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Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:28
by paco
My wife will be thrilled.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:29
by paco
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:30
by paco
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:32
by NCF
This still doesn't make sense, but the "in-the-know" crowd did NOTHING to dispel rumors after the news broke yesterday, so I figured this was a very real possibility.
Excited from a nostalgia point of view, but not sure what he really brings to the receiving core. I guess we are about to see if Rodgers is a better talent evaluator than we are.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:32
by Labrev
WOW. I'm actually pretty stunned that this turned out to be true...
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:32
by NCF
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:34
by YoHoChecko
This is so dumb and I really really hope the trade compensation is no more than a 5th round pick, but I am STOKED anyway. I just love this guy. And he is Amari Rodgers' de facto big brother. I'm just pleased as punch.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:35
by go pak go
huh
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:36
by Pckfn23
NCF wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:32
This still doesn't make sense, but the "in-the-know" crowd did NOTHING to dispel rumors after the news broke yesterday, so I figured this was a very real possibility.
Excited from a nostalgia point of view, but not sure what he really brings to the receiving core. I guess we are about to see if Rodgers is a better talent evaluator than we are.
100%. It might make more sense if the trade compensation is 6th or 7th, and Cobb restructures so the Texans eat a lot of his contract.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:37
by go pak go
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:36
NCF wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:32
This still doesn't make sense, but the "in-the-know" crowd did NOTHING to dispel rumors after the news broke yesterday, so I figured this was a very real possibility.
Excited from a nostalgia point of view, but not sure what he really brings to the receiving core. I guess we are about to see if Rodgers is a better talent evaluator than we are.
100%. It might make more sense if the trade compensation is 6th or 7th, and Cobb restructures so the Texans eat a lot of his contract.
That's what I am hoping for. But this is still going to cost us quite a bit of money from future years
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:38
by NCF
go pak go wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:37
But this is still going to cost us quite a bit of money from future years
Not if Houston eats it. It would actually be a pretty big bargain with very little cap consequences... but then I would expect that to cost us a higher draft pick. It's a balancing act here.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:39
by salmar80
If Cobb has anything in his tank, and we can make the $$$ work, this could turn out REAL well.
I thought having Amari Rodgers handle a huge and complicated workload as our only slot/gadget guy was too optimistic. Cobb, on the other hand, certainty can do that and show the young one how it's done...
Also solves us having been very thin at the slot WR position.
Competition for the WR roster spots gonna be good...
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:39
by YoHoChecko
paco wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:29
It's obviously at least C, as Rodgers' contract is being reworked and these are all happening in tandem. Sometimes Ken Ingall's obsessive tracking of the cap situation is more confusing than enlightening.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:39
by Yoop
Smart money, Cobb was hurt last year and lost 6 games to a toe issue, the year prior for Dallas he did well, very well, Cobb will be a great locker room addition, a mentor for Amari, and he and Adams will be very tough to cover, add in the deep threat of MVS, and our receiver room just took a huge leap in the right direction.
if ya want to play up tempo football, and beat the pass rush then slot receivers are a must, we really missed them last year, Rodgers and Lafluer both know this and had to be on the same page with the drafting of Amari and now with Bringing in Cobb.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:40
by Pckfn23
go pak go wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:37
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:36
NCF wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:32
This still doesn't make sense, but the "in-the-know" crowd did NOTHING to dispel rumors after the news broke yesterday, so I figured this was a very real possibility.
Excited from a nostalgia point of view, but not sure what he really brings to the receiving core. I guess we are about to see if Rodgers is a better talent evaluator than we are.
100%. It might make more sense if the trade compensation is 6th or 7th, and Cobb restructures so the Texans eat a lot of his contract.
That's what I am hoping for. But this is still going to cost us quite a bit of money from future years
Maybe, maybe not. I hate it, if it will.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:41
by Waldo
Did they change the trade rules or is Cobb's contract structured weird? Bonuses stay with the team that paid them, usually making a traded for player rather cheap to the cap since all the counts is the part the Packers owe him, which shouldn't include previous bonuses.
A traded for player should always be no cost to cut after the season.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:41
by go pak go
NCF wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:38
go pak go wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:37
But this is still going to cost us quite a bit of money from future years
Not if Houston eats it. It would actually be a pretty big bargain with very little cap consequences... but then I would expect that to cost us a higher draft pick. It's a balancing act here.
Agreed. Houston is only "eating it" if we give them a nicer draft pick to do it.
My guess is we ship a 4th and EQSB to HOU so it basically replaces their 5th sent to CHI for Anthony Miller. In return, HOU eats "some" of the cap.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:42
by go pak go
Waldo wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:41
Did they change the trade rules or is Cobb's contract structured weird? Bonuses stay with the team that paid them, usually making a traded for player rather cheap to the cap since all the counts is the part the Packers owe him, which shouldn't include previous bonuses.
Randal Cobb has a base salary this year of like $8.25 Million.
So that is on us unless HOU restructures to reduce the base and increase some sort of "bonus".
But we are still paying I'd bet at least $5 million for the guy.
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:42
by paco
Re: Cobb is back
Posted: 27 Jul 2021 13:45
by paco
go pak go wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:42
Waldo wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021 13:41
Did they change the trade rules or is Cobb's contract structured weird? Bonuses stay with the team that paid them, usually making a traded for player rather cheap to the cap since all the counts is the part the Packers owe him, which shouldn't include previous bonuses.
Randal Cobb has a base salary this year of like $8.25 Million.
So that is on us unless HOU restructures to reduce the base and increase some sort of "bonus".
But we are still paying I'd bet at least $5 million for the guy.
It's not awful if it works out. He's had injury issues but was at his best with Rodgers. Should be at his best in LaFleur's scheme. And he's still only 31, so there should still be 1 or 2 more good years. Let's just see what the deal is before we worry about it too much.