Dolphins @ Packers GDT: Thursday, Nov. 28th, 7:20 PM CST

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Dolphins @ Packers GDT: Thursday, Nov. 28th, 7:20 PM CST

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:dolphins: Miami Dolphins @ Green Bay Packers :packers:
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Thursday, November 28th, 7:20 PM CST
Spread: Green Bay Packers -3.5
Over/Under: 47.5



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Lambeau Field
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Injury Report


Broadcast (NBC)
https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2024&wk=13

Mike Tirico, Jason Garrett
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The Green Bay Packers welcome the Miami Dolphins to Lambeau Field for a faceoff in prime time on Thanksgiving.

It is the second straight year that Green Bay has played on Thanksgiving, but only the second time at home on the holiday since 1923 (Chicago, 2015).
It is the first time the Packers have played on Thanksgiving in back-to-back years since they faced Detroit every year from 1951-63.
It marks the first Thursday meeting between the Packers and Dolphins.
It is just the seventh meeting between the two teams at Lambeau Field and the fourth this century (2002, 2010, 2018).
It will be the second prime-time game for the Packers this season and the first of four consecutive scheduled prime-time games, which would be the first time the Packers have played four straight prime-time games in a single season since the merger (Elias Sports Bureau).
Thursday will be the second of three games over a 12-day span for Green Bay as the Packers travel to Detroit to play the Lions next Thursday.
It is the Packers' first time playing on a Thursday in back-to-back weeks since 2015 (Weeks 12-13).
WITH THE CALL

NBC will broadcast the game as play-by-play man Mike Tirico joins analyst Jason Garrett in the booth with Melissa Stark reporting from the sidelines.

All Packers games can be heard on the Packers Radio Network, which is made up of 54 stations in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois and North and South Dakota. 97.3 The Game – WRNW-Milwaukee is in its third season as the flagship station of the Packers Radio Network. For a map and full listing of radio affiliates, go to packers.com/video/radio-network. Wayne Larrivee (play-by-play), two-time Packers Pro Bowler Larry McCarren (analyst), and three-time Packers Pro Bowler John Kuhn (sideline reporter) call the action. McCarren first joined the team's broadcasts in 1995 and enters his 30th season calling Packers games. After originally being paired together in 1999, McCarren and Larrivee enter their 26th season of broadcasts together. They surpassed Jim Irwin and Max McGee for the most regular-season and postseason games broadcast for the Packers with 313 at the 2018 season opener against Chicago.
The broadcast is also available on Sirius Satellite Radio on channel 82 or 225 or through the app (Packers Radio Network feed).
Westwood One will be broadcasting on radio to a national audience with Ryan Radtke (play-by-play) and Derek Rackley (analyst) on the call and Scott Graham hosting pregame and halftime shows.

This is an abbreviated version of the Dope Sheet. Read the full version here (PDF).

THE DOPE ON THIS WEEK'S OPPONENT

Packers vs. Dolphins:

All-time, regular season: 6-10
All-time, at home (regular season): 3-4 (3-3 at Lambeau)
Streaks: Green Bay has won five of the last six regular-season games played.
Last meeting, regular season: Dec. 25, 2022, Hard Rock Stadium, Packers won, 26-20
Matt LaFleur: 64-30-0, .681; (3-4 postseason); 6th NFL season
Mike McDaniel: 25-20, .556; (0-2 postseason); 3rd NFL season
Head to Head: LaFleur 1-0 vs. McDaniel
vs. Opponent: LaFleur 1-0 vs. Dolphins; McDaniel 0-1 vs. Packers

MATT LaFLEUR…In his sixth season as the Packers' 15th head coach.

Is in his 16th season in the NFL, having previously served as an offensive coordinator for two seasons (Los Angeles Rams, 2017; Tennessee Titans, 2018), a quarterbacks coach for six seasons (Washington Redskins, 2010-13; Atlanta Falcons, 2015-16), and an offensive assistant for two seasons (Houston Texans, 2008-09).
In his first five seasons leading the Packers, authored one of the greatest starts to a head-coaching career in NFL history. Per the Elias Sports Bureau, his 56 wins are tied for the second most in league history by a head coach in his first five seasons in the NFL, trailing only George Seifert (62 in 1989-93).
Became the first coach in NFL history to post 13-plus wins in three straight seasons and his 39 wins from 2019-21 passed Seifert (38) for the most wins by an NFL head coach in his first three seasons in the league (Elias). His 39 wins are also tied for the second most by a coach over any three-season span in league history, trailing only Andy Reid's 40 wins with the Kansas City Chiefs from 2020-22 and Mike Ditka's 40 wins with the Chicago Bears from 1985-87 (Elias).
In his first season leading the Packers in 2019, became the first coach in club history to lead the team to the playoffs in his debut season. Also led the largest one-year win improvement in team history (plus-seven wins).
MIKE McDANIEL…In his third season as the Dolphins' 11th head coach.

Is in his 17th season as an NFL coach, having previously spent five seasons on San Francisco's staff as run game specialist (2017), run game coordinator (2018-20) and offensive coordinator (2021). He also spent time with the Atlanta Falcons (2015-16), Cleveland Browns (2014), Washington Redskins (2011-13), and Houston Texans (2006-08).
Led Miami to back-to-back postseason appearances in 2022-23 for the first time since 2000-01, becoming just the third head coach in Dolphins history to make back-to-back playoff appearances in his first two seasons, joining Don Shula (1970-71) and Dave Wannstedt (2000-01).
In 2023, the Dolphins recorded their first 11-win season in 15 years and led the league in total offense (401.3 ypg) for the first time since 1994. The team also led the league in passing offense (265.5 ypg), yards per carry (5.1) and quarterback hits allowed (59), while finishing second in scoring offense (29.2 ppg).
In his only season as offensive coordinator, helped the 49ers finish No. 7 in the NFL in total offense (375.7 ypg) and rushing offense (127.4 ypg) as San Francisco advanced to the NFC title game.
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THE PACKERS-DOLPHINS SERIES

The series between Green Bay and Miami began in 1971 with the Dolphins winning nine of the first 10 games played in the series, including the first eight (1971-94).
With the Packers' first victory over the Dolphins in 1997, Green Bay has won six of the last eight games played and three consecutive matchups.
The Packers are 2-0 against the Dolphins in games played in November at Lambeau Field (Nov. 4, 2002 & Nov. 11, 2018).
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Thanks for the GDT, greatly appreciated :aok:


Squish some fish, they're completely useless for a Thanksgiving feast

Here's yet another team that couldn't prosper without QB1...going 1-4 without Tua in 2024
HC Mike McDaniel comes from the Shanahan tree and is widely considered a high quality offensive mind, but couldn't get er done

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... a/2024.htm


Here's the depth chart for the 'phins, in case you were wondering where Grant DuBose ended up (currently on IR)

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/MIA

Miami offense is currently ranked 24th at 19.5 pts per game
Miami defense is currently ranked 11th at 21.5 pts/game and just behind GB
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It's actually a great matchup. Their offense is pretty powerful with Tua in the lineup. They also have a lot of close losses to playoff teams the last month.
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go pak go wrote:
26 Nov 2024 11:08
It's actually a great matchup. Their offense is pretty powerful with Tua in the lineup. They also have a lot of close losses to playoff teams the last month.
A whole another level of a game than vs the depleted 49ers. The Dolphins may be 5-6, but are not out of the playoff race yet. This one is no gimme, but I like our chances at home.

I watched the Dolphins' last game, and Tua was just dumping short to medium passes over the middle and NE just took it up the zone. I hope Hafley clogs the middle, maybe some robber action? If you make him a passer, and force those passes outside, you'll be in good shape.
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If you're anticipating a pass rush resurgence this week, might want to temper your expectations.

That said, Tua loves his RB pass plays. It's why his completion percentage is so high. Challenge those easy throw options, make Tua hesitant, and those pass rushers may just get home.


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Also this.

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Here's a little blurb on Tua from the 33rd Team- Packers are facing another run- around- extend- the- play QB

https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-we ... in-top-5/

Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins
Skill Score: 9.20 | Production Score: 6.61 | Ranking Score: 7.91

This was the type of defense the Dolphins faced on Sunday:

Jonnu Smith looks like he's playing MOF safety

— Dan Pizzuta (@DanPizzuta) November 18, 2024

Still, Tua Tagovailoa still finished with the second-best EPA per play of the week (0.61) behind Goff.
This came in another game with Miami struggling to create explosives on the ground.

The passing game has come back alive with Tagovailoa’s return, and for the second week in a row, the quarterback showed off some extended play production. He was 4-for-4 for 2.70 EPA per play outside the pocket.


It will likely be another week of rush-to-contain from Hafley
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In an unexpected twist, Dolphins LB Shaq Barrett has decided to end his retirement after mere 5 months, and will have to either go on their roster or get cut. This apparently took their coaches by surprise and we'll see what they do. :shock:

Veteran safety S Marcus Maye got released, but may return on their PS.

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Packers have a couple of former Dolphins on the team

RB Chris Brooks started his career in Miami, but only got 19 carries in 2023 because of all the talent in front of him
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... ooCh00.htm

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And GB's LB Coach and Run Game Coordinator - Anthony Campanile was in Miami before Hafley snatched him up

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The Green Bay Packers are welcoming back featured alumni Cullen Jenkins and Aaron Kampman for the Packers-Dolphins game on Thursday, Nov. 28.
Additional Packers alumni will also be part of the gameday festivities on Thursday, with Clay Matthews assembling care packages for military members and greeting fans at the Crown Royal Rig on the Fan Walkway, near the Johnsonville Tailgate Village, from 5 to 7 p.m.

Tony Fisher and Frank Winters will also be at Titletown for Titletown Gameday Live


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Dolphins make a roster move:

Dolphins activate rookie Safety from injured reserve

https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2024/ ... -activate/

Hopefully MLF, Love and the crew give him a proper "welcome to the NFL" moment
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APB wrote:
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If you're anticipating a pass rush resurgence this week, might want to temper your expectations.

That said, Tua loves his RB pass plays. It's why his completion percentage is so high. Challenge those easy throw options, make Tua hesitant, and those pass rushers may just get home.

Lack of coverage for easy throws was baffling against SF. With Allen in there why weren’t they taking that away consistently, especially on 3rd down? Really took X to make a great individual play on 4th down to finally knock one away. Tua is a bit of a different player as he will chuck it up to Hill and Waddle if the defense commits to the short pass.

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33rd Team with an article on up and coming rookie Miami pass rusher - Chop Robinson

https://www.the33rdteam.com/miami-dolph ... superstar/

In the last four weeks, Robinson leads NFL defenders with 25 pressures and a 25.8 percent pressure rate.
He has also recorded 3.5 sacks since Week 9.


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Go Pack! I love the likely temps of the game. Gonna have some chill!

Time for our running game to start another gear.
Come on down and try some of our delicious green chili! Best in the world!

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Former Packer great Tim Boyle is on the Dolphins roster.

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This will probably be our toughest test all season next to the Lions. The Dolphins offense is just so fast an explosive. As for Tua getting all the short and easy plays I would expect the same in this one. You just can let Waddle and Hill beat you deep and with our CB situation I’m betting Hafley will give our outside guys so much help that the underneaths tuff it open. Tua loves to get the ball out quick so I would like to see a lot of disguise coverages but outside of that it’s going to be on our offense to keep up and not make mistakes.
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lupedafiasco wrote:
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This will probably be our toughest test all season next to the Lions. The Dolphins offense is just so fast an explosive. As for Tua getting all the short and easy plays I would expect the same in this one. You just can let Waddle and Hill beat you deep and with our CB situation I’m betting Hafley will give our outside guys so much help that the underneaths tuff it open. Tua loves to get the ball out quick so I would like to see a lot of disguise coverages but outside of that it’s going to be on our offense to keep up and not make mistakes.
Well how about a consistent pass rush for a change?

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One of my son's is Dolphins fan (don't worry, he's out of the will!) We watch a lot of their games and I have never seen a team throw more sideways passes in my life. I bet 75% of Tua's throws are sideways, screens, checkdowns, etc. Our CBs are going to have to tackle well this week. Best way to slow speed is to hit them hard early especially in cold weather. Wouldn't surprise me to see one of our guys jump a screen and get a nice pick 6!

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Legit nervous about this one but as a Tyreek Hill owner, this season has been a headscratcher. He hasn't had more than 80 yards in a game since Week 1. Really thought that would change when Tua came back. He's just not the same player this year. I feel like if we can limit some of their big plays, we'll be ok. Achane is the real deal though. Watch out for him.

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packman114 wrote:
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One of my son's is Dolphins fan (don't worry, he's out of the will!) We watch a lot of their games and I have never seen a team throw more sideways passes in my life. I bet 75% of Tua's throws are sideways, screens, checkdowns, etc. Our CBs are going to have to tackle well this week. Best way to slow speed is to hit them hard early especially in cold weather. Wouldn't surprise me to see one of our guys jump a screen and get a nice pick 6!
Yeah, Tua uses a crapton of short passes and screens to set up a bomb. In last game, he rarely held the ball for more than 2.5 seconds, making pass rushing an exercise in futility. I fully expect a few dinky-dunky drives that will have me screaming "cover the quick pass!", as if that was easy.

But he's only mortal. Get him to a 3rd and long, and he'll take his share of sacks.
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