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Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 08:33
by BF004
Already discussing all this ad nauseum, but thought it might be fun to see how the forum thinks in general who will be back. Discussion getting a little stale, so looking to keep something going to spark some conversation.

Vote for everyone you think will be wearing green and gold next year.

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Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 08:37
by NCF
I'm still going super-light and long-term view.

Lazard, Campbell, Douglas, & Amos.

Keep the D largely together. Rebuild the EDGE room. Start over on offense.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 08:40
by BF004
NCF wrote:
08 Feb 2022 08:37
I'm still going super-light and long-term view.

Lazard, Campbell, Douglas, & Amos.

Keep the D largely together. Rebuild the EDGE room. Start over on offense.
I did those 4 along with Billy Turner and Preston Smith.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 09:26
by Yoop
Clark, 67 pass rush pressures
Lowery, 42 pressures
Preston Smith 62 pressures

Gary, 2nd in the league edge rusher with 81 pressures

thats 252 pressures from our main 4 rushers, I'd find a way to keep them, there pass rush contributed to solid pass coverage

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 09:38
by paco
I'm leaning toward Lazard and MVS sticking around, along with Preston and Amos.

I think 1 of Campbell or Douglas could be back, but I didn't vote for either for now. Tonyan is on the edge too.

Of course, much of the list hedges on if Rodgers returns.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 09:49
by BF004
Yoop wrote:
08 Feb 2022 09:26
Clark, 67 pass rush pressures
Lowery, 42 pressures
Preston Smith 62 pressures

Gary, 2nd in the league edge rusher with 81 pressures

thats 252 pressures from our main 4 rushers, I'd find a way to keep them, there pass rush contributed to solid pass coverage
Should have added Lowry, his name has definitely popped up a few times as a potential cap saving move.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 10:20
by Yoop
BF004 wrote:
08 Feb 2022 09:49
Yoop wrote:
08 Feb 2022 09:26
Clark, 67 pass rush pressures
Lowery, 42 pressures
Preston Smith 62 pressures

Gary, 2nd in the league edge rusher with 81 pressures

thats 252 pressures from our main 4 rushers, I'd find a way to keep them, there pass rush contributed to solid pass coverage
Should have added Lowry, his name has definitely popped up a few times as a potential cap saving move.
he gets a poor grade defending the run from PFF, but scores well with pass rush, be nice to improve on Lowry, but I expect it'll cost a premium draft pick to do so.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 10:50
by NCF
Yoop wrote:
08 Feb 2022 10:20
he gets a poor grade defending the run from PFF, but scores well with pass rush, be nice to improve on Lowry, but I expect it'll cost a premium draft pick to do so.
I think they have something in Slaton. At least as a rotational guy. Wouldn't hate spending a premium pick on this group, but I have big expectations for Slaton going forward.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 11:00
by NCF
Early surprise for me, based on current voting, is MVS. I am like 95% sure he is long gone. Just don't see the money working in our favor versus greener pastures.

I think Tonyan coming back is far more likely, but still not as likely as Mercedes Lewis. Current voting has these three in the exact opposite order of what think their likelihoods of returning are.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 11:01
by Drj820
I think Slayton had a great rookie campaign too.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 12:29
by Crazylegs Starks
NCF wrote:
08 Feb 2022 11:00
Early surprise for me, based on current voting, is MVS. I am like 95% sure he is long gone. Just don't see the money working in our favor versus greener pastures.

I think Tonyan coming back is far more likely, but still not as likely as Mercedes Lewis. Current voting has these three in the exact opposite order of what think their likelihoods of returning are.
That's pretty much what I am thinking: Someone will offer MVS more, while Tonyan won't draw much outside interest. If Big Dog doesn't retire, he's a shoo-in to be brought back as his blocking is so valuable.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 13:31
by Yoop
NCF wrote:
08 Feb 2022 10:50
Yoop wrote:
08 Feb 2022 10:20
he gets a poor grade defending the run from PFF, but scores well with pass rush, be nice to improve on Lowry, but I expect it'll cost a premium draft pick to do so.
I think they have something in Slaton. At least as a rotational guy. Wouldn't hate spending a premium pick on this group, but I have big expectations for Slaton going forward.
like him too, he garnard a C+ grade, this off season should help him, another TC, PS games, DT imo is a tough position for a rookie, NFL O Lineman are so much better then those they faced in college.

Lancaster according to these grades is very good against the run, but really non existent rushing the passer, obviously why his snap count is so low.


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Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 13:37
by wallyuwl
Ma0ybe I will be wrong, but don't see a huge FA market for MVS.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 14:41
by BF004
wallyuwl wrote:
08 Feb 2022 13:37
Ma0ybe I will be wrong, but don't see a huge FA market for MVS.
Speed receivers who can run good go routes tend to get paid well in FA.

Generally over expectations in many cases.

My best guess is MVS gets like 3 for 24. I just wouldn't be shocked at all to see like 3 for 36.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 15:16
by Half Empty
Wouldn't like to see him go, but that coin, sure hope it's an NFC team. Need so other cap hell teams.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 15:49
by texas
As of right now I lean towards us holding it all together for another year, so I voted accordingly. Main offensive nucleus and also unfortunately saying goodbye to the 2019 FA class.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 20:47
by Cdragon
Any speculation that they trade Jaire Alexander and his 13 mil salary thinking they can't afford him the next year when he's an FA. And they go with Rasul, Stokes and some rookie.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 21:52
by APB
Cdragon wrote:
08 Feb 2022 20:47
Any speculation that they trade Jaire Alexander and his 13 mil salary thinking they can't afford him the next year when he's an FA. And they go with Rasul, Stokes and some rookie.
Lord I hope not.

Jaire, at his age, is a piece you can build an entire defense around. The fact we can have 3 guys back there who can hold their own is practically unheard of.

There’s actually a part of me that thinks Rasul comes back down to Earth a bit going forward. Just seems impossible for him to keep up that level of play when you consider his history.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 08 Feb 2022 21:53
by BF004
Cdragon wrote:
08 Feb 2022 20:47
Any speculation that they trade Jaire Alexander and his 13 mil salary thinking they can't afford him the next year when he's an FA. And they go with Rasul, Stokes and some rookie.
I sincerely hope not.

Re: Will They Be A Packer?

Posted: 10 Feb 2022 08:15
by NCF
Long video, but great summary of what all the pieces in the puzzle actually mean.