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Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:14
by Waldo
Welcome to Rank the Roster 2020, a chance to talk about football and haggle over the roster until (hopefully) camp opens.

As always, the starting 10 are the top 10 players remaining from last year's poll. This year 3 players are gone from the top 10; Brian Bulaga, Blake Martinez, and Mike Daniels.

Might we have a new #1 this year for the first time, or at least real competition for the spot? Last year was the first year it wasn't unanimous (minus the troll picks).

Rank The Roster: 2020 Edition

1. Current (xx%)[--]

Percent of vote the winner got will be in parenthesis, position change vs. 2019 will be in brackets.

Here's how this works:

Each day there is a new thread/poll, starting at #1, on down to whereever we get. The whole point of this exercise is to have something to talk about in the lean news months to carry us to camp. Each poll will be open for voting for 24 hours. New threads will only be created on weekdays. Ties will cause a runoff poll.

Simply voting is not enough!

Post why you voted for who you did and provide a player to add to the next poll (every poll will be a list of 10 guys, a new player is added to the list each day).

Here's the thing. There is no criteria. This is an exercise to foster discussion therefore there are no clear criteria for ranking. Who is better right now? Who will have the best season? Who was better last year? Sort of a combo of them all? Do you take positional value into account? It really doesn't matter.

Previous Years:
Rank the Roster: 2014-2019

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:19
by YoHoChecko
I totally came here to vote for Jordan Love.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:21
by Waldo
Well I'm not sure where to go here. Jones, Za'Darius, and Rodgers all make sense. Going to think about it until tomorrow, listen to the arguments. Leaning Jones tho because I love me some RB's and that kid is special.

Next up tho is a slam dunk for me, Elgton Jenkins. He's clearly going to go in the top 10 IMHO.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:22
by Waldo
YoHoChecko wrote:
27 Apr 2020 20:19
I totally came here to vote for Jordan Love.
I mean obviously he's going to be unanimous #1 from 2023-2038, but for now, its a bit premature to put him this high.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:23
by YoHoChecko
Waldo wrote:
27 Apr 2020 20:21
Well I'm not sure where to go here. Jones, Za'Darius, and Rodgers all make sense. Going to think about it until tomorrow, listen to the arguments. Leaning Jones tho because I love me some RB's and that kid is special.

Next up tho is a slam dunk for me, Elgton Jenkins. He's clearly going to go in the top 10 IMHO.
I went with Z. He is the only one who has a legit case that he should have been in the All Pro consideration, not just Pro Bowl consideration. I know he wasn't. But if I feel like he should have been, and if healthy should be in that range again this year, how can I not vote for him?

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:24
by go pak go
For the first time in this poll's creation, I did not vote 12.

Z'adarius Smith had the largest impact on the Green Bay Packers in 2019. When we needed someone to step up, 55 answered the call. That game at US Bank Stadium was the best performance by a Packers defender I have ever seen.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:30
by BF004
Tier 1
Rodgers

Tier 2
Z
Clark
Bakhtiari
Adams
Jones


4 blues on O, 2 on D

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:51
by Pckfn23
I think Z as well. Best player on the field last year.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 20:57
by lupedafiasco
Rodgers no matter what criteria you’re using for this thing. If he goes down this teams $%@#. The opposition has to put a lot more work in to stop Rodgers than it does Z. I got no problem with Z being 2nd even though I still think Bak is the better player.

Anything other than Rodgers here is trolling. I used to troll with the Jordy Nelson votes on the old one but that’s because Rodgers was damn near unanimous. This is silly.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 21:04
by Pckfn23
That we have no one behind Rodgers does not equate to Rodgers being the best on the team.

That said, it's an interesting way of thinking about it because if Z went down for any length of time it would have been this bum sauce Gary and garbage juice Fakrell taking his place.

To subscribe to the theory that Rodgers has no talent around him and thus that is why he has not played particularly well in the last 2 years, one would have to ignore Davante Adams and Aaron Jones. Also, if one believes Rodgers is the best, shouldn't the best be lifting up the talent instead of there needing to be much better talent for him to be the best?

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 21:08
by Cdragon
AR has the most impact on our game. Another year in the O. Giving young guns an actual shot should bring him closer to the top. He's still our #1

Is anyone voting for a draft pick before #30 this year?

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 21:29
by APB
I went Jones.

My vote was based upon last year’s performance and where I see this offense going this year. It’s apparent MLF is intent upon reducing our dependence on Rodgers and who do you think is going to get more of a load? You guessed it. And with Rodgers’ reduced role, Adams suffers also.

Not only that, I think Jones is still an ascending player both as a player overall and within this offense. He’s getting better, folks. That’s almost scary to think about.

Rodgers? Not so much.

Z was a strong consideration and a worthy pick. I think he’s next for me but this year’s no.1 is Jones.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 21:38
by go pak go
AJ Dillon might change it this year, but I would say the one person on offense who I am most concerned of losing short term to an injury is Aaron Jones.

Aaron Jones was without question the scariest and most impactful player on offense for the 2019 Green Bay Packers.

Like I said. AJ Dillon will hopefully reduce the dependency on Jones in 2020.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 21:52
by APB
go pak go wrote:
27 Apr 2020 21:38
AJ Dillon might change it this year, but I would say the one person on offense who I am most concerned of losing short term to an injury is Aaron Jones.

Aaron Jones was without question the scariest and most impactful player on offense for the 2019 Green Bay Packers.

Like I said. AJ Dillon will hopefully reduce the dependency on Jones in 2020.
Dillon may get some of those short yardage carries but my money says the Packers ride their soon-to-be FA like the stallion he is.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 27 Apr 2020 23:30
by Pugger
Pckfn23 wrote:
27 Apr 2020 21:04
That we have no one behind Rodgers does not equate to Rodgers being the best on the team.

That said, it's an interesting way of thinking about it because if Z went down for any length of time it would have been this bum sauce Gary and garbage juice Fakrell taking his place.

To subscribe to the theory that Rodgers has no talent around him and thus that is why he has not played particularly well in the last 2 years, one would have to ignore Davante Adams and Aaron Jones. Also, if one believes Rodgers is the best, shouldn't the best be lifting up the talent instead of there needing to be much better talent for him to be the best?
For the first time in a while we might have someone behind Rodgers. I feel a hell of a lot better with Love backing up Rodgers than Boyle.

I voted for Rodgers. Z didn't have to learn a new defense for the first time in his career in 2019. IF Rodgers embraces MLF's offense fully this year this could be a special season.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 28 Apr 2020 00:01
by Labrev
Aaron Jones kinda *is* our offense. Then again, when Rodgers is on his game, he's still our MVP, but overall, he is kind of in, like, Derek Carr(?) territory or something. Good, at the most important position, but not elite or hands-down our best.

I also feel like Adams deserves consideration here. I feel like we can win without Jones or without Adams, but not without both.

Za'Darius was dominant, but defense was our undoing last year and Z is not unlike the rest of our D in the sense that when it's not the pass that they're trying to stop, they're much less impressive.

Yeah, real tough call here. I gotta go with Jones, first vote for someone other than Rodgers at #1.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 28 Apr 2020 01:38
by Yoop
we'll live without z, or Jones, where dead in the water without Rodgers, not even close.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 28 Apr 2020 02:50
by texas
I voted Z. I just can't vote for a guy who was in the 12-18 range for his position last year.

Z was probably a top 3 pass rusher in the whole league, whereas Rodgers was a league-average QB.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 28 Apr 2020 04:29
by British
Simply answering the question, who is the best player on the Packers, for me, it has to be Rodgers.

He's also still the 'most valuable' to us, which is kind of how I view this process. Without him our season is over. Not the case with other players.

In fact Rodgers may more more valuable now because if he went down we might have to throw in Jordan Love and his career might get ruined. Love is clearly not ready, but with 2 years learning his craft, could be a star. It's vital he's not thrown in too soon.

Re: Rank the Roster 2020: #1

Posted: 28 Apr 2020 04:48
by TheSkeptic
I went with Z. The Packers are more likely to be able to win a playoff game without Rodgers than they are to win a playoff game without Z