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Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 13:17
by paco
:browns: Cleveland Browns @ :packers: Green Bay Packers

Saturday, December 25th, 2021 - 3:30pm CST
Spread: Green Bay Packers -7.5
Over/Under: 44.5


Stadium
Lambeau Field

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Broadcast
FOX / NFL NETWORK / AMAZON
https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2021&wk=16

Announcers
Erin Andrews

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Oh, Buck and Aikman will be there, too...

Dope Sheet
https://www.packers.com/news/dope-sheet ... wk-16-2021

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JustJeff wrote:Packers 38
Browns 17

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2022; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 13:19
by paco
Maybe some snow, but not sure that's a benefit for us. Some guys coming off the Covid list for the Browns, but others going on (Greg Newsome). Something to monitor.

This won't be an easy one for us. Browns are a tough matchup. Have to find a way to slow down Garrett (hopefully his groin is a problem) and Clowney. And don't let Chubb run over us all day.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 13:24
by paco

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 13:45
by paco

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 13:51
by wallyuwl
MVS on covid list. Just as he was starting to get into it.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 13:54
by paco
wallyuwl wrote:
22 Dec 2021 13:51
MVS on covid list. Just as he was starting to get into it.
Still a chance he can play. It's believed he is vaccinated.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 14:04
by BF004
Garrett and Clowney can certainly cause a lot of problems for Nijman and Clowney.

Pissed Bakhtiari isn’t practicing now after he did last week. Really don’t want to just throw him out there in January, he needs regular season reps.


Be awesome if Jaire is a go. Should really open it up for Barry to get guys in the backfield against the run and pass alike.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 14:18
by kyle.mccarroll
Got to wonder if Bak had another setback at this point.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 14:20
by wallyuwl
kyle.mccarroll wrote:
22 Dec 2021 14:18
Got to wonder if Bak had another setback at this point.
Yup. Seems like it is a whole lost year. But I'd tear my ACL for $14 million or whatever he is being paid this year to not play.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 14:49
by go pak go
BF004 wrote:
22 Dec 2021 14:04

Pissed Bakhtiari isn’t practicing now after he did last week. Really don’t want to just throw him out there in January, he needs regular season reps.
Honestly at this point I think the winds are shifting that Bakh won't be playing at all until September 2022.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 15:12
by NCF
BF004 wrote:
22 Dec 2021 14:04
Be awesome if Jaire is a go. Should really open it up for Barry to get guys in the backfield against the run and pass alike.
LaFleur already basically said no on Jaire yesterday.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 15:14
by NCF
go pak go wrote:
22 Dec 2021 14:49
BF004 wrote:
22 Dec 2021 14:04

Pissed Bakhtiari isn’t practicing now after he did last week. Really don’t want to just throw him out there in January, he needs regular season reps.
Honestly at this point I think the winds are shifting that Bakh won't be playing at all until September 2022.
I haven't seen it lately, but after a number of comparisons to 2010, some finally started realizing the parallels between this team and the 1996 team. Unfortunately, this could be another major link with 2021 Bakhtiari becoming the 1996 Ken Ruettgers.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 15:17
by paco
the following Browns players will be off the COVID-19 list in time to play on Christmas:

• Mayfield
• wide receiver Jarvis Landry
• left tackle Jedrick Wills Jr.
• defensive tackle Malik McDowell
• nickelback Troy Hill (not expected to play due to a knee injury)
• defensive end Ifeadi Odenigbo
• safety Nate Meadors (practice squad)
• tight end Ross Travis (practice squad)

the following Browns players on the COVID-19 list would need to test out of the protocols to be eligible to play Saturday:

• Newsome (also in concussion protocol)
• Keenum
• defensive end Jadeveon Clowney
• right tackle James Hudson III
• linebacker Mack Wilson
• running back Kareem Hunt (not expected to play due to an ankle injury)
• safety Ronnie Harrison Jr.
• cornerback A.J. Green
• linebacker Tony Fields II
• safety Grant Delpit

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 15:36
by paco
Amazing how everyone hears the words someone says differently.

I did not get the impression that MLF expects Clark to play Saturday. Just that he hopes, IF he's cleared. And also he rather have him practice first.

But media running with notion that it's going to happen.

Think its best if I listen to all pressers myself and not rely on others' interpretations.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 16:26
by wallyuwl
paco wrote:
22 Dec 2021 15:36
Amazing how everyone hears the words someone says differently.

I did not get the impression that MLF expects Clark to play Saturday. Just that he hopes, IF he's cleared. And also he rather have him practice first.

But media running with notion that it's going to happen.

Think its best if I listen to all pressers myself and not rely on others' interpretations.
Thing is, unless he says explicitly one way or the other, nothing should be considered concrete until 90 minutes before the game when rosters are due.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 16:45
by paco
wallyuwl wrote:
22 Dec 2021 16:26
paco wrote:
22 Dec 2021 15:36
Amazing how everyone hears the words someone says differently.

I did not get the impression that MLF expects Clark to play Saturday. Just that he hopes, IF he's cleared. And also he rather have him practice first.

But media running with notion that it's going to happen.

Think its best if I listen to all pressers myself and not rely on others' interpretations.
Thing is, unless he says explicitly one way or the other, nothing should be considered concrete until 90 minutes before the game when rosters are due.
Exactly. I know the media has to do their job. But it's mostly their fault people had unrealistic expectations about Bakhtiari. Shouldn't have had any talk of coming back until a month or so ago.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 16:59
by RingoCStarrQB
NCF wrote:
22 Dec 2021 15:14
go pak go wrote:
22 Dec 2021 14:49
BF004 wrote:
22 Dec 2021 14:04

Pissed Bakhtiari isn’t practicing now after he did last week. Really don’t want to just throw him out there in January, he needs regular season reps.
Honestly at this point I think the winds are shifting that Bakh won't be playing at all until September 2022.
I haven't seen it lately, but after a number of comparisons to 2010, some finally started realizing the parallels between this team and the 1996 team. Unfortunately, this could be another major link with 2021 Bakhtiari becoming the 1996 Ken Ruettgers.
I'm pretty sure the 1996 team starting player losses due to injury were Ruettgers, Brooks and Koonce. Bruce Wilkerson filled in for Ruettgers, Andre Risen filled in for Brooks, and Ron Cox filled in for Kooooooooonce. Koooooooonce as in Kuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn. :woohoo:

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 17:27
by Pugger
paco wrote:
22 Dec 2021 16:45
wallyuwl wrote:
22 Dec 2021 16:26
paco wrote:
22 Dec 2021 15:36
Amazing how everyone hears the words someone says differently.

I did not get the impression that MLF expects Clark to play Saturday. Just that he hopes, IF he's cleared. And also he rather have him practice first.

But media running with notion that it's going to happen.

Think its best if I listen to all pressers myself and not rely on others' interpretations.
Thing is, unless he says explicitly one way or the other, nothing should be considered concrete until 90 minutes before the game when rosters are due.
Exactly. I know the media has to do their job. But it's mostly their fault people had unrealistic expectations about Bakhtiari. Shouldn't have had any talk of coming back until a month or so ago.
He probably should have not been activated and put on Instead.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 22 Dec 2021 17:33
by paco
Pugger wrote:
22 Dec 2021 17:27
paco wrote:
22 Dec 2021 16:45
wallyuwl wrote:
22 Dec 2021 16:26


Thing is, unless he says explicitly one way or the other, nothing should be considered concrete until 90 minutes before the game when rosters are due.
Exactly. I know the media has to do their job. But it's mostly their fault people had unrealistic expectations about Bakhtiari. Shouldn't have had any talk of coming back until a month or so ago.
He probably should have not been activated and put on Instead.
They must still think he has a chance to play this year. They had no choice but to activate him or lose him for the year. If he didn't have a chance to play, they'd IR him again and make better use of the roster spot.

Re: Browns @ Packers GDT: Saturday, December 25th, 2021; 3:30pm CST

Posted: 23 Dec 2021 07:22
by Pckfn23
They had to activate him or he would have been on season ending IR. Not sure why they couldn't IR him after that though.