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Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 13:00
by RingoCStarrQB
If Wilson makes the team, I'd like to think the Packers would have the automatic common sense instilled in their brains to issue him a different jersey # (Wilson is currently wearing Jimmy Taylor's sacred number 31........which bothers a lot of the old-timers). Also he may just have a little Jimmy Taylor in him (see video below).

https://www.packers.com/video/emanuel-w ... s-patriots

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 14:58
by TheSkeptic
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
20 Aug 2023 13:00
If Wilson makes the team, I'd like to think the Packers would have the automatic common sense instilled in their brains to issue him a different jersey # (Wilson is currently wearing Jimmy Taylor's sacred number 31........which bothers a lot of the old-timers). Also he may just have a little Jimmy Taylor in him (see video below).

https://www.packers.com/video/emanuel-w ... s-patriots
You are correct. The end of that run is exactly how Taylor ran. I am sure Jimmy was proud to see his number on a RB after a run like that.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 15:07
by APB
RingoCStarrQB wrote:31........which bothers a lot of the old-timers)
Meaning just you...?

Because nobody seemed to mind when Gerry Ellis and a number of other players wore the number. Just sayin'...

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 15:10
by Pckfn23
APB wrote:
20 Aug 2023 15:07
RingoCStarrQB wrote:31........which bothers a lot of the old-timers)
Meaning just you...?

Because nobody seemed to mind when Gerry Ellis and a number of other players wore the number. Just sayin'...
Never knew it bothered him the entire time Amos was on the team. Or Davon House. Or Al Harris...

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 16:14
by Labrev
Silly complaint, 31 is not a retired number.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 17:21
by kampmanfan4life
By my count 14 players wore #31 after Jim Taylor.

https://www.packerstats.com/playersByNu ... d=1&nid=31

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 17:36
by RingoCStarrQB
Here's another beef:
The Cowboys finally won the Super Bowl in 1971 after acquiring Adderley, Caffey, Gregg, Ditka and Alworth.

Reminiscent of the Wolf team that grabbed Reggie, Dotson, Jones, Robinson, Risen, Howard, Jackson and Wilkerson.
Brilliance!

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 17:39
by RingoCStarrQB
Pckfn23 wrote:
20 Aug 2023 15:10
APB wrote:
20 Aug 2023 15:07
RingoCStarrQB wrote:31........which bothers a lot of the old-timers)
Meaning just you...?

Because nobody seemed to mind when Gerry Ellis and a number of other players wore the number. Just sayin'...
Never knew it bothered him the entire time Amos was on the team. Or Davon House. Or Al Harris...
Heck Yes, but not just me. Same logic applies to Hornung's #5. If Rodgers #12 gets retired ahead of the Golden Boy, I'll be livid as well.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 17:46
by RingoCStarrQB
kampmanfan4life wrote:
20 Aug 2023 17:21
By my count 14 players wore #31 after Jim Taylor.

https://www.packerstats.com/playersByNu ... d=1&nid=31
By my count that's 14 more than necessary.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 18:24
by Drj820
If Ringo is upset, then I too…am upset

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 19:51
by YoHoChecko
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
20 Aug 2023 17:39

Heck Yes, but not just me. Same logic applies to Hornung's #5. If Rodgers #12 gets retired ahead of the Golden Boy, I'll be livid as well.
I have some baaaad news for you.


But while we're talking about Wilson...

Paul Bretl said the other day that if the Packers keep a 3rd RB it will be Patrick Taylor again, as he has everything you need from a backup--STs, pass pro, scheme knowledge and familiarity.

23 posted a tweet about the ST unit starts on the core 4 STs and Taylor led the way.

Personally, I think Taylor is a JAG (useful JAG, but a JAG) and there is zero reason to keep him over Wilson (or Goodson) in a year of youth like this one. I would MUCH rather keep Wilson, who can be any and everything Taylor is as a reserve based on talent, than Taylor.

Am I just not appreciating the nuance or importance of a RB3 to pass protect even when RBs 1 and 2 have that skill covered?

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 20:16
by RingoCStarrQB
YoHoChecko wrote:
20 Aug 2023 19:51
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
20 Aug 2023 17:39

Heck Yes, but not just me. Same logic applies to Hornung's #5. If Rodgers #12 gets retired ahead of the Golden Boy, I'll be livid as well.
I have some baaaad news for you.


But while we're talking about Wilson...

Paul Bretl said the other day that if the Packers keep a 3rd RB it will be Patrick Taylor again, as he has everything you need from a backup--STs, pass pro, scheme knowledge and familiarity.

23 posted a tweet about the ST unit starts on the core 4 STs and Taylor led the way.

Personally, I think Taylor is a JAG (useful JAG, but a JAG) and there is zero reason to keep him over Wilson (or Goodson) in a year of youth like this one. I would MUCH rather keep Wilson, who can be any and everything Taylor is as a reserve based on talent, than Taylor.

Am I just not appreciating the nuance or importance of a RB3 to pass protect even when RBs 1 and 2 have that skill covered?
And what if Dillon or Jones get hurt? Back in the day we had Tom Moore and Elijah Pitts to fill in if needed.
In '67 our RB corp consisted of Ben Wilson, Elijah Pitts, Chuck Mercein, Travis Williams and Donny Anderson. Grabowski couldn't play. So where's our competent back up running backs. 1 may not be enough.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 20:27
by Crazylegs Starks
It'll be just like last year when they kept sure & steady Taylor over the raw but talented Goodson

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 20:30
by RingoCStarrQB
Drj820 wrote:
20 Aug 2023 18:24
If Ringo is upset, then I too…am upset
Thanks. Got ONE vote of confidence.
On this board we've got an unknown range of generations. Me, Yoop, Pugger and Bogey are Baby Boomers for sure. I have no idea what else we've got here (Gen X, Y, Z or Alpha). Some have little concept of Lombardi era history. Some do. This retired number thing has gotten out of hand starting with Canadeo, and seemingly ending with the omissions of Forrest Gregg and Willie Wood.
And there's still no valid excuse for keeping Jack Vainisi's name off the inner sanctum facade. Bob Harlan is still dead wrong on that one.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 20:37
by RingoCStarrQB
Crazylegs Starks wrote:
20 Aug 2023 20:27
It'll be just like last year when they kept sure & steady Taylor over the raw but talented Goodson
That way of thinking is short sighted and lacks innovation. By innovation I'm talking about having a guy like Desmond Howard or Travis Williams taking a roster spot that could be a game changer.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 22:00
by go pak go
Every year the Packers has a RB that is awesome in camp and preseason and then gets cut. Every single year.

I love Wilson. I think he is different and special but I would be more surprised at this point if he makes the 53.

And as far as 31 goes.... that is the most Ringo post to ever Ringo. :lol:

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 20 Aug 2023 22:10
by YoHoChecko
go pak go wrote:
20 Aug 2023 22:00
Every year the Packers has a RB that is awesome in camp and preseason and then gets cut. Every single year.

I love Wilson. I think he is different and special but I would be more surprised at this point if he makes the 53.
I see that MLF said today that his blocking, STs, and conditioning ( :shock: ) are still a work in progress/in need of improvement. That sounded to me like the standard "don't be surprised when we cut him next week"

We did only 2 RBs on the original 53 last year which I avidly argued wouldn't happen, but I guess with RBs being so devalued and therefore likely to be retained on the PS through waivers, there's not a lot of difference between having Taylor AND Wilson (and Goodson?) on the PS rather than any of them on the active roster.

I'd guess all three get cut.

But if they keep a 3rd and it's Taylor over Wilson, I'll be annoyed. RB3 doesn't play nearly enough to value his pass protection ahead of his upside--especially with Dillon and Jone's contact situations unknown after the year.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 21 Aug 2023 00:20
by Bogey
TheSkeptic wrote:
20 Aug 2023 14:58
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
20 Aug 2023 13:00
If Wilson makes the team, I'd like to think the Packers would have the automatic common sense instilled in their brains to issue him a different jersey # (Wilson is currently wearing Jimmy Taylor's sacred number 31........which bothers a lot of the old-timers). Also he may just have a little Jimmy Taylor in him (see video below).

https://www.packers.com/video/emanuel-w ... s-patriots
You are correct. The end of that run is exactly how Taylor ran. I am sure Jimmy was proud to see his number on a RB after a run like that.
:aok:

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 21 Aug 2023 04:24
by williewasgreat
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
20 Aug 2023 13:00
If Wilson makes the team, I'd like to think the Packers would have the automatic common sense instilled in their brains to issue him a different jersey # (Wilson is currently wearing Jimmy Taylor's sacred number 31........which bothers a lot of the old-timers). Also he may just have a little Jimmy Taylor in him (see video below).

https://www.packers.com/video/emanuel-w ... s-patriots
As a fellow Boomer, I have to disagree. There is no need to keep retiring numbers. This is especially true for a team with the history of the Packers. There is a finite amount of numbers that are usable.

Re: Emanuel Wilson

Posted: 21 Aug 2023 08:18
by RingoCStarrQB
williewasgreat wrote:
21 Aug 2023 04:24
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
20 Aug 2023 13:00
If Wilson makes the team, I'd like to think the Packers would have the automatic common sense instilled in their brains to issue him a different jersey # (Wilson is currently wearing Jimmy Taylor's sacred number 31........which bothers a lot of the old-timers). Also he may just have a little Jimmy Taylor in him (see video below).

https://www.packers.com/video/emanuel-w ... s-patriots
As a fellow Boomer, I have to disagree. There is no need to keep retiring numbers. This is especially true for a team with the history of the Packers. There is a finite amount of numbers that are usable.
That's it. Case is now closed. No more retired numbers.......including 75, 24 and freakin effin 12.