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Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2023 07:24
by Yoop
free rushers every game, receivers running wrong routes, when asked to block, they engage prior to Love releasing the ball, how after a whole off season, and 6 games are we still seeing this, I know the buck stops with Lafleur, but Vrabel has to coach these kids up to know ya can't do that, same with Butkus, Myers been here long enough to know his first responsibility is to chip the DT prior to searching for a LBer, we see far to many stupid mistakes from both of these positions, like Douglas said in his presser, youth has become a over used excuse, he's right.
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2023 08:03
by Labrev
Yoop wrote: ↑31 Oct 2023 07:24
I know the buck stops with Lafleur, but Vrabel has to coach these kids up to know ya can't do that, same with Butkus,
LaFleur is the guy who hired them.
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2023 08:19
by Pckfn23
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2023 11:47
by Foosball
Last year Watson had some success on reverses. He even took one to the house. They also keep the defense a little more honest. Didn’t see any.
I’m thinking they should let Love wing it right off the get go. Come out in the 1st quarter slinging it. Let the passing game set up the running game because the other way around ain’t working.
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2023 12:23
by Crazylegs Starks
TJ Slaton film for those who are interested:
https://www.packers.com/news/what-you-m ... preme-2023
GREEN BAY – Minnesota running backs Alexander Mattison and Cam Akers combined for just 50 yards on 25 carries Sunday, exactly 2.0 yards per attempt.
Packers defensive lineman T.J. Slaton was a big reason why, getting credited with a career-best nine total tackles, more than double his previous high (four).
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2023 12:38
by Pckfn23
The only guy you don't throw to here is Doubs.
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2023 12:41
by paco
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2023 12:38
The only guy you don't throw to here is Doubs.
Maybe Love just needs some Rick Vaughn glasses.
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2023 12:46
by Crazylegs Starks
paco wrote: ↑31 Oct 2023 12:41
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2023 12:38
*Tweet*
The only guy you don't throw to here is Doubs.
Maybe Love just needs some Rick Vaughn glasses.
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Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 01 Nov 2023 22:02
by Pckfn23
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 01 Nov 2023 22:13
by Pckfn23
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 02:27
by Pckfn23
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 02:30
by Pckfn23
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 07:06
by APB
I gotta say, in most of those clips, the O-line blocking IS NOT the issue. Even on the sack where Walker whiffed, the edge was chipped by the RB and Love had 3+ sec to get rid of it.
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 07:31
by Yoop
when Love has a 3 count, and the receivers get open Love looks OK, He also is adapting to the poor play of the LT, and Myers pushed back to often, he still seems slow avoiding pressure at times as shown in several vids
this is the best the OL has looked all season imo
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 07:37
by go pak go
APB wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:06
I gotta say, in most of those clips, the O-line blocking IS NOT the issue. Even on the sack where Walker whiffed, the edge was chipped by the RB and Love had 3+ sec to get rid of it.
Yeah. And a lot of those plays he had guys open too.
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Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 07:54
by williewasgreat
APB wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:06
I gotta say, in most of those clips, the O-line blocking IS NOT the issue. Even on the sack where Walker whiffed, the edge was chipped by the RB and Love had 3+ sec to get rid of it.
A few cherry-picked plays does not tell me the OL is not the issue. The OL flat out sucks!
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 07:56
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:37
APB wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:06
I gotta say, in most of those clips, the O-line blocking IS NOT the issue. Even on the sack where Walker whiffed, the edge was chipped by the RB and Love had 3+ sec to get rid of it.
Yeah. And a lot of those plays he had guys open too.
that too, he is slow to trust what he's seeing, but then he's been fooled by his receivers often, like the OL issues, the past is somewhat responsible for the present, once the rushers bang ya around ( he has zero faith that Walker will even make contact with his guy, or that Myers will anchor, wif or fart) the process to block that out takes time, same with these receivers, trust doesn't evolve over night
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Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 08:02
by Yoop
williewasgreat wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:54
APB wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:06
I gotta say, in most of those clips, the O-line blocking IS NOT the issue. Even on the sack where Walker whiffed, the edge was chipped by the RB and Love had 3+ sec to get rid of it.
A few cherry-picked plays does not tell me the OL is not the issue. The OL flat out sucks!
I don't know why that is so hard for some to accept, seems they'd rather think Love isn't the answer, lose every game and start all over, same with all this rebuild talk.
I was impressed with most of Gute's presser, he down played the term rebuild over and over, and that he expects this to eventually right itself, pointing out that some unexpected issues have caused this slow start, and I think thats true, starting with this poor OL play
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Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 09:35
by go pak go
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:56
go pak go wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:37
APB wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:06
I gotta say, in most of those clips, the O-line blocking IS NOT the issue. Even on the sack where Walker whiffed, the edge was chipped by the RB and Love had 3+ sec to get rid of it.
Yeah. And a lot of those plays he had guys open too.
that too, he is slow to trust what he's seeing, but then he's been fooled by his receivers often, like the OL issues, the past is somewhat responsible for the present, once the rushers bang ya around ( he has zero faith that Walker will even make contact with his guy, or that Myers will anchor, wif or fart) the process to block that out takes time, same with these receivers, trust doesn't evolve over night
There are always multiple variables.
But there is also the fact that Love had open receivers and didn't pull the trigger. He needs to pull the trigger. He needs to find the open guys.
Re: Week 8 Post Game: Vikings ∞, Packers 10
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 09:52
by williewasgreat
go pak go wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 09:35
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:56
go pak go wrote: ↑02 Nov 2023 07:37
Yeah. And a lot of those plays he had guys open too.
that too, he is slow to trust what he's seeing, but then he's been fooled by his receivers often, like the OL issues, the past is somewhat responsible for the present, once the rushers bang ya around ( he has zero faith that Walker will even make contact with his guy, or that Myers will anchor, wif or fart) the process to block that out takes time, same with these receivers, trust doesn't evolve over night
There are always multiple variables.
But there is also the fact that Love had open receivers and didn't pull the trigger. He needs to pull the trigger. He needs to find the open guys.
The irony here is that many of us were saying the same thing about Rodgers last year (and before).