Packers Huddle

We actually had a fairly decent SOS so far, about to get a lot easier.


Nice to have tie breakers with the Saints and Rams.

No idea who would be likely to have the eventual tiebreaker with us and MN if we beat them next time.

Fun sites to play with


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cture.html

https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

The Tiebreaker with MN is interesting:

Let's assume both us and MN are 10-7 (meaning MN's only loss is to us)

Packers win Tiebreaker

If our loss is to KC or NYG, GB wins the tiebreaker over MN due to Conference Wins or Common Opponent (because we beat the Bears twice)

Vikings win Tiebreaker

If our loss is to TB or CAR - MN gets the tiebreaker due to Strength of Victory (MN has a slightly harder schedule than us)

If our loss is to CHI - MN gets the tiebreaker due to wins in the division

The Tiebreaker with MN is interesting:

Let's assume both us and MN are 9-8 (meaning MN's only loss is to us)

Packers win Tiebreaker

If we beat MN and Chicago - we win tiebreaker due to division and common opponent

Vikings win Tiebreaker

If MN Beats us
If MN sweeps Detroit and we lose to the Bears (but beat MN)

From a tiebreaking standpoint, the next two games (KC and NYG) are the most meaningless with KC being THE most meainingless.

Our games vs TB, CAR, MN and CHI are the most meaningful.

The games ranked most important to least important:

1. Minnesota
2. Chicago
3. Tampa/CAR
4. NYG
5. KC

I'm going to believe in this team until they are out of it. I won't be devastated if they don't make it in, I just want to see them keep fighting.

It's been pointed out on X that our SOS has been tougher than all the playoff teams.

So much for all the chirping a few weeks back that we have been playing easy teams this year. You know who you were. :^)

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl- ... dule-2023/

I've never put to much stock in strength of schedule, any NFL team can rise to the occasion, and the best can slack off and lose.

but this shows us at 28th for strength of remaining schedule, or I guess 4th easiest, again any given Sunday

Madcity_matt wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 10:31

I'm going to believe in this team until they are out of it. I won't be devastated if they don't make it in, I just want to see them keep fighting.

I don't deny being a hard on "Love and Watson". But I have also maintain that going into this season I believed we could compete for a wild card spot. Well right now we are competing for one. Thats why I got frustrated with comments about it being a "meaningless" game against the Steelers. Part of it is the competition for the "wild card" spots . The other teams vying for them spots are not that great. I hope we are saying at the end of the regular season "its not how you play the first part of the season but how you finish". Things could go sideways yet for sure, but I expect this young team to keep improving going forward. Could the 2 games against the Lions be any MORE different?!!!! I guess that question is mostly rhetorical.

I will not freak out if we lose to KC. I expect them to. How excited will the forum get if we Win? I will be exctied. The Panther, Giants, Bucs, and as we saw last night, the Vikings and Bears are not Juggernauts.

Go Pack Go!!

Labrev wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 11:18

It's been pointed out on X that our SOS has been tougher than all the playoff teams.

So much for all the chirping a few weeks back that we have been playing easy teams this year. You know who you were. :^)

What's a playoff team? Eagles have a very tough schedule this year.

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 14:31

Labrev wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 11:18

It's been pointed out on X that our SOS has been tougher than all the playoff teams.

So much for all the chirping a few weeks back that we have been playing easy teams this year. You know who you were. :^)

What's a playoff team? Eagles have a very tough schedule this year.

What is a woman?

Oh, never mind, that is a different topic.

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 14:47

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 14:31

Labrev wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 11:18

It's been pointed out on X that our SOS has been tougher than all the playoff teams.

So much for all the chirping a few weeks back that we have been playing easy teams this year. You know who you were. :^)

What's a playoff team? Eagles have a very tough schedule this year.

What is a woman?

Oh, never mind, that is a different topic.

Nobody knows anymore.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 15:23

Nobody knows anymore.

Sane people do.

Labrev wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 11:18

It's been pointed out on X that our SOS has been tougher than all the playoff teams.

So much for all the chirping a few weeks back that we have been playing easy teams this year. You know who you were. :^)

That happens when most of the teams you play are playoff teams.

I think the Packers will miss the playoffs this season. But they will be close. To me, the fact that Love has proved himself to be a capable QB and that players like Musgrave, Reed, the 2 corners and the 2 Dlinemen and Walker and Wicks have proven themselves is more important than the ending win-loss record. Even LVN and Kingsley who are behind Preston would be starting on a lot of teams. This team is primed for a SB run next season and that is more important than this season. Going young was the right decision even though it has made this season difficult.

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

29 Nov 2023 01:49

I think the Packers will miss the playoffs this season. But they will be close. To me, the fact that Love has proved himself to be a capable QB and that players like Musgrave, Reed, the 2 corners and the 2 Dlinemen and Walker and Wicks have proven themselves is more important than the ending win-loss record. Even LVN and Kingsley who are behind Preston would be starting on a lot of teams. This team is primed for a SB run next season and that is more important than this season. Going young was the right decision even though it has made this season difficult.

If they miss the playoffs at this point, Love will not have proven he’s a capable QB in my opinion. It’s all right there for us, a capable QB/team/coach…will just reach out and take it.

Beat the Chiefs on Sunday night and this conversation will pivot in favor of the 2023 Playoffs. Packers close out the season with the Giants, Buccaneers, Panthers, Vikings (LoL) and Da Bears. Oh ....... and the Lions may be in a downward spiral. Just sayin'

GO PACK GO!!

Drj820 wrote: ↑

29 Nov 2023 06:49

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

29 Nov 2023 01:49

I think the Packers will miss the playoffs this season. But they will be close. To me, the fact that Love has proved himself to be a capable QB and that players like Musgrave, Reed, the 2 corners and the 2 Dlinemen and Walker and Wicks have proven themselves is more important than the ending win-loss record. Even LVN and Kingsley who are behind Preston would be starting on a lot of teams. This team is primed for a SB run next season and that is more important than this season. Going young was the right decision even though it has made this season difficult.

If they miss the playoffs at this point, Love will not have proven he’s a capable QB in my opinion. It’s all right there for us, a capable QB/team/coach…will just reach out and take it.

That's making a huge assumption that Love would be the reason for losing. That's simply not true. It could happen due to the defense or special teams and have nothing to do with Love.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

29 Nov 2023 06:49

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

29 Nov 2023 01:49

I think the Packers will miss the playoffs this season. But they will be close. To me, the fact that Love has proved himself to be a capable QB and that players like Musgrave, Reed, the 2 corners and the 2 Dlinemen and Walker and Wicks have proven themselves is more important than the ending win-loss record. Even LVN and Kingsley who are behind Preston would be starting on a lot of teams. This team is primed for a SB run next season and that is more important than this season. Going young was the right decision even though it has made this season difficult.

If they miss the playoffs at this point, Love will not have proven he’s a capable QB in my opinion. It’s all right there for us, a capable QB/team/coach…will just reach out and take it.

So did Rodgers prove to be incapable last year by this theshold?

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 14:31

Labrev wrote: ↑

28 Nov 2023 11:18

It's been pointed out on X that our SOS has been tougher than all the playoff teams.

So much for all the chirping a few weeks back that we have been playing easy teams this year. You know who you were. :^)

What's a playoff team? Eagles have a very tough schedule this year.

A playoff team is a team getting needed experience for next year's SuperBowl run.