2025 NFL Draft - Football Thread

[lupedafiasco]

It would cost our 1st and 2nd to move all the way to 13. Not worth it in my opinion. This team still needs a WR, DE, and DT and needs serious depth at CB and LB. A move like that severely limits the ability to fill the needs on this team. You arent going to close the massive talent gap between us and the Eagles by just getting one really good player.

[NCF]

Man, there is a ton of guys in this class who I read up on and it's like the perfect prospect. Then I get to the end and read this person suffered a torn ACL in September. There must be 10 fringe 1st-round guys who have big time medical flags.

[lupedafiasco]

Peter Buttkowski talked about it on his podcast today but I think I’m also coming to draw the conclusion that Landon Jackson might be the pick for us. I think without a doubt our 1st pick is going to be something on the front 4. I think Graham, Grant, and Harmon are all gone with the recent success of the Eagles and Chiefs with stud DTs (that should both be on this team btw).

Landon Jackson is the type of edge Gutenbumst loves and he’s just the type of player that low enough on consensus that he would reach for at 23.

[NCF]

Where the $%@# is @YoHoChecko?

[Yoop]

Peter Buttkowski talked about it on his podcast today but I think I’m also coming to draw the conclusion that Landon Jackson might be the pick for us. I think without a doubt our 1st pick is going to be something on the front 4. I think Graham, Grant, and Harmon are all gone with the recent success of the Eagles and Chiefs with stud DTs (that should both be on this team btw).

Landon Jackson is the type of edge Gutenbumst loves and he’s just the type of player that low enough on consensus that he would reach for at 23.

pre draft hype is the same as LVN and Gary, will cause havoc, is a disruptive, but lack of actual productive results is the same, Guty needs to go after guys that actually produce, so far his types have not, these big lanky, heavy DE's with tight hips have one thing in common, they dominated weaker OT and college OLines, they get to this level and big tackles stand them up at the LOS and minus there needed ability to counter with a rip or hand over they get no where, I'd rather not a repeat of LVN or Gary, plus we need a DT more. jmo

I'd take Kyle Kenard in the 3rd round, more value

[Yoop]

Where the $%@# is @YoHoChecko?

haven't seen him in months, did he become a sports writer????

[Labrev]

Guys, relax. There will be plenty of solid options at every need position for us not to have to reach. Only 22 picks can be made ahead of us.

Yeah, other teams may also be interested in the guys we like, but they also have other needs and are likely falling in love with guys who don't make sense for us: QBs, RBs, TEs, etc. It all evens out.

Whether we actually take the most sensible player is another thing; we tend to outsmart ourselves in R1. But I assure you, quality guys who fill needs for us will be there.

[Yoop]

Guys, relax. There will be plenty of solid options at every need position for us not to have to reach. Only 22 picks can be made ahead of us.

Yeah, other teams may also be interested in the guys we like, but they also have other needs and are likely falling in love with guys who don't make sense for us: QBs, RBs, TEs, etc. It all evens out.

Whether we actually take the most sensible player is another thing; we tend to outsmart ourselves in R1. But I assure you, quality guys who fill needs for us will be there.

when you say relax, it doesn't sound as convincing as when Rodgers did it

it would be abnormal, and completely out of character for Huddlers to relax, especially leading up to historical events such as draft in Title Town, the home of the famous and 2nd oldest team in the sport Green Bay Packers, excited is what we all need to be.

but agree our first round picks have just not lived up to the production we get from round 2 and 3, hopefully Guty does better this year

[Labrev]

Speaking of EDGE guys that are "our type" like Shemar Stewart and Landon Jackson, another one I have not seen folks here talking about for us is Mykel Williams.

I decided to F around and make him our pick in a PFF mock draft sim today. I don't really like the pick for us, but I wanted to see what that kind of draft might look like for us. I got WR Higgins in R2. Lately I have consistently been disliking the options available in R3. Royals is often available there, but wasn't this time (which is just as well, because I already filled WR for us), and lots of OL that I think are pretty good prospects (we do need one, so I ultimately went this direction), but that seems to be wear stuff really dries up, it's very lacking in terms of DTs, WRs, and CBs.

We discussed trading up from 23 and largely agreed it doesn't make much sense. Trading up from our 3rd into late 2 or early 3 might be worth it, though, to get in on another solid piece that can help us before what could be a significant drop-off in talent.

Or maybe we can move back from 1 and get an extra 2 if we can swing that.

[Yoop]

Speaking of EDGE guys that are "our type" like Shemar Stewart and Landon Jackson, another one I have not seen folks here talking about for us is Mykel Williams.

been my # 1 edge prospect for a long time, only minus was injury according to Andy Herman, which caused decline last year, but look at vid of 2023 and he's a top 10 selection according to him , and why I expect him to go top 20, if not top 15, more production then Stewart, also like Mike Green, but he's a little smaller than Guty seems to like, but Green has massive production, and a bunch of tech ability, more like a Mathews imo.

[NCF]

Don't fully understand what it is, but looks really cool.

[Yoop]

Speaking of EDGE guys that are "our type" like Shemar Stewart and Landon Jackson, another one I have not seen folks here talking about for us is Mykel Williams.

I decided to F around and make him our pick in a PFF mock draft sim today. I don't really like the pick for us, but I wanted to see what that kind of draft might look like for us. I got WR Higgins in R2. Lately I have consistently been disliking the options available in R3. Royals is often available there, but wasn't this time (which is just as well, because I already filled WR for us), and lots of OL that I think are pretty good prospects (we do need one, so I ultimately went this direction), but that seems to be wear stuff really dries up, it's very lacking in terms of DTs, WRs, and CBs.

We discussed trading up from 23 and largely agreed it doesn't make much sense. Trading up from our 3rd into late 2 or early 3 might be worth it, though, to get in on another solid piece that can help us before what could be a significant drop-off in talent.

Or maybe we can move back from 1 and get an extra 2 if we can swing that.

how about Bech? I think Higgins will go off early 2nd, Bech seems like a steady eddie and may still be available, consistent, good size, blocker, physical.


At 6-2 and 214 pounds, Bech is a big-bodied target with strong hands. On 91 targets this season, Bech had just one drop and finished his collegiate career with just four career drops. The LSU transfer is tough as nails and has no issues making catches in a crowd. He has impressive body control, with the ability to make catches through contact. Bech does a nice job of adjusting to throws that are away from his frame. He does a good job of using his body to box out defenders. According to Pro Football Focus, 45 of his receptions led to a first down.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/pa ... 17977.html

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[Labrev]

Full list to date, that I didn't get from anywhere else....

1. Shemar Stewart - DE - Texas A&M
2. Esa Pole - OT - Wash St.
3. James Pearce - DE - Tennessee
4. Jacob Bayer - IOL - Ark. St.
5. Isaiah Bond - WR - Texas
6. Shavon Revel - CB - East Carolina
7. Mykel Williams - DE - Georgia
8. TJ Sanders - DT - South Carolina
9. Matthew Golden - WR - Texas
10. Dalton Cooper - OT - OK St.
11. Emeka Egbuka - WR - OSU
12. Josh Simmons - OT - OSU

In the Gute era, we have often taken players with whom we met pre-draft (much more so than under TT).

[lupedafiasco]

I love James Pearces game but I think I’m out on him. I haven’t heard anything but how bad he is of a team mate and a person. I heard Mike Green is also a turd with 2 sexual assault allegations.

[Labrev]

I've done the PFF mock draft sim several times now. At this point, the guys who keep making it there that interest me most are Harmon, Egbuka, Nolen, and Burden... in that order, I think. I do get some surprise falls now and then like Barron and Walker but those are rare.

I feel like the strategy we should go in with is: "BPA" at 23, WR no later than Round 2 (the options fall off a cliff after the Round 2 guys), ~someone with pass-rush ability before the end of Day 2. Day 3, make value picks.

I would also like to see a smattering of high-upside picks at CB in Day 3, because we don't really need guys to start there, just some depth and developmental pieces. I only draft a CB high if the value is really good, like Barron at 23, Revel or Morrison at 2, etc.

[Foosball]

I was watching Ohio State last year and a player jumped out. A man among boys. I looked him up and it was Tyleik Williams. I’m really hoping the Packers can nab him. I don’t understand why he is not a top 20 pick.

I get it. They say he takes plays off and disappears sometimes but this guy is a monster. I read he was 360lbs as a freshman and got himself into shape at 327lbs. There is no reason not to believe that when he becomes a pro that he’ll up his game again at the next level.

There are not too many times a player jumps off the screen where I want to look up his name by his number.

I guess I can hope.

[Yoop]

I was watching Ohio State last year and a player jumped out. A man among boys. I looked him up and it was Tyleik Williams. I’m really hoping the Packers can nab him. I don’t understand why he is not a top 20 pick.

I get it. They say he takes plays off and disappears sometimes but this guy is a monster. I read he was 360lbs as a freshman and got himself into shape at 327lbs. There is no reason not to believe that when he becomes a pro that he’ll up his game again at the next level.

There are not too many times a player jumps off the screen where I want to look up his name by his number.

I guess I can hope.

Sure there is Foosball, does he love the game? Sure, that's possible, and he will control his weight after becoming a millionaire, or was his goal just to be set for life monetarilly? unfortunately that's hard to predict, often it's the latter, and the food cravings return, and you have a BJ Raji or a Lacy.

He's basically a run stopping NT, and those are available thruout the draft, to me, for us, he's a nonstarter, no interest.

I haven't listened to Andy's podcast, but expect him to say basically the same thing, now watch Andy will be in love with the kid.

[NCF]

I was watching Ohio State last year and a player jumped out. A man among boys. I looked him up and it was Tyleik Williams. I’m really hoping the Packers can nab him. I don’t understand why he is not a top 20 pick.

I get it. They say he takes plays off and disappears sometimes but this guy is a monster. I read he was 360lbs as a freshman and got himself into shape at 327lbs. There is no reason not to believe that when he becomes a pro that he’ll up his game again at the next level.

There are not too many times a player jumps off the screen where I want to look up his name by his number.

I guess I can hope.

A two-year starter at Ohio State, Williams played the three-technique position in former defensive coordinator Jim Knowles’ four-man front. His production won’t jump off the page — he finished 10th in tackles (46) and sixth in sacks (2.5) for the Buckeyes’ national title-winning squad in 2024. But his impact as a dominant run defender is much clearer on the tape.

With his initial quickness, Williams can cross the face of blockers or create knockback with his ability to stack, find the football and detach. Aside from his physical capabilities, he has outstanding awareness to identify pre-snap clues and anticipate play design. Overall, Williams needs further development as a pass rusher, but he is one of the best run-defending linemen in the draft class because of his recognition skills and disciplined execution at deconstructing blocks. He has the type of skill set that will be appreciated by NFL coaches.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/the-be ... dFiPwffWT/

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