team that will hang you out to dry in humiliating fashion when things go south.
There will be all those things working against the organization, as [mention]BSA[/mention] so succinctly summarized, but now they'll also have the reputation of being the team that will hang you out to dry in humiliating fashion when things go south.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 13:20
Wow, that was quick.
Can’t imagine many had shorter tenures.
Can’t imagine many had shorter tenures.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 13:23
I just saw the list
Bill Belichick, Urban Meyer, George Allen, Bobby Petrino, Lou Holtz all had shorter stints as NFL HCs
One defensive guy who is now free: Ejiro Evero and he was one of MLFs choices at DC before hiring Barry
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 14:09
That thought crossed my mind, as well. I'd love to see MLF get a second shot at him.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 14:11
Would love to have him back. Even better would be to have our current OC go back to OL where he was absolutely brilliant. Tough thing to pull off such a demotion though.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 14:17
That was the first thing I thought of. Every has done more with considerably less.APB wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022 14:09That thought crossed my mind, as well. I'd love to see MLF get a second shot at him.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 14:18
The guy sleep with your girlfriend or something? He played great in Seattle. Great example of how much more important coaching is to talent. Meanwhile Carroll takes in a marginal roster QB in Geno Smith and has his QBR higher than Rodgers.BSA wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022 12:35Russ is a coach killer and Pete Carrol/John Schneider knew it.
So they absolutely fleeced the broncos instead of letting Russ win the power struggle in Seattle.
Hackett was in over his head...like many 1st time HCs - but I think Hackett would still be the broncos coach if Russ wasn't such a crappy QB.
I never bought in to The Cult of Russ, but many did. He's a charlatan and self-promoter and that works fine in the media- but on the field- its put up or shut up and Russ did neither. Many of his own team mates saw through his charade, both in Seattle and now in Denver.
The broncos will try again, but they're not gonna get a shot at the Top HC candidates because those guys don't want to be saddled with Russ the player, Russ the media maven, Russ the cap killer. Somebody will give it a go, but I doubt it works much better until Russ is flushed.
Russ was a better than average QB who was made great through great coaching. He is now playing poorly with poor coaching.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 14:52
Um, the quality of play by Wilson over the years has been pretty good. Maybe not elite. But he sure burned Green Bay enough to know it. Even this year, he’s been getting hit as much or more than he ever did in Seattle. (And that was bad some years.) He is not alone in his bad play this year. Their offense simply is dreadful from top to bottom.BSA wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022 12:35Russ is a coach killer and Pete Carrol/John Schneider knew it.
So they absolutely fleeced the broncos instead of letting Russ win the power struggle in Seattle.
Hackett was in over his head...like many 1st time HCs - but I think Hackett would still be the broncos coach if Russ wasn't such a crappy QB.
I never bought in to The Cult of Russ, but many did. He's a charlatan and self-promoter and that works fine in the media- but on the field- its put up or shut up and Russ did neither. Many of his own team mates saw through his charade, both in Seattle and now in Denver.
The broncos will try again, but they're not gonna get a shot at the Top HC candidates because those guys don't want to be saddled with Russ the player, Russ the media maven, Russ the cap killer. Somebody will give it a go, but I doubt it works much better until Russ is flushed.
Now the other issues you mentioned, those were chatted up a bit for sure. If you have a good write up about it, please share. I’d actually be interested in reading it.
:-)
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 14:53
…The inverse of Baker Mayfield?AmishMafia wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022 14:18The guy sleep with your girlfriend or something? He played great in Seattle. Great example of how much more important coaching is to talent. Meanwhile Carroll takes in a marginal roster QB in Geno Smith and has his QBR higher than Rodgers.BSA wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022 12:35Russ is a coach killer and Pete Carrol/John Schneider knew it.
So they absolutely fleeced the broncos instead of letting Russ win the power struggle in Seattle.
Hackett was in over his head...like many 1st time HCs - but I think Hackett would still be the broncos coach if Russ wasn't such a crappy QB.
I never bought in to The Cult of Russ, but many did. He's a charlatan and self-promoter and that works fine in the media- but on the field- its put up or shut up and Russ did neither. Many of his own team mates saw through his charade, both in Seattle and now in Denver.
The broncos will try again, but they're not gonna get a shot at the Top HC candidates because those guys don't want to be saddled with Russ the player, Russ the media maven, Russ the cap killer. Somebody will give it a go, but I doubt it works much better until Russ is flushed.
Russ was a better than average QB who was made great through great coaching. He is now playing poorly with poor coaching.
Lol.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 15:01
Pass rush pressure is a QB's worst enemy, and Denvers patch work OL is a sieve, on top of that the run game sucks, all stuff he had going for him in Seattle has been absent in Denver, no pressure, good QB.AmishMafia wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022 14:18The guy sleep with your girlfriend or something? He played great in Seattle. Great example of how much more important coaching is to talent. Meanwhile Carroll takes in a marginal roster QB in Geno Smith and has his QBR higher than Rodgers.BSA wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022 12:35Russ is a coach killer and Pete Carrol/John Schneider knew it.
So they absolutely fleeced the broncos instead of letting Russ win the power struggle in Seattle.
Hackett was in over his head...like many 1st time HCs - but I think Hackett would still be the broncos coach if Russ wasn't such a crappy QB.
I never bought in to The Cult of Russ, but many did. He's a charlatan and self-promoter and that works fine in the media- but on the field- its put up or shut up and Russ did neither. Many of his own team mates saw through his charade, both in Seattle and now in Denver.
The broncos will try again, but they're not gonna get a shot at the Top HC candidates because those guys don't want to be saddled with Russ the player, Russ the media maven, Russ the cap killer. Somebody will give it a go, but I doubt it works much better until Russ is flushed.
Russ was a better than average QB who was made great through great coaching. He is now playing poorly with poor coaching.
Not to defend Hackett or any coach, just don't think coaching with Russell since going to Denver has been the biggest problem, injury and lack of talent seem imo to be main cause of his decline.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 15:33
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from Mike Klis
" Broncos first offered interim HC job to Ejiro Evero. He declined. He's going to be a HC candidate this offseason. Preferred to stay with defense. Rosburg then made sense as he can oversee entire operation while coordinators run each phase."
from Mike Klis
" Broncos first offered interim HC job to Ejiro Evero. He declined. He's going to be a HC candidate this offseason. Preferred to stay with defense. Rosburg then made sense as he can oversee entire operation while coordinators run each phase."
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 15:39
The Sean Payton sweepstakes has begun. Firing a coach now has to do with beginning the recruiting process for him.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 15:55
Broncos thought they were getting someone from the McVay/Shanahan tree (through MLF) but they were actually getting someone from the Doug Marrone tree. I was never a fan of Hackett before he came here, but while he was here I became a fan simply because we won a lot. So I'd probably bring him back in ASAP, like today, to see if he wants an advisory role or something. Things just worked when he was here. Idk why they worked, but at the very least he didn't screw anything up, which is more than can be said for a lot of coaches.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 26 Dec 2022 18:47
It would be difficult. Previous boss now looking over the shoulder of his successor? I don't know their personalities, but it would likely be a bad atmosphere for the team.texas wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022 15:55Broncos thought they were getting someone from the McVay/Shanahan tree (through MLF) but they were actually getting someone from the Doug Marrone tree. I was never a fan of Hackett before he came here, but while he was here I became a fan simply because we won a lot. So I'd probably bring him back in ASAP, like today, to see if he wants an advisory role or something. Things just worked when he was here. Idk why they worked, but at the very least he didn't screw anything up, which is more than can be said for a lot of coaches.
Re: Hackett Fired
Posted: 28 Dec 2022 06:55
Sounds like the Broncos are giving Evero every opportunity to take over as HC. They offered him the interim HC position, which he declined, but are also interviewing him to fill the full-time vacancy. He will interview for that.
That's not to say Broncos management, in their coaching search apparently led by part-owner Condoleezza Rice, wont go after candidates like Sean Payton and others but they're also showing Evero the respect he's earned by giving him his opportunity.
That, or he's simply a Rooney-rule fulfill-the-requirement check mark.
